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Marty Mycfly
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Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow 2
#23756102 - 10/20/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whatsup guys I have been working on getting my winter grow set up, I'm starting it off with Reishi. The goal is to grow the brunt of them invitro on 4 lb. supplemented blocks in XL grow bags. I have 100 of the XL bags, I will grow the rest in medium grow bags but will be conking them in the grow room(which I am redesigning for the reishi) , and I am also planning on taking some these old monotunbs I have and filling those up.
To start, I got a plate in trade from MyColorado, thanks dude , and also a wedge from Greg, thanks dude from his give away. I started a bunch of plates from Mycolorado's plate, and also started some plates from the wedge, the culture from MyColorado is being used for the first couple of batches and will then be putting Gregs culture into the mix.

For spawn I'm using feed store milo, I started 6 6 lb. spawn bags using Liquid Innoculant I prepared with a mason jar and oster blender blade attachment, I blended 2 plates with 600 ml of water and inoculated the bags. They are all finished colonizing on the 11'th day.




I also started 21 master jars from wedges a few days after starting the bags. These will be used for both expanding and inoculating.



I started getting sawdust bags ready last night, I am using wood pellets that are a mix of hardwoods, maple, cherry, apple and hickory, they are grilling pellets which are usually more expensive but I scored them super cheap. Here is the bag label and the XL grow bags Im using

I am supplementing at 15% with wheat bran and also adding gypsum, The bags are 4 lb.s each.

Got the first batch of them inoculated this evening, I started these off with a heavy spawn ratio, almost 1 lb. per bag, the rest will be lower than that I just wanted to compare a heavier spawn rate with the rest. Well I have a bunch of work to do here for the next few days!

Anyways, thanks for reading and following along, like I said I am going to try a few different methods here and re design my grow room which I will update and post pics of tomorrow. Like always any advice, wisdom or conversation would be awesome
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Fast Forward 3/26/17
Here are some finished products from the grow








Edited by Marty Mycfly (03/26/17 02:36 AM)
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You've been busy. Just wanted to let you know that MyColorado and Greg's culture are the same. Greg posted a pic from the eBay seller. I got mine from the same seller. MyColorado got his culture from me. Small world . Just in case you might be looking for differences, thought you should know.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
#23756368 - 10/20/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ha, thanks for the heads up on that! That is so funny and cool how it comes back around like that. Hey quad, I'm planning on making some monotubs with it in a few days, do you have any certain recipe and technique?
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Interesting grow method Did you make sure to add a bit of extra water content? I typically aim for 55-60% but with reishi bags its more like 60-65%. You want the extra moisture since the bags will lose almost 1/3 there weight over the next 3 months. One thing i found with reishi is you can spawn super thin. I want to say my big batch of15 bags was done with just 1-2 quarts (about 1.7 lbs) of spawn and i still got amazing results. Good luck! Hopefully those are good cultures.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23756445 - 10/20/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude, totally should have mentioned a la Gr0wer's technique I did add extra, exactly because of you saying that, may have been a little too much, we will see. I plan on stretching the rest of my spawn thin on this, I am going to try some tubs of them un supplemented with hot water, and some bags that Im going to slit and fruit in the grow room. This just a fun project for myself, I have most of the materials already and wont be starting oysters again for a little while. I'm moving my oyster growing to a friends shop, I'm just so fucking allergic to oyster spores that I cant grow them here anymore, I'm making spawn and blocks and he's going to fruit them.
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If your results are like mine, and you make tinctures. You will be supplied for the next 50 years with tinctures lol. I need to find an outlet with all my dried fruits before they go to shit. At least i got em dried and vac sealed.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23756716 - 10/21/16 01:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is one big appealing thing about growing Reishi, being able to dry and store them, and I definitely plan on making tinctures for us and friends and "hopefully" see how they do at the market when I get the oysters back out.
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Awesome! I was stoked when quadman posted a pic of his reishi. Definitely a good line. Keep us posted...I was gonna run them in bags as well so curious as to your results.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23760417 - 10/22/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry forgot you asked about the monos. Didn't do anything special. I used 21 qt mini tub with no holes. Hardwood fuel pellets layered in couple qts of spawn. Slapped lid on let grow, no holes , plenty of light, this time of year here keep warm. Just started 2 more put 4 qts spawn per container because of Pasty's grow.
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Marty Mycfly said: I started getting sawdust bags ready last night, I am using wood pellets that are a mix of hardwoods, maple, cherry, apple and hickory, they are grilling pellets which are usually more expensive but I scored them super cheap.
Amazing wood mixture Marty, really nice.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23762030 - 10/22/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks guys. I will keep this updated as I go along, I'm inoculating more bags tonight, and the ones I already did are zooming along.
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Hey I want to ask you all your opinion on these spawn bags, they seem to be fruiting, they have only been 100% colonized for 3 days, I last night I used 2 bags from the same batch and they werent fruiting, and I went to use one tonight and discovered what appears to be antlers starting to grow.
One thing, I read in GGMM that the only grain reishi will fruit from is milo, I dont know how true that is about it being the only grain but it deffinately looks like it is tripping over itself to fruit. Let me know what you guys think and why it would be fruiting from spawn and so quickly. Also when I broke one up it had created a pretty dense layer of myc covering the spawn.
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Looks like a good strain! I wouldn't have any doubts about using that spawn with those little clumps.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23763121 - 10/23/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was reading your thread on invitro reishi observations and you said the higher temp the quicker they fruited, well I think maybe that's why that spawn started fruiting right away, my lab has been super hot bringing in sub and keeping the hood on over the past few days and my bags and spawn are incubating in there as well. It's probably been well in the mid to high 80's in there the past few days, maybe it's like a "heat shock" that induced the spawn to pin.
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Just noticed this thread.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Greg]
#23763624 - 10/23/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey MM, here it is on the left overs of a g2g done 11 days ago. I held onto it to see what it would do. It's rye, so I think it just fruits readily.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23764598 - 10/23/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome What did you put that spawn on?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23764711 - 10/23/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Feel free to post anything about it here, we are growing the same culture which is pretty cool, Quad said greg is growing the same one too. I look forward to seeing your thread. Oh, and the thing about Stamets saying Reishi would only fruit off of milo, I think that dude jumped the gun a lot when he thought he discovered something, obviously it must be a strain related thing. He also states that growth falls if you supplement beyond 15% and recommends 5-10%, but Gr0wer is one person I know that grows these on 20% and has GREAT success. I shot for 15% for this first batch(50 bags), which I will post some pictures of up later, they took off like a bat out of hell, but I think I may run into some issues with moisture, I was shooting for a bit of extra water and I think I really overdid it, I don't know how these do with a ton of excess water but I know when I have had extra wet oyster bags they get pretty funky.
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Cool. Well, I just used my standard oyster sub recipe which uses walnut and fruit tree sawdust. I came up short on bran but was planning on cutting it back from the normal 20%...so these are around 15.5% bran with 4% gyp. I just mixed the dry ingredients, loaded bags with around 11 oz each, added a pound of boiling water to each , massaged, folded over and left to "pasteurize" and cool. Each will receive a half quart of rye spawn. Never done it like this...kinda winging it to see how it turns out.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23765052 - 10/23/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome! We basically have the same sub, I supplemented at 15% as well, though my wood mix is different. I am super interested to see how well yours do with the boiling water, I have been PC'ng for days. I am doing 4 lb bags and have been able to put 8 into my 941 and 4 in my 921, I have been doing two runs of that a day and it's a pain in the ass. I am almost done building Gr0wers steamer, I just need to get a tap and few more small things.
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Ha...I was just looking back over this thread and saw I did pretty much the same as you. Yeah man, I hate PCing bags...I have a 17qt...Can only do two 4.5 lb bags at a time. I'm pretty puritanical when it comes to pasteurization and sterilization so this type of thing leaves me a bit apprehensive. Fingers crossed.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23765453 - 10/23/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm hoping to get the rest of the parts for that steamer in the next few days, I meant to have it finished by this run but just didn't, and I just checked my next batch of spawn and it's gonna be ready in a few days, if I don't get it built I'm going your route there with the boiling water, also I'm gonna whip up some of those monotubs, I assume that would just be prepping the pellets in a bucket or something.
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Yes reishi love the heat. Keep em above 80 if you want fast reults. Still going to take 2-3 months but the higher temp might knock a week or two off.
I was just thinking about how to optimize a invitro reishi grow. One of the things i loved about this grow is you dont need any environmental controls. In hindsight, putting them into a chamber thats heated and with a high RH would reduce evaporation through the filter patches, boosting mostire content for those last few weeks and im sure increaing yeild.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23765787 - 10/24/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So, I have a bunch of bags made, some have been made for a couple days and are looking good, a little wet, but good.


