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Is depression a sin?
    #23757705 - 10/21/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Is depression a sin?  How about anxiety?  What would Jesus say?

Anxiety is frequently addressed in many books of the Bible.

When we succumb to the temptation of negative, depressing and anxious thoughts, are we going against god's love?


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23757714 - 10/21/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I say thinking like that is not healthy and just going to worsen the situation.  Perhaps poor choices can make anxiety and depression worse.  Although there are no real good choices to reduce anxiety and depression.  Every act seems to make it worse unless it's caused by poor choices.  To call it sin is retardation thinking before thr was science.


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23757734 - 10/21/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not using "sin" as an act that's punishable in Hell, for eternity.

To sin is to go against god's love.

To sin is to go against our own love.


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 2
    #23757758 - 10/21/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

maybe if it is self-initiated on the level of human choice. if it is outside the immediately evident control of conscious agency, then I don't think calling it a sin is useful. to me, a sin is a wrong action/attitude intentionally taken, and I'm not sure if depression is that simple. some may be, but there may be causes outside of conscious agency, at least in a not-too-long-term view of choices and effects. and with the negative connotation that sin has, I think it might be a detrimental approach, but who knows maybe it might motivate some people to improve their habits, if their habits themselves are linked to depression :smile:


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: deff]
    #23757772 - 10/21/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We often think of depression as coming from, as you say, "causes outside of conscious agency"


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23757806 - 10/21/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

by that I mean the human choice-making personality consciousness. there are many levels and aspects to a person that I think may be responsible, even when their human personality level is making otherwise decent choices. that said, I'm certainly no expert on depression :smile:


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23757835 - 10/21/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sin is the idea of acts that push people away from Godliness.  That we were born into animal desires that promote acts that push us away from inner light.

I think it's a stupid idea.  We aren't going to stop being animals.  As long as you eat shit and sleep you are an animal.


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23758062 - 10/21/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Anxiety and depression is pretty much a human antennae going beep beep beep "something is wrong" and "FIX IT".

But scientist and doctors will just prescribe you medicine and say there's something wrong with your brain but in fact, it's the whole society which is the problem. It lives in falsehood and lies and shit doesn't work out and people are confused about who they are and how life is supposed to really be lived hence leading to the anxiety/depression.

When the whole society is living in sin or falsehood than it as a whole is going to deal with all the negative vibes such as anxiety. So you can only imagine on the individual level...


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: Leviticus969] * 1
    #23758390 - 10/21/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes it's a sin because it means you're living through your inferior function

All you have to do to get out of any mental illness is return to dominant function perspective/lifestyle


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    #23758843 - 10/21/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No, feelings aren't sinful in themselves. its your response that counts. You have the opportunity to respond with more negativity, fear and resistance or you have the choice to choose love, faith and acceptance. If you continually make the latter choice, the feelings of depression will start to heal (even though they may get more intense for a while initially). The healing of our souls can sometimes take many years and in that time we may have to do deal with many feeling of depression, anger, sadness, hopelessness, apathy, etc. Its not a sin to let those feelings come up and express themselves.


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23759362 - 10/21/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The hallmarks of depression are fixation on past experiences, attachment to repetitive negative thoughts, and self-loathing.

Just like sins such as lust, greed, and jealousy, might we view depression and anxiety as originating in temptation?

That these temptations could come from an outside source (Satan) would be congruent with the Bible.

I believe this concept of Satan makes a lot of sense. The force that urges us to go against ourselves and God.


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23759384 - 10/21/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

OP, don't be silly.

Depression is a normal thing. The only thing you can really do is move forward.

I still have extreme feelings of guilt when two of my friends were decapitated when a trailer lost a tire in front of them on the highway despite me being thousands of miles away.

There is no shame in holding onto grief so long as you make room for other things.


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Re: Is depression a sin? [Re: IAMNOTALLAMA]
    #23759420 - 10/21/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't say that depression is abnormal.

I don't claim that jealousy or greed is abnormal.


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