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Stranger Registered: 10/23/16 Posts: 146 Last seen: 7 years, 2 months |
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Quote: At the risk of splitting hairs or playing word games here, I think that we basically do this to ourselves, using others. In other words on some level she chose to let herself be changed in that way, in that direction, and if and when she chooses to change that, she'll let some other dude in deep enough and be changed in some new ways. We're FAR more flexible and plastic (neurology-wise) than most humans assume, it's just that most never use that plasticity anywhere near its actual limits. There's a HUGE amount we can change in a relatively short time, using some intent, meditation, psychedelics, and the right people around us, to help "remagnetize" use in a certain direction, as it were. People start or quit smoking, drugs, a certain kind of sex or another, get phobias or fixations, all of this and more can be changed quite thoroughly, the more one understands what's behind the scenes and how the subconscious communicates, what it forms attraction or repulsion to. Quote: Those are completely in-your-head beliefs. The kind of beliefs that generally we prime our RSA for maintaining and confirming, by filtering out contrary evidence, and thus making the beliefs happen. All we know is that people like variety, things change over time. Perfectly possible for people's proclivities to change and remain compatible, or as it were, change together. Get into or out of BDSM at roughly the same time, get into threesomes or swinging or playing with food or ice cubes up wherever, whatever it is. This idea that they have to drift away is I think just that, an idea that you've attached truth value to, maybe invested emotionally in, making it more true for you than it is for others. Never had long or stable relationships to speak of (sometimes I doubt if I've even had an official girlfriend, as opposed to fwb's and crushes and emotional entanglements or adventures) but it just sounds to me like one of those sentences, that seem obvious to whoever says them but are not obvious at all for the rest
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Humble Student Registered: 11/30/11 Posts: 26,088 Loc: Deep in the syst |
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Quote: I have a lot of very close friends in this life, many who have been through, or are still in, relationships of up to 35 years. One of my closest is 72, and another of my inner circle is 52. I am very candid with them about my own experiences in life/relationships, and in turn they are very candid about their own with me. I know a lot of deeply personal details about many other peoples relationships, and I also have a lot of experience gained through my own. On top of that, this is a subject about which I am passionate, and so I read a lot of literature pertaining to this subject, so I also have the experiences of many others whom I do not know personally. And yet you admit you've never had long or stable relationships whilst at the same time accusing me having these 'made up in my head' beliefs. Upon what do you base your assumption? Why would I make up such a belief? After all, life would be better if this was not the case, much as it would be better if most humans were not driven by greed, sex, and fear of death as they are. Or do you think that is in my head too? Unfortunately, it is what it is. You can carry on with the wool pulled over your eyes if you like, but I'll take reality every time; even if I wish it were different, I'll take it for what it is and learn to manage it most effectively without resorting to delusion. -------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Stranger Registered: 10/23/16 Posts: 146 Last seen: 7 years, 2 months |
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Well I think it may have come off a little more aggressive than I meant it. I certainly wasn't "accusing you" of having made up beliefs, as especially with beliefs that aren't to our advantage, these things aren't intentional. We don't sit down one day and concoct these things that then work against ourselves, that's not what I mean.
I see a lot of basically, made-up beliefs that people hold, from mental health diagnostics to patriotism to phobias and who knows what else, and often times there are large numbers of people that hold them in common. Doesn't make them any more useful, nor true for the others who choose not to share them. The fact that you read literature in this direction and share stories with old friends, this only gives you access to their beliefs, their stories, their truth. Makes their particular beliefs and opinions more believable to you. Gives validity. As you probably know, non-trippers have a way of following each other's patterns pretty closely, there's not that much deviation from the herd, the group-think. Also not that much extremely creative thinking when trying to solve life's problems. So the fact that you read a lot on a topic, especially if you read stuff from mainstream non-trippers, would just give you a lot of data for what mainstream people tend to do. What I'm talking about here is that out of the box potential that we have more than others, to go against the norm, to find and do the extraordinary, as our more interesting diet unlocks our minds to new horizons. The fact that you use "wool over eyes" and "delusion" tells me you may be working with a too direct grip on reality, too tight, which leaves not that much place for magic, creative interpretation. You're welcome to do that, certainly safer, but notice that any kind of falling in love, believing in things being magical (between partners) does involve a certain amount of self-delusion if you will, a strong belief that things with this other person, at least CAN be different than they've been before, with everyone else. And in fact while one can safely maintain that "delusion" intact, one can feel it and benefit from it, that in-love biochemistry, floating on clouds, butterflies and rainbows and little hearts flying in the air I'm still perfecting the art of making that last more than a couple of months at a time, but I know it can be done.