Some of the first bags to get inoculated 3 days ago, these particular bags had a high spawn ratio o they are colonizing pretty fast, about 1 quart each. These are the ones that I think I overdid the extra water.




These ones I feel I got the water pretty close, and all of the rest of the bags have about a 1/2 quart of spawn. I'm going to go a little lower with spawn on the next bags and stretch out a bit more.

Just shook my second batch of spawn bags and master jars last night, I will start making bags again in a few days.
Edited by Marty Mycfly (10/24/16 12:54 AM)
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Alright another update, my first batch of bags that I think were too wet are looking funky, they are just full of water and pissing all over Anyways hopefully the rest of the bags I made after those do better, though a huge issue is just the condensation, it's crazy due to the temp fluctuations in my lab, I'm about to move them all out to my shop tonight so that will fix that problem. Here are some pics, tell me if you guys think these ones pissing are going to do okay.







And here are the bags that were more on the dryer side, they just have a ton of condensation


Are these looking too funky?
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I'd say so long as it doesn't mold ur fine
Looks like lots of metabolites but that doesn't mean contam. It means the body of mycelium is doing its job
I recall greg reishi totes having a fair bit of the same type of activity if I'm not mistaken?
I'm starting a reishi grow just now. Making my jars soon
I'm glad I read this and gregs thread before hand
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
#23779607 - 10/28/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If memory serves, reishi are notorious pissers. Pretty sure I've read about bags being half full of red piss by the end of the grow....
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
#23779608 - 10/28/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its because its wood, wood resins and oils, i.e. theres more waste material in wood. And I am yet to see a reishi grow that does not make metabolites on wood.
And this is the reason I find it difficult with reishi images.
Sorry Marty, I have no idea if thats bacteria.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23779624 - 10/28/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bacteria always shows itself given time doesn't it?
I imagine if it's bacteria u will see it in your pinset.
Bacteria to my knowledge doesn't ever remain underlying and hidden. It always shows its nasty self sooner or later
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
#23780234 - 10/28/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply's guys Those bags actually look way better now, the extra water and piss kind of has just been getting eaten up by myc and is making more of a brownish color around the sides of the bags that look like fruiting. After I posted this I dived into images of reishi blocks and mine are definitely looking normal, I did read some people saying they would pour the extra water out of their bags once the block was fully colonized, I don't think I will do that because it looks like the blocks are actually using that extra water. And another note, I thought the condensation was a mix of extra water and temperature fluctuation, but it seems from reading around that this is normal with reishi myc. I will post an update later, thanks guys
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Alright guys, I have an update and some observations.
First off, the bags filling up with piss stopped, and the puddles turned into mass and then what seems like fruit body, they look pretty good to me. The tops of the blocks are blobbing up good too, I couldn't get a good picture with all the condensation though, maybe in a few days.
 Those are from the first 20 bags I did with a high spawn ratio, around 1 full quart, these bags colonized way faster than the rest, they colonize fully in about 4 days and the rest of the bags had a 1/2 quart of spawn and are taking about 7 days. I am pretty filled up with reishi bags, I planned on just filling up my wire shelf, but I went a little overboard.
 Luckily my master spawn started fruiting like crazy before I could use it. so I will hang up my hat for a minute and fruit the spawn out of those jars.
 I'm using a bag of spawn today that is super chunky after breaking it up, this culture creates a really thick mat on the outside of the spawn and it was starting to fruit too. Anyways, I'm inoculating some more bags with it today and that will be it for this run.
Edited by Marty Mycfly (10/30/16 04:53 PM)
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23786266 - 10/30/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sweet! Beautiful set up by the way!  Looking forward to seeing where this is going...
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23786295 - 10/30/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks guys!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23786362 - 10/30/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good MM; you're gonna have a pile of reishi! My bags are a couple days behind yours and appear to be following the same path. I did notice a nasty in one of the bags...like I said, I wasn't too keen on the boiling water tek with bran. Not that there's any correlation but I typically dont get contams on these walnut blocks. Another drawback to this method, especially when using dark colored sawdust, is it makes the bags look like shit and difficult to inspect...prolly wont do it this way again.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23786456 - 10/30/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lookin good as well Myco, I see yours are sweating a lot too, this must be normal, I thought it was too much water, then too much temp swings, but after looking around it seems like this stuff just sweats. Yours look good, I see what you mean by the dark wood though. Hey Myco, got any ideas on fruiting the spawn jars? I was thinking of just letting them pin really good with the lids on and then open them up and keep them all in tote.
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Thanks man! That's exactly what I was thinking for the jars...Gr0wer might have some insight.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23787567 - 10/31/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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love your grows keep it up!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: liloldme]
#23790124 - 10/31/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23790761 - 11/01/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm knocking up some reishi jars today or tommrrow.
I still need to do some reading. I'm unsure what type of wood I wanna use and sub.
Could a guy do a mono tub or coir mixed with a percentage of wood pellets or sawdust?
I friend of mine being a rookie, inoculated a peat mixture and he got reishi cons to form. I'm gonna hit him up right now and ask him exactly what he used as I sit here remembering this lol... I'll post here what he says... it was interesting if I recall correctly
I'm shooting for several monos of reishi. So I'm thinking is coco and wood combo doable for monos?
Do people use pure woodpellets for their monos?
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I have used straight pellets, coir and verm, and a mix of them all. Seems like they work pretty well all around. Coir has a fair amount of lignin in it so I suspect it is going to perform well in this setting.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: I have used straight pellets, coir and verm, and a mix of them all. Seems like they work pretty well all around. Coir has a fair amount of lignin in it so I suspect it is going to perform well in this setting.
Rock on. I wasn't sure to say the least.
I plan to use rye berries as my spawn.
Maybe I will do one mono w pure coco and verm. Another with a mix a verm coco and wood pellets. And one more mono with mainly pellets.
Ur pretty confident just a coco/verm mono would perform tho? Inoculated with colonized rye spawn?
I was gonna try it regardless but I feel u was lead to believe pure coco would possibly only work in a setting where Ll was used Along with ur pasty invitro tek.
But me personally imagining it all I can't come up with why pure coco would work w ur invitro tek and not a mono w pure coco
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
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Well you need grain spawn as well or else suppliment the coir. If I'm doing a Ganoderma mono I'm definitely going to use a decent spawn ratio. LC to plain coir isn't going to do well.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: Well you need grain spawn as well or else suppliment the coir. If I'm doing a Ganoderma mono I'm definitely going to use a decent spawn ratio. LC to plain coir isn't going to do well.
Of course, that was my plan I think I confused ya... trying to explain my thoughts/confusion lol..
Straw seems to have a higher lignin content is that correct? So maybe a straw and coir combo or pure straw?
I like coco for simplicity I'm lazy lol
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
#23791039 - 11/01/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cardboard has produced some very good results as well.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23791084 - 11/01/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Coir has more than enough lignin if you want simple.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23791115 - 11/01/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Coir has more than enough lignin if you want simple.
Good to know
I will play around and start a thread when the time comes.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: liloldme]
#23791210 - 11/01/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was actually planning on making a few bags with coir or a coir mix, but then my master spawn started fruiting, so next round. Interesting in GGMM one of the few mentions of coir is in reference to reishi, I should go back and look at that.
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Coir would be a good addition for sure. I would recommend doing different % mixes in each bag and see what works best. I bet the coir can hold a lot more moisture than most other substrates.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23793299 - 11/01/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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In cube world we see many coir grows outperforming manure because it holds water so much better.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23793827 - 11/02/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Agreed, max BE requires 90% water content with no outside input throughout the substrate. If a fruit body has 90% water content, to get 100% from dry you need 90% water.
Simple maths, 65% wont = 100% BE, 75% and 80% are closest. 90-95% substrate water content attracts mold.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
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Well, all the bags had some form of contam or another so I pitched them as opposed to seeing if they would overtake it. The boil tek may have worked had I spawn them a little heavier...only did 1/2 qt. per bag. However, I still have the modified WL tek batch and will update soon. I've also got a few jars of wheat spawn that are colonized and starting to "pin" on top if that's the correct term...more like "globe" or "bubble". Anyway, I'm gonna shake the shit out of them and see how they do as spawn. Are you starting to see pinning in the bags?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
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To be honest, I expected them to do exactly what they did, so I'm not too broke up about it. That reishi strain is so vigorous I'll just noc some properly sterilized bags up this weekend and be right back in it...how did your tub turn out?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23795120 - 11/02/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said: Well, all the bags had some form of contam or another so I pitched them as opposed to seeing if they would overtake it. The boil tek may have worked had I spawn them a little heavier...only did 1/2 qt. per bag. However, I still have the modified WL tek batch and will update soon. I've also got a few jars of wheat spawn that are colonized and starting to "pin" on top if that's the correct term...more like "globe" or "bubble". Anyway, I'm gonna shake the shit out of them and see how they do as spawn. Are you starting to see pinning in the bags?
Sorry to hear that, my bags with a heavier spawn are like night and day with how fast they colonized and started fruiting. Those had a full quart, the rest of my bags were about 1/2 a quart and they are still doing good, just WAY slower than ones with more spawn. I'm about to upload some pictures right now, I can finally see a little better through the condensation and they are definitely starting to pin on the tops.
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Update, Everything is going good, the bags with heavier spawn (1 full quart) are pretty far ahead of the rest which got 1/2 quart. Any extra or pooling water has been sucked back into the blocks and they have got rock hard and consolidated. The mass growing on the sides looks awesome, I'm wondering how those are going to grow out, it's hard to tell but looks cool none the less like one big reishi growing around each bag.

And I can finally get some pictures of the tops, seems to be coming in good.

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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23795182 - 11/02/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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And thanks again for that plate, this has been a ton of fun so far
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said: To be honest, I expected them to do exactly what they did, so I'm not too broke up about it. That reishi strain is so vigorous I'll just noc some properly sterilized bags up this weekend and be right back in it...how did your tub turn out?
I posted on Greg's thread , I got 91g dry from my one tub they are bathing in vodka right now.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
#23805009 - 11/05/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A little update, everything is going great! Everything is colonized, I haven't lost one bag yet and the earlier bags are pinning up and kicking ass, a lot of pins are growing off the mass of the side walls and they look huge and awesome! I will say though, I feel quite anxious not having anything to fruit in my growroom and Im moving my oyster growing over to my buddies shop, so I think I may end up playing with some of these bags in there(I have 89 bags made)
Here they are

