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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23756892 - 10/21/16 03:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
Because of my recent fascination with the human mind, and because I want to relate to as many people as possible in my attempts to understand people and how we think and behave, i will no longer discuss politics.

It is simple.  If 90% of the human mind is undergoing subconscious processing, and conscious is just a reflection of the subconscious decision making process, then I believe that choice is limited in people, therefore, there cannot truly be freewill.

Let's take an example:  people's choices are made, and solutions given, by a fixed and expanding set of references i.e. experience. While it may be possible to expand the experience set to 'open the mind' to new viewpoints, the older, fixed experiences seem to influence the subconscious, thus the conscious, decision making more.

A political example:  the debates:  Because each person already came with their preconceived ideas of the other, and their fixed experiences, and the MANIPULATION that has been applied to their thought process by political ads, etc, then they see what they want to see in say, a debate.

Therfore, I would rather not ever discuss politics again, because it leads to bad feelings between people, and I would rather have good feelings; that is, i can agree to disagree since I would rather have open and friendly discourse with others concerning the workings of the mind.

Other topics are open, of course, for rational discussion.  But i have come to the conclusion that emotions rule the minds of most humans, especially in politics.

So, I am apolitical at this point.  I have no opinion. :smug:





Good. Im so sick of seeing brilliant shroomerites waste time on politics. This is the shroomery last time i checked. I want the veterans to speak on drugs the mind and consciousness


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23756896 - 10/21/16 03:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:

Good. Im so sick of seeing brilliant shroomerites waste time on politics. This is the shroomery last time i checked. I want the veterans to speak on drugs the mind and consciousness




I was thinking the other day that political discourse was just like watching television; time wasted that I could be improving my mind with a good book or higher level topics than politics. It doesn't mean I don't have AN opinion on politics; it is just that i won't share my opinions or question others anymore.


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23756903 - 10/21/16 03:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:

Good. Im so sick of seeing brilliant shroomerites waste time on politics. This is the shroomery last time i checked. I want the veterans to speak on drugs the mind and consciousness




I was thinking the other day that political discourse was just like watching television; time wasted that I could be improving my mind with a good book or higher level topics than politics. It doesn't mean I don't have AN opinion on politics; it is just that i won't share my opinions or question others anymore.





I thought id never see the day.

I want to hear trip reports from you guys.

I feel like the shroomery elders feel they are above the psychedelic experience which saddens me because thats what i live for..other than my family of course


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23756906 - 10/21/16 03:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

this is all that happened: one day they were all for the psychedelic experience...then one day they weren't...then sometime after they get into Neuro-Linguistic Programming.

tit for tat.


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23756910 - 10/21/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I just had my first mescaline trip since I was cured of HCV; I tripped last week.  Suddenly, my existence changed.


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23756916 - 10/21/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
I just had my first mescaline trip since I was cured of HCV; I tripped last week.  Suddenly, my existence changed.




Congrats on being cured of hep.

Mesc is probably my fave psych, Ive smoked dmt a handful of times but didn't break through so maybe that would be cool, but I love that mellow mesc feeling where you're tripping really hard, yet calm as can be.


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Lucis]
    #23756921 - 10/21/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I was born with hep c..25 years deep with it. It really drains my energy. Im tired all the time


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Lucis]
    #23756924 - 10/21/16 03:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Fennario said:
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starfire_xes said:
I just had my first mescaline trip since I was cured of HCV; I tripped last week.  Suddenly, my existence changed.




Congrats on being cured of hep.

Mesc is probably my fave psych, Ive smoked dmt a handful of times but didn't break through so maybe that would be cool, but I love that mellow mesc feeling where you're tripping really hard, yet calm as can be.





I just wish it didnt cause all that nausea

But it was 500mg of mescaline HCL that made me change my username to bill oreilly.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23756929 - 10/21/16 03:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
I was born with hep c..25 years deep with it. It really drains my energy. Im tired all the time





It fucks your head up too, did you know that?  There are cures now, getting cheaper.  If you are so bad you are drained all the time--and I KNOW what that feeling is--you should get the cure.

The tired feeling, sometimes, all you want to do is roll over and go to sleep. If you do get out of bed, you might feel great for an hour; suddenly, like a thunderstorm coming out of a clear blue sky, you feel depressed and want to go sleep.

Sometimes you don't want to move, or think, or do anything because you are so tired.  So you just lay, or sit, and daydream.

When its really bad, you will begin to wish that you could just get it over with and not be miserable anymore.

Am I right?