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High on Spite Registered: 07/01/05 Posts: 19,067 |
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Most girls I find who say this just want you to mindfuck them a little. Playfully grab their throat or tie their hands with a silk kerchief. Try that and if it doesn't work move on. Once you start taking these things out of the fantasy realm these things get a little sketchy IMO.
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Stranger Registered: 10/23/16 Posts: 146 Last seen: 7 years, 2 months |
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Oh and the ass slapping must be abundant. And just poke her a lot, belly ribs and legs work awesome, just play with this stuff A LOT more than you may naturally be used to, most humans keep the interactions way too verbal way too long.
Get that ass proper slapped to wake her up, to hit those reset buttons in her head, grab that hair historic on the Fury Road on your next fuck session (or love making, whatever you do or call it) and you'll be fine. Unleash the fury on her dude, unleash the fury ![]()
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Humble Student Registered: 11/30/11 Posts: 26,088 Loc: Deep in the syst |
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Although we've only interacted but a handful of times They, I enjoy our conversations. Although there's definitely a point that we've happened across a couple of times now that I feel needs to be looked at more closely. It's this:
Quote: 'We' are not special. Just because you and I, and many others in this community trip regularly, it in no way elevates us to have more 'potential than others'. By the same token, just because someone is a 'non-tripper' it in no way makes them 'mainstream'. I recognise this kind of black and white thinking, because I spent a good portion of my life thinking this way. However life has pushed me quite firmly (read: kicked my ass) into seeing that there are an almost infinite different shades between the ends of the spectrum. At the same time, I am in no way disputing that the majority of people who live in western cultural society are deeply programmed and conditioned to conform to a specific model of thinking and behavioural patterns, and that model is often quite spiritually and emotionally unevolved. I have seen friends stand on the brink of breaking out of it, and then fall back into conformity. And I can understand why - to break out of it is a hard path to walk, and leaves you vulnerable to ridicule by those still locked into it. Unfortunately I have had to leave those friends at the wayside of my own path, but by staying true to my path life has in turn brought people into my sphere who have helped me to progress. There are a lot of people out there who have tripped and remained 'mainstream' and a lot of people who have never tripped and are the antithesis of mainstream. I do not associate with mainstream people, nor do I read mainstream media, so lets please drop this assumption that my beliefs and experiences are at all inspired by that way of (group) thinking. That point aside, I want to bring up the point that got us this far, which was: Quote: I suspect, from what I've seen you say, that you know that the only constant in this life is change. Obviously that doesn't stop just because someone is in a relationship - both partners continue to change throughout. In order to maintain said relationship, compromises must be made by both partners to mitigate these changes. And when it comes to sexuality, you've got the added complication that brain chemistry (i.e hormones) changing over time play a huge role, and between men and women, and these changes do not inspire long term perfect sexual compatibility. There may be exceptions to this general rule, but when talking biology, exceptions to a rule are rare. I suppose that I should clarify that I was, for the most part, referring to 'drive', rather than 'taste' in the statement you quoted. Quote: Boy did you ever get me wrong there man!! I know full well how a relationship can change you. Before I fell in love with the long term friend that was eventually to become my wife, I was a die hard atheist, and I had no idea what true love really was, even though I had had many short and long term relationships before that time. I went through two years of highs that I never imagined were even possible; magic, synchronicity, the way everything seemed to just perfectly fall into place with every step we took together. Just one example would be the fact that after we got married in the cheapest and most simple way possible, we walked out of the registry office to see a rainbow in the sky - and rainbows were her favourite things in the world: You couldn't pay for that, even though some spend £15,000 on their day and it all goes wrong (boy have a I seen that a few times), we paid £150 and did it on a whim, and it went