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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: liloldme]
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23805784 - 11/06/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23807546 - 11/06/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The bags should self inflate over time, leaving more space for antlers. Looking good! now just wait 3 months lol
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23820089 - 11/10/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23820112 - 11/10/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23820131 - 11/10/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's Marty's miracle wood mix, variety in nutrients and energy sources. Different wood, different composition, even if its slight.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23820144 - 11/10/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah! I have no reference personally but they have been way speedier than I expected. They are all still in my lab and now I am going to rush to get a nice spot set up in my shop with good lighting and a little heat and also throw about 20 bags into my grow tent and open them up, GGMM says the best time to open the bags for fruiting is when the antlers are 4 inches.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23820159 - 11/10/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks ferather, I am a big fan of this wood mix now. I can't wait to throw my oysters on it. That's a whole new story though, currently setting up a grow chamber at my friends big metal shop and getting ready to build a steamer there as well.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23820176 - 11/10/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23824311 - 11/11/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Pasty
Hey I was wondering about picking your brains a bit on temps. My bags have been in my lab which is a nice upper 70's but I need to get them out of there now that they are fruiting, I just got my shop cleaned up and ready for them with good lighting but I'm worried about the temps dropping for them, it's not too cold yet but it will be and it's definitely going to be in the 60's at night when I put them in there, I plan on putting a space heater in there too, what have you guys that are experienced with reishi think, should I strive to keep my shop in the 70's at least? I can tell they are liking the warmth but I don't want to run a space heater all the time.
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This is such a visually appealing mushroom to grow, I love em'.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: anthiawe]
#23846120 - 11/18/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is such a great thread Marty.. I'm going to be following this method.. Big thanks to you and Gr0wer.. Where did you get the XLbags?
And did I read that right? You can do reishi with the cube mix of coir and verm? That would be great considering I can't find hardwood pellets to save my life.. Softwood pellets on the other hand no problem
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: keifnnugs]
#23846739 - 11/18/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks guys! Keif, I got my XL bags from outgrow, They do a good discount on bulk, but unicorn is way cheaper per bag if you order from them in bulk also. And with the coir it is said (also in GGMM) that it is a good sub for Reishi, though I haven't done it yet, I plan to try it on my next batch of bags. With the soft wood pellets I have seen some good reishi grows with it and have good success myself using them for oysters, especially supplemented. All in all this a great method, for both not having to run them in a grow room or FC and not having to deal with the spores until harvest.
I have some more pictures to upload tonight, these things are growing like crazy
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Here is a couple photos from tonight


The bags have really inflated over past few days.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
#23848095 - 11/19/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mans gonna make money --££$$££--
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23848623 - 11/19/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ha, either that or I am going to have tincture for the rest of my life!
So I am figuring most of my bags are going to be done in january, and I am thinking of building a nice raised garden bed in my backyard around that time to get ready for the spring, I want to time it out so when my bags are done and spent I can fill up my garden bed with them. Do any of you know if reishi will grow from a bed like that? Is it worth the effort?
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I would make some clones of some of the best ones. Reishi are tough, so I don't know if a peg will work. Else I would say stick a sterilized toothpick in them, wait for growth and pass to Agar.
That way you can weep the fruit body to make tinctures.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23848702 - 11/19/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why make clones when you have the culture?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
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If you clone a fruit, you should end with that fruit in multiples. Else you are using multiple genetics, I like to clone.
Clone under the cap for branched types.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23848838 - 11/19/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here are two scenario's:
Reishi sample #24 produced the most tinctures with no loss of quality, I will copy peg #24.
Reishi sample #19 produced the most potent tincture, I will copy peg #19.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23848858 - 11/19/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cloning a mushroom -- Vendor source.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23848915 - 11/19/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I could clone one to gain the experience of cloning reishi, I plan on doing some hunting this next season. I have taken a clone from a grey oyster that was grown from a kit and it is a monster culture and out performed what I had initially gotten with the kit.

This Reishi culture is rockin' though, I have it all on pltes in the fridge right now, I need to take it back out and put it on slants and give out some cultures, would anybody be interested in that?
And thanks again to Mycolorado, and Quadman for getting me this culture.
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I might be interested in a trade at a later date, I have an ancient black Reishi I intend to clone. Still getting my experience up with cleaning infected cultures on T-Gel at the moment.
I will PM you if you still have cultures when I have a tradeable sample.
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marty i would be interested, and then also get a group think tank on how to get this im sure its reishi
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23848947 - 11/19/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Black Reishi looks awesome, I'm totally interested and will have the culture still, I'm going to make a bunch of slants of it so that's what I'd send you, it seems that would be good for the ride overseas?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: anthiawe]
#23848955 - 11/19/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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anthiawe said: marty i would be interested, and then also get a group think tank on how to get this im sure its reishi
Holy shit! That is unbelievably awesome. I have seen a bunch of fungi related materials being made, but this one seems like the game changer, and he did say this mushroom has been taken for thousands of years as medicine so it does sound like he's talking about reishi, and the color. This is really cool and eye opening, thanks for bringing that to my attention. A think tank is exactly what we need on this, I wonder how close they are guarding their technique.
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here is the guy of the company giving a presentation, he has reishi conks on the intro slide....they aren't letting anything out but the final product.
I have a few ideas on how to achieve a product like it, but only theoretical at this point.
but since you've got the ability to tame the reishi i thought i'd bounce some ideas around - PM later