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23756936 - 10/21/16 04:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
I was born with hep c..25 years deep with it. It really drains my energy. Im tired all the time





It fucks your head up too, did you know that?  There are cures now, getting cheaper.  If you are so bad you are drained all the time--and I KNOW what that feeling is--you should get the cure.

The tired feeling, sometimes, all you want to do is roll over and go to sleep. If you do get out of bed, you might feel great for an hour; suddenly, like a thunderstorm coming out of a clear blue sky, you feel depressed and want to go sleep.

Sometimes you don't want to move, or think, or do anything because you are so tired.  So you just lay, or sit, and daydream.

When its really bad, you will begin to wish that you could just get it over with and not be miserable anymore.

Am I right?





Youre right but i often pretend i dont have it. I try not to dwell on it. Im on the mrthadone clinic so im forced to wake up every morning to go get my dose which helps. I always burn out around 4 oclock even if i do absolutely nothing all day. Its like walking around with a cinderblock on your back.

I dont notice any change in my mental state from it but it could be fucking it up..like i said i dont like blaming my hep c for things even though deep down i know its the problem.

Nobody believes me anout the energy loss and i always am told to get a job or go to school but no matter how much i tell people my hep c wont allow it the more people just call me lazy and useless. I don't even wanna have sex or do anything i am so tired. Forget working out or playing basketball..i have no motivation for anything

I was on interferon and almost had it cured until i relapsed and got infected again. Im waiting to get on the new medicine but my health insurance wont cover me yet


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23756962 - 10/21/16 04:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

posting hi-res images of politicians ought to be bannable


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23756965 - 10/21/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
Quote:

starfire_xes said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:
I was born with hep c..25 years deep with it. It really drains my energy. Im tired all the time





It fucks your head up too, did you know that?  There are cures now, getting cheaper.  If you are so bad you are drained all the time--and I KNOW what that feeling is--you should get the cure.

The tired feeling, sometimes, all you want to do is roll over and go to sleep. If you do get out of bed, you might feel great for an hour; suddenly, like a thunderstorm coming out of a clear blue sky, you feel depressed and want to go sleep.

Sometimes you don't want to move, or think, or do anything because you are so tired.  So you just lay, or sit, and daydream.

When its really bad, you will begin to wish that you could just get it over with and not be miserable anymore.

Am I right?





Youre right but i often pretend i dont have it. I try not to dwell on it. Im on the mrthadone clinic so im forced to wake up every morning to go get my dose which helps. I always burn out around 4 oclock even if i do absolutely nothing all day. Its like walking around with a cinderblock on your back.

I dont notice any change in my mental state from it but it could be fucking it up..like i said i dont like blaming my hep c for things even though deep down i know its the problem.

Nobody believes me anout the energy loss and i always am told to get a job or go to school but no matter how much i tell people my hep c wont allow it the more people just call me lazy and useless. I don't even wanna have sex or do anything i am so tired. Forget working out or playing basketball..i have no motivation for anything

I was on interferon and almost had it cured until i relapsed and got infected again. Im waiting to get on the new medicine but my health insurance wont cover me yet




"That which does not kill us makes us stronger"--Fredrick Nietzsche

I actually believe that after surviving HCV.  I wish you well.


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23756985 - 10/21/16 04:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:



I just wish it didnt cause all that nausea







I never get nausea from it, I lay down after consuming and listen to music until it kicks in, without moving much you won't get nausea, also eat a little bit of crystallized ginger after consumption for help with stomach issues.

My silly theory is this, I supposedly have some American Indian blood in me, so think that's why I don't have negative reactions to certain substances, and don't consume alcohol because I know I would have a problem with it like many American Indians have had. 

I know Indians in the South West USA, Central/South American that would consume certain cacti would be known for having strong stomachs for the stuff, so that's why I think my little theory about whey mesc doesn't bother my stomach.

I have been told I am 1/4th Cherokee, but don't know if that's accurate.


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Re: I will no longer discuss politics. (The Human Mind Thread 2) [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23756997 - 10/21/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Fennario said:
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starfire_xes said:
I just had my first mescaline trip since I was cured of HCV; I tripped last week.  Suddenly, my existence changed.




Congrats on being cured of hep.

Mesc is probably my fave psych, Ive smoked dmt a handful of times but didn't break through so maybe that would be cool, but I love that mellow mesc feeling where you're tripping really hard, yet calm as can be.





I just wish it didnt cause all that nausea



You poor bastards. Mescal is one of the few psyche's that DOESN'T cause me nausea, thank fuck - I take it quite frequently, as it's my absolute fav too.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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