more perfectly than I could ever imagine. It remains to this day the most perfect day in my life. But then I went through two years of hell as everything we'd built collapsed, she fell into depression, alcoholism and became a shell of her former self, and I lost everything - her, my house, my dog, my dream - after a string of suicide attempts that ended up with her in rehab. I went through a solid year of suffering after that, culminating in me hitting rock bottom. Now that I'm back out the other side, healed, stronger and wiser for the experience, I can see what she came into my life for - to show me that there is a higher force in this life (my agnostic version of 'god'), and to show me what unconditional love really is. And it's practically the opposite of what the 'mainstream' view of love is, IMO. A DMT trip just a couple of weeks ago showed me that in fact it was not her that I married - it was life - she was just an avatar that represented the deepest aspects of this existence that I had formerly rejected. A day after that trip I added a new tattoo to my collection: 'My wife is life'. She will never again be with me on my path, and I have had to face the fact that I must now walk my path alone for some time, possibly forever, for in seeking relationships, as I have for most of my existence, I never found anything that inspired such immense personal growth. The only thing I seek now is connection with 'god/the divine', and perhaps that will come again through another, perhaps not. Yes, one can maintain any delusion, the ego is the master at this. And because it is so painful to break free from delusion, many never do. But as we both know, attachment to delusion is suffering. Better to go through the deep, sharp growing pains of breaking free than to live in low level suffering IMO. -------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Humble Student Registered: 11/30/11 Posts: 26,088 Loc: Deep in the syst |
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Quote: Gotta say MRM, I highly disagree with this. Anyone who is specific enough to say: Quote: Obviously knows what they like. For some, this is a lifestyle. There's nothing sketchy about that IMO; there's clearly a massive number of people out there in the world that enjoy this very much. The number of clubs in London alone that cater to this kinda thing validate this IMO. -------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Stranger Registered: 10/23/16 Posts: 146 Last seen: 7 years, 2 months |
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Ok, I have read your post and I feel deep resonance with it. I know we'll be talking quite a few matters from now on. As Alan Watts says, when two thieves meet, they recognize each other instantly, they need no introduction
![]() Quote: This is a point where I will not give in to you, to the bitter end. I my friend, am a wizard. A magical creature. I make it my trade and my art to know and practice the ways of the wizard, the high body voltage, and these are ways that all humans can practice, but here's the kicker, NOT EVERYONE DOES. I have just a few years under my belt, quite few since my awakening in this particular lifetime, I can tell you're older physically than I am, and so have seen more mileage to draw experience from. What I am saying is that throughout my long chain of incarnations I've developed my wizard craft, being high voltage, eating and drinking and avoiding the right things to maintain this, and now I'm here to spread this way of life, to whoever wants to explore and express it. When you two fell in love and chose each other, when you chose rainbow, you chose high voltage and expressed it. When two years later (or she, more accurately) chose alcohol and depression, she chose to self-inhibit. To lower her own body voltage in order to not express things inside of her (aggression, resentment, whatever) that she felt you would not be able to handle, that you need protection from. That's what alcohol and cigarettes do, that's why you'll see some of my posts trigger smokers, drinkers, addicts, general low voltage people, into either shaping up and cleansing, matching this energy, or on the contrary, getting aggressive over it, because they feel the contrast, they feel that I release and express more fully, what they politely suppress or deny, even to themselves. There is only one choice we make in this life, with its endless variations. We choose truth, expression, high voltage, free expression of our feelings good or bad, OR we can choose suppression, being polite, denying ourselves, drinking alcohol, smoking cigs or distracting with electronic means (TV computer smartphone, or porn video games gambling) or food, sugary fat foods, to trigger that dopamine. There is a difference between people. All DO have the potential to raise their EM field, their body voltage and thus consciousness, like the Buddha or Jesus did, and many other