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Thats amazing, that guy is shaking with excitement. Sure Marty I can package for overseas.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: anthiawe]
#23848977 - 11/19/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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My mind has been ticking about it the last few minutes.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
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Ferather said: If you clone a fruit, you should end with that fruit in multiples. Else you are using multiple genetics, I like to clone.
Clone under the cap for branched types.
I may be wrong but, Genetics Marty has are all the same , they are an isolate not from multi spore. If you clone the same you get the same.
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Ah fair enough Quadman, did not know they where an isolate, but I do see differential fruits.
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Ferather said: Ah fair enough Quadman, did not know they where an isolate, but I do see differential fruits.
That is why we buy and trade cultures,known genetics that produce. Not many gourmet growers use spoess because you'd have to isolate and then fruit to maybe find a strain worth growing. I can't understand why cube growers work off spores so much . Seems they could have much better grows with proven cultures. I assume it has to do with the legality and staying under the radar?
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You cant trade live cubensis mycelium, but you can sell cubensis spores. Depending on where you live.
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Thats true, however in the UK if customs opened a package to sealed spores. They should re-seal the package, add a sticker and send it on.
If they opened to a sealed pack of live mycelium. Chances are they will open it and test it.
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Doubt it, they wouldn't even know wtf it was so they'd pass it on.
Who the fuck cares about a lil mushroom mycelium and how r they gonna test it?
It's gonna cost em more than they wanna spend to test it. So they'Ll pass it and find a package with some powder they can test or seeds they can take.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
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I just read recently that back in the day mycologost Dr. Stephen Pollock had a company out of texas that sold live cultures and kits of actives, it is said he was skating on the lines of legality with his quote "20 pages of legal mumbo jumbo"
I just read a really interesting article on him written by Hamilton Morris, he was the guy who first collected P. Tampensis and traveled the country in a winnebago mycology lab and mysteriously murdered in front of his home, the murder was never solved but rumors and a mysterious tape point the finger at the FBI If any of you guys are interested I will link the article, it is chalked full of mycological history and mystery. http://harpers.org/archive/2013/07/blood-spore/ If any of you guys read it I would love to hear what you think.
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The bags have really inflated over past few days.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: nk122]
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Thanks guys. Greg do you have any more Reishi going?
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Marty that article reads like sci Fi . Very intriguing. Enough to make anyone paranoid. Big money and some big names . Wow!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
#23855934 - 11/21/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, the names and the money!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
#23856822 - 11/22/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ferather said: Ah fair enough Quadman, did not know they where an isolate, but I do see differential fruits.
That is why we buy and trade cultures,known genetics that produce. Not many gourmet growers use spoess because you'd have to isolate and then fruit to maybe find a strain worth growing. I can't understand why cube growers work off spores so much . Seems they could have much better grows with proven cultures. I assume it has to do with the legality and staying under the radar?
I can speak only for myself, but i don't grow from spore for any legal reason. -it would take most of the fun out for me growing from a "proven" culture -your culture is maybe proven to be good, but maybe it performs poorly on a specific substrate, maybe a better culture can be found, etc -in brief spores = more possibilities
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Chk]
#23857103 - 11/22/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ferather said: Ah fair enough Quadman, did not know they where an isolate, but I do see differential fruits.
That is why we buy and trade cultures,known genetics that produce. Not many gourmet growers use spoess because you'd have to isolate and then fruit to maybe find a strain worth growing. I can't understand why cube growers work off spores so much . Seems they could have much better grows with proven cultures. I assume it has to do with the legality and staying under the radar?
I can speak only for myself, but i don't grow from spore for any legal reason. -it would take most of the fun out for me growing from a "proven" culture -your culture is maybe proven to be good, but maybe it performs poorly on a specific substrate, maybe a better culture can be found, etc -in brief spores = more possibilities
Stick to cubes.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23857194 - 11/22/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spores are fun, but so are commercial cultures that have been developed over years by professional mycologists. From the commercial cultivator to the hobbyist, keeping a single culture for years and years spreading around the globe is a pretty magical notion. Chk, if you haven't done it check out the Aloha culture bank website http://www.alohaculturebank.com/index.html It can give you an idea about the exhaustive research, development, and science that goes on with mushroom strains.
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I now order from France and Germany, both qualified vendors.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23857300 - 11/22/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good to hear ferather Got your eye on anything new?
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I'm not sure yet, still working on a few things before I start new types.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23857607 - 11/22/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I finally hunted down hardwood pellets!!! I'll be doing a comparison on reishi on coir and hardwood pellets.. Will also finally get this super fast lions mane culture in some bags.. Damn thing fruits in agar before it colonists the whole pasty plate..
Anyone ever eat the small fruits off agar?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: keifnnugs]
#23857641 - 11/22/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome dude That will be a cool comparison. I look forward to seeing your lions mane, sounds like you have a good culture, I have never grown it but I keep hearing that it can be a slow colonizer and grower.
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Everytime I do LM it always seems super slow at first and then it seems to instantly colonize 100% overnight.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23857656 - 11/22/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23857661 - 11/22/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lion - named for the sneak colonzing. Mane - for its physical features.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: anthiawe]
#23857682 - 11/22/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm yet to get a pearl from any oyster, I need a refund dammit!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: anthiawe]
#23857693 - 11/22/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think I might have to give LM a go on my next project. Cultures guys? I have some stuff to trade. Or any advice on where to get a decent culture semi cheap?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23857703 - 11/22/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have an update on the grow as a whole, the first set of bags to get inoculated about a month ago are rocking, they got a good jump on everything with the heavier spawning, 1 quart.

