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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23764837 - 10/23/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Cool.  Well,  I just used my standard oyster sub recipe which uses walnut and fruit tree sawdust. I came up short on bran but was planning on cutting it back from the normal 20%...so these are around 15.5% bran with 4% gyp. I just mixed the dry ingredients, loaded bags with around 11 oz each, added a pound of boiling water to each , massaged, folded over and left to "pasteurize" and cool.  Each will receive a half quart of rye spawn.  Never done it like this...kinda winging it to see how it turns out.




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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23765052 - 10/23/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome! We basically have the same sub, I supplemented at 15% as well, though my wood mix is different.
I am super interested to see how well yours do with the boiling water, I have been PC'ng for days. I am doing 4 lb bags and have been able to put 8 into my 941 and 4 in my 921, I have been doing two runs of that a day and it's a pain in the ass. I am almost done building Gr0wers steamer, I just need to get a tap and few more small things.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23765195 - 10/23/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ha...I was just looking back over this thread and saw I did pretty much the same as you.  Yeah man, I hate PCing bags...I have a 17qt...Can only do two 4.5 lb bags at a time. :mad:  I'm pretty puritanical when it comes to pasteurization and sterilization so this type of thing leaves me a bit apprehensive.  Fingers crossed.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23765453 - 10/23/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm hoping to get the rest of the parts for that steamer in the next few days, I meant to have it finished by this run but just didn't, and I just checked my next batch of spawn and it's gonna be ready in a few days, if I don't get it built I'm going your route there with the boiling water, also I'm gonna whip up some of those monotubs, I assume that would just be prepping the pellets in a bucket or something.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23765746 - 10/24/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes reishi love the heat. Keep em above 80 if you want fast reults. Still going to take 2-3 months but the higher temp might knock a week or two off.

I was just thinking about how to optimize a invitro reishi grow. One of the things i loved about this grow is you dont need any environmental controls. In hindsight, putting them into a chamber thats heated and with a high RH would reduce evaporation through the filter patches, boosting mostire content for those last few weeks and im sure increaing yeild.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Gr0wer]
    #23765787 - 10/24/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So, I have a bunch of bags made, some have been made for a couple days and are looking good, a little wet, but good.





Some of the first bags to get inoculated 3 days ago, these particular bags had a high spawn ratio o they are colonizing pretty fast, about 1 quart each. These are the ones that I think I overdid the extra water.








These ones I feel I got the water pretty close, and all of the rest of the bags have about a 1/2 quart of spawn. I'm going to go a little lower with spawn on the next bags and stretch out a bit more.


Just shook my second batch of spawn bags and master jars last night, I will start making bags again in a few days.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23774275 - 10/26/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Alright another update, my first batch of bags that I think were too wet are looking funky, they are just full of water and pissing all over:mad:
Anyways hopefully the rest of the bags I made after those do better, though a huge issue is just the condensation, it's crazy due to the temp fluctuations in my lab, I'm about to move them all out to my shop tonight so that will fix that problem.
Here are some pics, tell me if you guys think these ones pissing are going to do okay.














And here are the bags that were more on the dryer side, they just have a ton of condensation




Are these looking too funky?


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23779601 - 10/28/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'd say so long as it doesn't mold ur fine

Looks like lots of metabolites but that doesn't mean contam. It means the body of mycelium is doing its job

I recall greg reishi totes having a fair bit of the same type of activity if I'm not mistaken?

I'm starting a reishi grow just now. Making my jars soon

I'm glad I read this and gregs thread before hand


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
    #23779607 - 10/28/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If memory serves, reishi are notorious pissers.  Pretty sure I've read about bags being half full of red piss by the end of the grow....


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
    #23779608 - 10/28/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Its because its wood, wood resins and oils, i.e. theres more waste material in wood.
And I am yet to see a reishi grow that does not make metabolites on wood.

And this is the reason I find it difficult with reishi images.

Sorry Marty, I have no idea if thats bacteria.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
    #23779624 - 10/28/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bacteria always shows itself given time doesn't it?

I imagine if it's bacteria u will see it in your pinset.

Bacteria to my knowledge doesn't ever remain underlying and hidden. It always shows its nasty self sooner or later


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Raven44]
    #23780234 - 10/28/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the reply's guys:thumbup:
Those bags actually look way better now, the extra water and piss kind of has just been getting eaten up by myc and is making more of a brownish color around the sides of the bags that look like fruiting.
After I posted this I dived into images of reishi blocks and mine are definitely looking normal, I did read some people saying they would pour the extra water out of their bags once the block was fully colonized, I don't think I will do that because it looks like the blocks are actually using that extra water.
And another note, I thought the condensation was a mix of extra water and temperature fluctuation, but it seems from reading around that this is normal with reishi myc.
I will post an update later, thanks guys:thumbup:


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23786211 - 10/30/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Alright guys, I have an update and some observations.

First off, the bags filling up with piss stopped, and the puddles turned into mass and then what seems like fruit body, they look pretty good to me. The tops of the blocks are blobbing up good too, I couldn't get a good picture with all the condensation though, maybe in a few days.

Those are from the first 20 bags I did with a high spawn ratio, around 1 full  quart, these bags colonized way faster than the rest, they colonize fully in about 4 days and the rest of the bags had a 1/2 quart of spawn and are taking about 7 days.
I am pretty filled up with reishi bags, I planned on just filling up my wire shelf, but I went a little overboard.

Luckily my master spawn started fruiting like crazy before I could use it. so I will hang up my hat for a minute and fruit the spawn out of those jars.

I'm using a bag of spawn today that is super chunky after breaking it up, this culture creates a really thick mat on the outside of the spawn and it was starting to fruit too. Anyways, I'm inoculating some more bags with it today and that will be it for this run.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23786230 - 10/30/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck  :smile:


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Ferather]
    #23786266 - 10/30/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sweet!
Beautiful set up by the way! :thumbup:
Looking forward to seeing where this is going...
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    #23786295 - 10/30/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:Thanks guys!


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #23786362 - 10/30/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Looking good MM; you're gonna have a pile of reishi!  My bags are a couple days behind yours and appear to be following the same path.  I did notice a nasty in one of the bags...like I said, I wasn't too keen on the boiling water tek with bran.  Not that there's any correlation but I typically dont get contams on these walnut blocks.  Another drawback to this method, especially when using dark colored sawdust, is it makes the bags look like shit and difficult to inspect...prolly wont do it this way again. 

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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23786456 - 10/30/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Lookin good as well Myco, I see yours are sweating a lot too, this must be normal, I thought it was too much water, then too much temp swings, but after looking around it seems like this stuff just sweats.
Yours look good, I see what you mean by the dark wood though.
Hey Myco, got any ideas on fruiting the spawn jars? I was thinking of just letting them pin really good with the lids on and then open them up and keep them all in tote.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23786485 - 10/30/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks man!  That's exactly what I was thinking for the jars...Gr0wer might have some insight.


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Re: Mycfly's Big Reishi Grow [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23787567 - 10/31/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

love your grows keep it up! :smile:


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