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Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water
    #23757295 - 10/21/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey so I'm a total noob here. Recently picked up my first kit to grow some cubensis for medicinal purposes. Long story short I'm on a real real tight budget and this kit explicitly stated that the casing soil had to be either:

A: Microwaved if moistened with tap water
or
B: Moistened with distilled water, however, baking the soil in the over before hand, was reccomended

So I have a couple questions here.

I didn't use distilled water. I couldn't afford it and I don't have an oven... and I didn't want to microwave soil, with a potentially poisonous chemical, thus aerosolizing it, in my apartment

What gets me is this soil had lime in it. The instruction booklet says theres lime in the soil. I know that lime is poisonous?

So what I'm asking here is are these things going to be safe to eat when they grow? Would the distilled water some how... do this?

As far as I know, Mushrooms are not like plants and do not absorb... things, from their surroundings, like the root system in a plant.

I'm thinkin the distilled water was more likely to do with helping to keep contams down? That aside. Is the lime soil fine?

EDIT: I should also add that this kit came as an already grown spawn and included a substrate to transfer the spawn to. After which the kit explained to cover the now mycelium grown substrate, in this casing layer.

Thanks in advance for responses!


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: Kandicaine]
    #23757312 - 10/21/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you are short on funds a kit was probably not the best choice.


Just don't eat the soil and you will be fine.


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23757347 - 10/21/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

mushrooms absorb things.

hydrated lime can make you sick. regular limestone not so much.

when i see those kits on here, its usually verm that comes with it for the casing, or sometimes its just fruited as is in a bag.

moisten it with tap, bake it in oven at 200 for an hour??


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23757404 - 10/21/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok. Thanks.

Also yes I know the kit was a bit of an irresponsible purchase but Ive been going through some severe mental health issues the last 6 months and have finally decided to take matters into my own hands after being unable to find any help what so ever, so getting a kit to start trying micro dosing was of the utmost importance - I was just completely unaware of how complex growing a mushroom was and prior to purchase the kit did not explain this on their web site


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: Kandicaine]
    #23757405 - 10/21/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ive already applied the casing layer.

Would the heat have done something to the lime to make it non toxic or something? or is that just to reduce chances of contam?

@The Mycologist

"Please note: the soil and straw bags have lime added so you may see a grey powder in the bag - this is normal- is what it says on the instructions for the kit


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: Kandicaine]
    #23757487 - 10/21/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: amidogen]
    #23757522 - 10/21/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Remove the link to the vendor from your post. If they sold you spawn then I gather it's legal to cultivate in your country, but putting vendor names in threads is against the rules here regardless of legal status in the OP's country.

Make better cultivation choices next time. Also, please be careful. I know you're planning to microdose but when you say "shrooms" and "severe mental health issues" alarm bells start ringing. I know from experience that conventional psychiatry is fucked and hardly ever helpful, but you should also play it safe on your own. Have someone around to keep an eye on you. I hope you find what you're looking for :thumbup:




I have removed the link from the post. Thanks for the heads up.

I'm some what experienced with psychedelics and micro dosing is something I've wanted to try for years. I seem to respond very well to psychedelics, even in situations and at dosages that would normally cause really bad trips for other people.

Next time around I am definitely going to be more prepared to do this... as far as I was aware, prior to buying this kit, growing a mushroom was the same as growing a plant. Turns out they're nothing alike hahaha.


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: Kandicaine]
    #23757540 - 10/21/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: Kandicaine]
    #23757713 - 10/21/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Kandicaine said:
Ok. Thanks.

Also yes I know the kit was a bit of an irresponsible purchase but Ive been going through some severe mental health issues the last 6 months and have finally decided to take matters into my own hands after being unable to find any help what so ever, so getting a kit to start trying micro dosing was of the utmost importance - I was just completely unaware of how complex growing a mushroom was and prior to purchase the kit did not explain this on their web site





Well good for you OP. I don't personally micro dose but others have a lot of success with it. Once you are done with this grow I encourage you to look into PF tek as a way to grow more economically/successfully. The cool thing about growing yourself is that once you have the supplies all you really need to do is replace the affordable stuff that runs out. Good luck and if you ever need to talk something out the Shroomery is here for you.


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23757864 - 10/21/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Mycologist said:
If you are short on funds a kit was probably not the best choice.




Kits can be cheaper. I know where I live if I only had X euro I could have bought a kit but not all the bits most people would otherwise recommend. This is since perlite & verm are only available to me in larger bags and they are not cheap. Of course this means I have huge left over amounts for loads most grows. But if I was on a "real real tight budget" I might only be able to afford a kit with current money, even if other materials would be cheaper in the long run.

Some people might never have tripped before and so not even know if they will like it, let alone know if they will continue to grow.

I am amazed at some of the low prices for stuff in the US.


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: blackout]
    #23757895 - 10/21/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If the kit is successful. Kits have pretty bad success rates right? What I should have said is, You get the most bang for your buck if you diy.


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23758110 - 10/21/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If the kit is successful. Kits have pretty bad success rates right?



hard to tell, it might be more likely people come on here when they have problems, it would be interesting to see success rates of kits vs newbies trying to grow for the first time. I have seen lots of decent grows from kits, I would presume they at least have a carefully selected culture growing in them. They can get damaged in the post but people are presuming people are having them posted. I used to be able to buy them in a shop, many still can in some places.

There are many types of kits too. Some are very overpriced with heating mats and other stuff you probably do not need.

I see one of the EU sponsors has a kit with is 25euro and comes with a syringe, and small amounts of verm, BRF, filtered half pint jars, autoclave bag, face mask. I think that is not too bad, I would have to travel all over the place to pick all those bits up, and would be forced into buying large amounts. Some might not have tripped as I said, there was a recent poster who only has a trip or 2 per year, I know many people like that.

A good cheap option which should have a good success rate for beginners would be cloning commercial sclerotia.

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What I should have said is, You get the most bang for your buck if you diy.


yep, definitely if you are in for the long haul.


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Re: Mushroom Kit, Lime, Casing and Distilled Water [Re: blackout]
    #23758164 - 10/21/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I feel ya. A lot of confirmation bias with kits I'm sure. All we hear from kit users are the problems. A person could always use their supplies to grow edibles if they do not need a large amount of psych shrooms.


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