The rest are following along pretty well, everything else was spawned with about 1/2 a quart. Some great pinsets and some funkier ones with the bags on the racks, I dont what it is, the way the bags cant stand all the way up I have started pulling the plastic back and away and it seems to help.

Here are some spawn jars I decided to fruit because I let them sit too long, they are coming along, slowly however.

What I have noticed so far is light and heat affects a lot, with the temps dropping I am noticing a big drop in growth from everything, I have been trying to keep it warm due to Gr0wer mentioning quicker growth with higher temps. Also the bags closer to lights have far better pinsets, you can see how crazy I have been going on the lights since noticing how big of a difference light intensity makes.
Edited by Marty Mycfly (11/22/16 06:04 PM)
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Yo!
You got some nice cultures mane, i love the color, my reishi is so dull in color, like flaky light yellow dust lol!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23859740 - 11/23/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey Marty shoot me a PM I can send you a wedge. I may have a good culture because this one is really fast and I was seeing pins once it was a little more then quarter size
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: keifnnugs]
#23860628 - 11/23/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23861701 - 11/23/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You got some nice cultures mane, i love the color, my reishi is so dull in color, like flaky light yellow dust lol! 
If you get close enough to mine you can see a shit ton of the yellow dust looking stuff, it's hard to get good pictures through the bags though. But they are colorful, I originally read from Gr0wer how lighting affects tje color and boy he is right, I can tell very visibly that the bags closer to lighting are far more vibrant in color.
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Bro! those first pics look legit as fuck! Only issue i see is the bags are not self inflating. Are you handling the bags a lot? What is the filter patch size? Those bags should be like a full balloon IME.
And you need to move that light up to the top, that's whats making your antlers grow directional. The most space efficient way would be to move your light from left to right every few weeks giving you zig zag antlers maximizing space inside your bags.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23862357 - 11/24/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I will do that with the lights I have noticed with the bags that have some good sized antlers in them the bags balooned out almost over night when they did. The filter patches are the 5 micron ones, yeah I don;t know but it seems to be the bags on the racks which haven't really ever been handled at all? I was thinking about moving everything around a bit.
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I hope you have a lorry to transport that load!!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23863164 - 11/24/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used .5 micron. That might be the difference in holding the inflation. Do you have any added RH in the room to reduce evaporation?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23863355 - 11/24/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: I used .5 micron. That might be the difference in holding the inflation. Do you have any added RH in the room to reduce evaporation?
I think your right about the filter patch. I'm planning on moving all of these bags to my shop once I get the temperature in there stable, I have long tables and shop lights, like I was telling you the other day I just scored a ton of rigid foam insulation and I want to put that up in there or build something similar to what you did for your incubation chamber around my tables or racks, where I can add as much heat as I want and raise the RH, right now they are sitting in bone dry RH.
By the way, Happy Thanksgiving Gr0wer, and to everybody! Any good mushroom dishes at the table this afternoon?
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Happy thanksgiving. Today i put about a 1/2 lb of elm oysters in with my green bean casserole.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23868020 - 11/26/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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MM see how yellowy my reishies are 

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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23868125 - 11/26/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those are kinda cool. I don't see mycelium on surface, is that right?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
#23868138 - 11/26/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its really wispy mycelium, only happens when i spawn to wood shavings, but on cardboard or paper it colonises it like there is no tomorrow.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23868183 - 11/26/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The wood shavings are likely too raw, it's mostly running on spawn. Paper pellets are amazing.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23868322 - 11/26/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ye that could be the case
I love paper, it so good! especially on the past reishi grow i had and the turkey tail.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23868885 - 11/26/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow Teemo, those are beautiful! Hey you mentioned growing Turkey Tail, what method did you use to grow them and how did they turn out?
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Used cardboard soaked with a bit of coffee if i remember correctly