teachers. The potential we all have, and all decent teachers said this point. But the actual using of it, the actual avoiding of EM field decreasers and disruptors, the actual expression of what's inside, including anger, hatred, crying, breaking down, that's not something we all do, or not all the time. And when we don't, we fall. We fall from our own grace, from our relationships and so on. I'll leave you with one bit of my electro-magic, though there's WAY more to say. What I am saying here is that the warping of reality via stories, interpretations, magical thinking, becomes MUCH stronger at high voltage than at low. You get MUCH earlier warning about what helps or hinders you. You and your wife had something magical. In my terms there's a strong electrical component to it. Electricity flows through the body if it's well hydrated and mineralized. Both alcohol and cigs dehydrate the body. When either you or her played with alcohol, you may not have consciously known it, but you were playing with your relationship, slowly, gradually eroding it. If she did that alone it was on you to know and warn her (and had you tripped enough together and looked at drunk people while you're tripping, it would have been so obvious) but yeah, people choose the norm sometimes, do as others do, although the others may not be so good as teachers to learn from. All you've mentioned, depression, alcoholism, are simply ways to lower body voltage, to not express emotions. Longer post for another thread, start it if you wish, or just keep eyes peeled for my other posts, as this is what I will always post about. Keeping that EM field strong is where the vibrancy of life flows from. If we maintain it, it maintains us. If we sell it down the river, its compromised integrity will sell us down the river as well. Boy this is turning out to be an interesting day here ![]() Oh and as for the sex stuff and changes mentioned above, I would say that simply following intuition from within, will always lead us towards maintaining maximum voltage, meaning maximum drive, joy, vibrancy. In couples this may well involve periodic breaks, or bringing new people in, or something of the sort, but it's this game of getting lost in the head and thus losing drive, versus getting back out here and getting it back. I know that with age, the making of body voltage slows down, and so we need to charge and recharge more, to sustain the same amount of activity as we did when younger. As most modern humans are used to do a lot of eyes-open bla-bla all the time, and not much eyes-closed charge-up (meditation, rest) - coupled with the dehydrating crap they may eat or drink, and the electric insulators they wear on their feet all year, this all reduces drive tremendously, compared to what it could be. Humans do not understand a lot of these issues in modern times, they simply don't see the links and correlations, at least not like we trippers do. I too have seen trippers who are stuck in mainstream. But for me, it was always tripper smokers, tripper drinkers, the tripping takes their EM field and body voltage high, where they can see, but then immediately they smoke, drink or otherwise deplete that energy, to unwittingly make themselves dumb again. You believe yourself common if you wish. I know I did. It was only when I started to know myself as non-human, apart from what they do, that I started to be able to use energy much more effectively. Finding (or making, triggering) the others like myself is a much more challenging game than simply finding some decent human female, but this is the game we all play, whatever species we incarnate in. Can you find the others like you, in a jungle of competing signals
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High on Spite Registered: 07/01/05 Posts: 19,067 |
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Quote: yeah totally nothing sketchy about rape play if it's all in good fun.
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ChemChaplin Registered: 09/24/08 Posts: 7,659 Last seen: 4 years, 14 days |
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Quote: I think I would be a good dom just cause I don't really enjoy it at all so I could be all scientific about it. I find that whole "leash" idea super unappealing, like possibly the most unappealing thing ever. I find that when Im really into shit I stop using restraint, I've always felt like this type of play was dangerous for that reason. I've heard people who really get into it actually rely on the dom to be the one in control, like not taking things too far -------------------- A cautious young fellow named Lodge / Had seat belts installed in his Dodge. / When his date was strapped in / He committed a sin / Without even leaving the garage. That's clever, isn't it?-A boy and his dog
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yeah totally nothing sketchy about rape play if it's all in good fun.