They would of grown bigger but i didn't have a GH or the humidity wasn't high enough at that month (cus these were outside), it was like 30%, i'm sure if it was at the 70s range it would of grown fine outside.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23870537 - 11/26/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here was my TT on a supplemented sawdust block
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
#23870576 - 11/26/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love it when they blob up, did yours get any bigger Gr0wer?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23870582 - 11/26/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see u removed the bag entirely on that tt block grower
Next time would u try just leaving the bag and cutting slits just curious?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
#23870770 - 11/26/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow guys those are awesome Teemo, that is an awesome looking way of fruiting them! Gr0wer, did you let them pin in the FC or in the bags? Im really interested in growing some turkey tails, that puts a little fire under my ass to get a culture soon.
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Teemo - what is your method? interesting vessel you have there for your turkey tails.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: anthiawe]
#23871195 - 11/27/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just melted holes with a screw driver on the bottom of a small tub, spawned them to coffee soaked cardboard, closed the holes with tape, closed the lid and wallaaah
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23871277 - 11/27/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Teemo 6T3 said: Used cardboard soaked with a bit of coffee if i remember correctly


They would of grown bigger but i didn't have a GH or the humidity wasn't high enough at that month (cus these were outside), it was like 30%, i'm sure if it was at the 70s range it would of grown fine outside.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23885285 - 12/01/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is my weekly update

The bags with 1 quart of spawn are still way farther ahead and just looks heavier with antlers in general.

One thing is some of the bags that started fruiting later than the others made huge sidewalls of myc and the pinsets have come mostly from the sidewalls and not the surface of the blocks, however they still look pretty full.

On a side note, I have ten bags that I didnt think would come along. I had made a bunch of sub one night but got busy and couldn't sterilize it for almost 2 days, the sub smelled like shit and was on the verge of molding and had fruit fly's all over it, I said fuck it and sterilized and inoculated them anyways, and they just sat for 3 weeks! No growth at all, you could see all of the grains sitting there in the sawdust doing nothing. And all of a sudden they started colonizing, every bag started from what seemed like a single inoculation point and finished up in a week and started fruiting pronto Absolutely no sign of bacteria, contam, nothing, they just sat dead for weeks under my table and then went ape shit

Here is some of the Reishi fruiting off of my milo spawn. Really slow fruiting on grain.

I took the culture back out of the fridge and put it back on some plates, I'm going to slant it and hopefully have some culture plates to give out soon

Thanks for reading guys, and all of the input and help
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Looking good!!
Are you using .5 or .2 filter patch bags? I'll be starting once my bags get here!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: keifnnugs]
#23885727 - 12/01/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those quart-spawned bags are beautiful. And cool on the fermented sub...interesting to see how they finish up. Awesome grow, dude!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
#23885741 - 12/01/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hella nice Marty!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23886606 - 12/02/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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So is this a Black Reishi or giant TT?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
#23888070 - 12/02/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks guys. And Ferather, I have no idea Looks awesome though.
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Are you using .5 or .2 filter patch bags? I'll be starting once my bags get here!
Im actually using the 5 micron, but the others are probably better, Gr0wer pointed out that my bags might not be inflating as much because of the size of my filters.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
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This is caused by growing it in an enclosed environment. It often happens in bags or tubs, usually near the base where there is even less airflow. If you increase the airflow while maintaining humidity you will see it clear up and take on the shiny color typical of reishi.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
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Ganoderma adspersum you may find it in local guidebooks under G.australe.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mrcloudy]
#23892896 - 12/04/16 04:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Mrcloudy, I see it here. Worth cloning?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mrcloudy]
#23897532 - 12/05/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is caused by growing it in an enclosed environment. It often happens in bags or tubs, usually near the base where there is even less airflow. If you increase the airflow while maintaining humidity you will see it clear up and take on the shiny color typical of reishi.
Teemo, is that yellow reishi?
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I honestly don't know, it was just labelled Lucidum ganoderma when i bought it.
Its been showing this growth everytime.
But i believe cloudy is some what right, cus they're getting more colour once i opened the tub a bit.
Still weird though cus most people still get really vibrant red color when they grow from bags.... And i'm growing this in a old hybrid shotgun FC, holes covered with micropore tape.
This is how they look after i kept the lid slightly open for a while
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23899202 - 12/06/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Better pics
This fell off while i was moving the tub  
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23899224 - 12/06/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I haven't done the experiments myself, but from my understanding brighter lights will help induce more vivid colors. I have had limited lighting for my setups though so I cannot confirm.

I have a complicated system that blasts them with as much fresh air as possible while maintaining a high humidity and I can control it by changing the speed of the intake fan.

I designed it specifically for growing reishi but I suspect it will work real well with other species as well, especially those that have finicky air requirements.
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Those are really vibrant, good job man 
I just moved my tub outside so it can have a more sun tan
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I just moved my tub outside so it can have a more sun tan 
Just keep in mind its a delicate ballance, a change in temperature will change the humidity in the air. It can be tricky. But as long as the humidity is still good they will be happy.
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Mrcloudy said: I haven't done the experiments myself, but from my understanding brighter lights will help induce more vivid colors. I have had limited lighting for my setups though so I cannot confirm.
I can, light is used to trigger vitamin production, mostly vitamin D.
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Excellent grow! I've been following since the beginning, and it really helps to see the transformations that reishi mycelium undergoes. It's an educational thread for a photogenic species.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: AndyHinton]
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I'm still reversing on Mrcloudy's advice. Based on my Golden oyster, which has the same reaction by the way. Best colour and taste is observed in a nutrient rich substrate with high 02, water and rich light.
All needed to produce and convert vitamins and nutrients, preventing deficiency.
There is high vitamin C and D present in edible mushrooms. Neither wood, grain or bran contain C or D.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mrcloudy]
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Thanks Andy
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Mrcloudy said: I haven't done the experiments myself, but from my understanding brighter lights will help induce more vivid colors. I have had limited lighting for my setups though so I cannot confirm.

I have a complicated system that blasts them with as much fresh air as possible while maintaining a high humidity and I can control it by changing the speed of the intake fan.

I designed it specifically for growing reishi but I suspect it will work real well with other species as well, especially those that have finicky air requirements.
Nice MrCloudy
Lighting most definitely helps with the vivid colors, the bags that have been closer to my lights have gotten far more vibrant than the others farther away,also better pin sets, I started moving the lights around now. They also grow towards the light like crazy
 You could see how they are zig zagging towards where ever the most light is at the time.
MrCloudy, is your fruiting chamber there designed to conk them?
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Its designed so that I can adjust it as needed. So if I want antlers I reduce the airflow and if I want to conk I increase it.
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I have also noticed that if the humidity is high enough it mimics low airflow. Probably because the water condenses on the mushroom and smothers it a bit.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mrcloudy]
#23900132 - 12/06/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Change in ratio of available O2 per cubic measurement. No different to adding a random inert gas.
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This fell off while i was moving the tub  

Lookin' good, and you can make a shot of tea with that little guy that fell off
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Happy holidays everyone, updating today after moving all of my bags out of the lab and getting everything cleaned up in the shop for their new home. Everything is looking good and some bags have antlers reaching the filter patch.

So I got antsy and decided to open up a bag early so I could see what kind of weight I'm getting so far, make some tea and some tincture. And man, I couldn't tell just how beautiful these are through the bags until I opened one.





317 grams wet from that bag, got them dehydrating now so tomorrow I will have a dry weight and maybe a good estimate on what I might be getting all around. Thanks for reading guys, and happy holidays
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Teemo 6T3]
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Marty,absolutely stellar fruits man! Please keep us posted on any extracts or tinctures you make from these I am very interested. A big thumbs up to you my dude
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: MycoFlora]
#23921550 - 12/13/16 01:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks guys I'm planning on doing a bunch of tincture and different things with this stuff, I think I will probably harvest the rest sometime after new year, this bag I harvested had a lot of juice left in it, I was just curious after watching them grow for so long. I'm gearing up for lions mane and shiitaki right now thanks to Quad
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
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Thanks Myco, and especially for the culture And thanks for the Chuck Fearther
So the dried weight from that bag is 91 grams. Hopefully if I let the rest go past the new year I will be hitting a 1/4 lb. per bag like Gr0wer was getting.
Does anyone have a suggestion on making Reishi tea, how to prepare, how much to use and how long to boil?
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Those bags are looking beautiful Marty! Nice dense growth of the antlers too, when I did a minimono of them the pinset wasn't anywhere near as dense.
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Marty Mycfly said: Does anyone have a suggestion on making Reishi tea, how to prepare, how much to use and how long to boil?
I generally bring the tea to a boil and then reduce to a simmer for 2 hours.
I've tried using chunks and blending, and if you can blend the reishi it turns into part powder, part stringy fibers, and the resulting tea is much more bitter. Which I think is better.
The dose I've read quoted the most is 5 grams a day, so I shoot to have 5 grams in cup of tea.
I'm about to make a batch right now using some blended reishi in jars in a pressure canner to see it that makes a better tea. I think it might make measuring the dose easier because water won't be boiling off. None of my non PC pots have very good lids so I lose a lot of water when boiling the tea. If the jars in the canner method works I'll make a post about it later tonight.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Speckles]
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The tincture I just finished was 3gr reishi to one ounce double extract.
90gr dry reishi made 30 oz tincture
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Speckles]
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Awesome dude, thanks for the tips on that and post that if it turns out well I'm going to make some tea tonight, I'm also reading about reihi coffee right now, I'm a big coffee drinker so getting a dose of reishi with my coffee sounds awesome.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
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Quadman said: The tincture I just finished was 3gr reishi to one ounce double extract.
90gr dry reishi made 30 oz tincture
Do you have a link or anything on the process?
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Here is GrOwers numbers mine were a little more concentrated. My recipe: 90 grams dry reishi 40 days in 100 proof alcohol= 15 ounces 4 hrs simmering in water = 15 ounces 30 ounces of 25% alcohol
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23848729
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Quadman]
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The flavor definitely goes well with coffee! I like to pour some tea into a french press with the grounds then fill the rest with water.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Speckles]
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Let us know how it goes Marty.. It's always the nasty bitter stuff that's so good for us.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: keifnnugs]
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As bad as it is I'm starting to like chewin on a gram of rippin reishi.I just can't stop smiling and generally feeling well!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pinpapa]
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Lol, I saw your post on that, it made me curious. Is that a gram fresh or dried?
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Pinpapa said: As bad as it is I'm starting to like chewin on a gram of rippin reishi.I just can't stop smiling and generally feeling well!
That's interesting.. Do you chew on a gram piece a day or do you do more? How quick does it take before you feel it?
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Dried 2 times a day.I just started this week.I had results the first time!Good thing as we got a foot of snow 2day.It hits (reishi) in less than 1/2 hr.Something I just realized I'm having vivid dreams,odd because I have grown weed 4 30yrs and been on methadone 4 15 yrs so I never remember dreams. Im sure I do dream just don't recall them .Last night I jumped out of bed over some dream that was pretty real.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Pinpapa]
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Thanks man, I'm gonna go ahead and chew on a chunk later, I like me some bitter
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I wouldn't just simmer for 4 hours, overnight is best. Here is what i do. 1/2 lb reishi (or whatever mushroom) per 1/2 gal mason jar. fill with 40% good (but not too good) vodka until its slightly under liquid, you want like watery oatmeal, you might need to add more a day or two later if it soaks it all up. After 2 weeks Strain and squeeze, i use little 6x8 muslin cloth bags to squeeze out the vodka. Put the solids into a crock pot and measure out how much vodka you got out, say its 1 quart. So take 1 qt clean water and put that in the crock with the solids and mix, take a stick/straw and see what the water level is and mark the stick. This is your end target volume for 1:1 dilution for 20% alcohol. Add another quart or so and turn the crock on low with the lid off. Stir every few hours. About a day later it should be close to your target volume, if not let it go a bit longer. Once done let it cool, strain, squeeze, blend and bottle, 30 or 60cc syringes are great for bottling large quantities of 1 or 2oz bottles, respectively. Label em and if you want to be even more pro get some perforated shrink bands on em.
the bags i use, bigger would be better but i use these for hop additions in my kegs and they are the perfect size to fit through the lid. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YRAOL0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
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Dude Thanks man, that was super comprehensive, just what I needed. Hey Gr0wer, have you had any luck with getting rid of whole reishi at the farmers market, or anywhere else?
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Hit us with an update Marty..my bags will finally be started this weekend.. I'm also getting a black reishi culture.. I'm super excited!
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: keifnnugs]
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Hey guys, happy holidays Hope everyone is having a great one! I have been pretty busy getting things in order for the holidays, and even playing a little music, I even got to play fiddle with a couple guys on the radio a few days ago for a Christmas show Also sneaking in a little time to get spawn ready for a Shiitaki and Lions Mane grow. Just made a batch of reishi tea, and I got to say it makes you feel good

So everything is going great, although my shop been getting pretty chilly at times and think the growth has slowed a little bit, but other than that it's all going smoothly, I still need to get some more lighting up over one of the tables.

Some bags are conking, I dont know why

Anyways, that's my update. Lovin' the Reishi and the invitro growing, thanks again to Gr0wer for the technique and MyColorado for the culture. And all of you guys out there, happy holidays
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Conking is directly relative to fresh air lowering CO2 levels. Some of your bags for one reason or another are receiving better circulation than others. Ganoderma typically doesn't get enough fresh air in bags without opening them to conk. You probably have a species like G.sessile or something else in the resinaceum clade that typically grows without a stem in the wild. They are less sensitive to the CO2 levels and start conking as soon as the fruits begin to form.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mrcloudy]
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Great info Mr cloudy!
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 Thanks for that info cloudy. Hey what is your experience with conking them from antlers? In GGMM stamets says you lose the ability to conk them after the antlers are 4 inches. Do you think I might still be able to fruit some of those in the chamber? I was also thing about maybe poking holes in some of the bags.
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I'd say that's not particularly true...

Though this is a wild specimen.
I haven't really had too much success with getting nice conks to form myself, but that's partially a side effect of me trying to grow as many different species at a time and finding a sweet spot that keeps everything growing. I am thinking of making some bags of something like G.curtisii and putting them outside come spring. I am mostly happy if I just get some pores to form so I can harvest spores for study.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mrcloudy]
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What are you studying with the spores?
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So I have not updated this thread for a while, I harvested about half of my bags in January and got super busy and the other half, about 50 of them, have been sitting in my shed with no light and shaky temps for almost 3 months So alot of these bags have been going for 5+ months, and they look great!(to me). They stopped growing after a while it seems and just got fatter. I am going to take some pictures tonight and update while I am harvesting, which is gonna take a little time, I only have 2 dehydrators. Have any of you grown out Reishi that long?
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Wow! How did I miss this thread!
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Opened up 15 bags tonight, went to town on photos



I did have a few bags where the antlers had some white powdery stuff on them Have you guys seen this? They were sticky like spores but white and not yellowish brown like the rest of the spores.

Hope it's not a big deal I'm gonna harvest a bunch more bags in the morning, I think my dehydrators are gonna be full tonight
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Just when I think I'm getting the hang of something I see success like your "neglected bags" and then I realized what I hack I am! Damn nice work Marty.
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Wow! Impressive grow, MM!
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 Thanks guys!!! Hopefully this will help people out who try the same technique, maybe if I get time I can write it into a simple tek based around a smaller amount of bags.
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I think you were MIA when I started this, I remember asking people, "where is Travel yo"
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
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Yes and Yes. Are they warmer weather? We just had a few days in the 90's here why did I move to the desert from southern california? Oh Yeah, Woody Guthrie said it best,
"You want to buy you a home or a farm, that can't deal nobody harm, Or take your vacation by the mountains or sea. Don't swap your old cow for a car, you better stay right where you are, Better take this little tip from me." If you ain't got the do re mi, boys, you ain't got the do re mi, Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee. California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see; But believe it or not, you won't find it so hot If you ain't got the do re mi."
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69.8-80.6 °F, should be alright slightly higher. Pleurotus eunosmus (Tarragon Oyster). Its a variation of Pleurotus cornucopiae (Branched Oyster), not P. ostreatus.
It’s smell and taste resembles the herb tarragon, its unique and rare.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
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More bags to harvest tomorrow
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Beautiful pics, Marty! You should start selling the antlers as art to Asian museums. 
Not sure about the white stuff, but I heard it was common to briefly sterilize dried reishi? Anyway, I'd like to try growing them this summer. Please do write a tek.
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AndyHinton said: Beautiful pics, Marty! You should start selling the antlers as art to Asian museums. 
Not sure about the white stuff, but I heard it was common to briefly sterilize dried reishi? Anyway, I'd like to try growing them this summer. Please do write a tek.
Thanks Andy, I need to find an Asian museum
I wonder how one would go about sterilizing dry reishi?
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Now that you ask, I can't remember where I heard that. Site search doesn't help. Maybe a fluke of the memory or some confusion with the canned reishi tea thread?
It's probably just bullshit. I'll work out something real re: growing it later. Went from to full capacity in a week thanks to several good people.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: AndyHinton]
#24197572 - 03/27/17 04:46 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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U could wipe them down with ozinated water to "sterilize" them.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
#24197867 - 03/27/17 06:41 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spectacular grow Marty!!!!
I believe sterilizing reishi would be for wild picked specimens. To kill any insect eggs. They may go hidden away, unnoticed for over a year, until all of a sudden ...bugs!
Here's some quotes I wish I had found earlier.
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RogerRabbit said: I had some dried reishi that hatched out a few thousand of the bastards over the winter. We're still killing them..lol RR
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RogerRabbit said: We always bake the reishi we collect in the wild for at least 12 hours at 200F as soon as we get them dry. The reason is to kill off the insect eggs that are always inside wild picked fruits before they can hatch out. We once had our entire condo infested with thousands of tiny bugs that hatched out of a batch of Ganoderma oregonese before we started doing that. I'm sure that's why your customs wants to do it as well. It's smart on their part to protect your local environment. RR
Raven44, again I am so sorry the dried wild G. tsugae I sent you eventually hatched out bugs. I (still) feel like a real piece of shit over that.
      
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Thnks Forage
I think mine are good, all of the bags smelled terrific, just some of that powdery stuff on some fruits.
One thing I will note about these bags is that the bags with heavy pinsets just grew straight up and uniform, and the bags with smaller pinsets got the coolest looking and biggest fruits.
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The white powdery stuff on the antlers is a natural response to low airflow. It is common in bag grows.
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mrcloudy]
#24198246 - 03/27/17 09:11 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you Mr. Cloudy, in fact I think I remember seeing you say that around here before
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Thanks, foraged.
Update: The "sterilized reishi" resource I had in mind was Chapter 23 of GGMM. "Some cultivators actually sterilize their dried mushrooms, without harm, to prolong storage. Sterilization assures no bacteria, insect eggs, or other microorganisms consume the crop when stored for prolonged periods of time. Once dried, the mushrooms should be hermetically sealed, and ideally frozen until needed."
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: AndyHinton]
#24198935 - 03/28/17 07:03 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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You should have communicated this to me before now foraged fungus.....
Thanks for the info regardless
Sry for off topic post op. I admire your nice lil grow.
U may have stated this before op but care to answer how much spawn u started with total? How many bags of spawn did u use? What was the spawn ratio? And how many reishi bags did all that spawn make total?
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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
#24200152 - 03/28/17 03:36 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I started with 6 6# pound bags of spawn and also a bunch of quart jars of spawn, I can't remember how many of those I expanded and just used straight to sawdust? I was using a good amount of spawn I believe, like 1/2 # per bag. I will go back through my notes later and see If that is correct
And don't worry about talking about ANYTHING in this thread, I want it full of as much information as possible
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So the dry weight from the other night was 2.2 pounds
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