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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: koods]
#23756223 - 10/20/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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logically though, i can't be taken down.
If x is about a mile from y, then they are about a mile everywhere if they are parallel and of the same length, and there is an infinite number of solutions in any other case.
Let z represent about a mile.
The solution is then the sum of the solutions in this problem.
z+infinity == infinity.  
we know from the problem that the two roads lie in a bounded continuous space.
therefore infinity is the answer.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: starfire_xes]
#23756252 - 10/20/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, the only reasonable statement one could make is to say that hill drive is no more than about a mile from Townsville street.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: starfire_xes]
#23756255 - 10/20/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ure pretty good starfire, koods was right, it wasn't really a math problem per se.. yet u were able to use math to come to a reasonable conclusion, the answer is infinite, that is to say u have an infinite amount of choices to choose from, could be anything really..
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: starfire_xes]
#23756257 - 10/20/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey, i already said that. i want the answer, not some philosophical mumbo jumbo about infinite positions!
"road x and road y provide space z, on a graph...where is the house on the said graph?
that gives the answer to where we are...then we can determine where the "mile" spoken of intersects with both streets, and acquire the distance (or space z) between the two streets, (ie, the answer)"
the answer can be definite and not infinite! so what is it! OH LORD JESUS! WHAT CAN IT BE?
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: zZZz]
#23756261 - 10/20/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: Ure pretty good starfire, koods was right, it wasn't really a math problem per se.. yet u were able to use math to come to a reasonable conclusion, the answer is infinite, that is to say u have an infinite amount of choices to choose from, could be anything really..

No, it's not infinite. The lower limit is 0 and the upper limit is about a mile.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: koods]
#23756269 - 10/20/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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how much follicles of hair are on my ass between cheek A and cheek B, koods? answer: there is an infinite z space of follicles, QED, koods likes butt.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: akira_akuma]
#23756275 - 10/20/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ure getting warmer Akira
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: zZZz]
#23756277 - 10/20/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: Ure pretty good starfire, koods was right, it wasn't really a math problem per se.. yet u were able to use math to come to a reasonable conclusion, the answer is infinite, that is to say u have an infinite amount of choices to choose from, could be anything really..
When you are given a problem like this in grad school, then you have to make assumptions and state what the assumptions are. As worded there are an infinite number of solutions.
you really can't assume that the problem lies in one plane, because the earth isn't flat. But you could assume that space is bounded and continuous, yet I have a feeling that is not a necessary condition for the solution.
Starting with advanced calculus they have problems like this but the answer you give is more about thought process than about anything else. As Koods pointed out, English in a word problem is critically important.
You know, there are a lot of problems like this in common core, and THAT is not the appropriate place to teach these kinds of problems.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: akira_akuma]
#23756289 - 10/20/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: how much follicles of hair are on my ass between cheek A and cheek B, koods? answer: there is an infinite z space of follicles, QED, koods likes butt.
There is no such such thing as infinite space between two points. A fixed length cannot be divided forever. There is a limit: the planck length.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: koods]
#23756301 - 10/20/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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this is only true when you do not have infinite buttcrack syndrome.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: akira_akuma]
#23756309 - 10/20/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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getting hot Akira..
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: koods]
#23756313 - 10/20/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said:
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akira_akuma said: how much follicles of hair are on my ass between cheek A and cheek B, koods? answer: there is an infinite z space of follicles, QED, koods likes butt.
There is no such such thing as infinite space between two points. A fixed length cannot be divided forever. There is a limit: the planck length.
One could create a virtual reality simulator on that aforementioned piece of ass and generate a infinite space within its confines.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: akira_akuma]
#23756317 - 10/20/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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the question is silly.
it should be phrased like such, if the answer called for was "infinite"...
there is a point A, how much space is there...end of question. answer: infinite, insofar as there isn't two points to calculate between, and finite, insofar as there is a limited space to travel in and around point A.
but trying to track down a point between spaces A & B, this is either attributed a specific answer (where the point is), or no particular answer, because of the assumption of inconclusive information. there is no real answer. i think this has been established.
can we get a less convoluted question?
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One could create a virtual reality simulator on that aforementioned piece of ass and generate a infinite space within its confines.
koods needs to do some non-standard anal-ysis.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: akira_akuma]
#23756346 - 10/20/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here is my answer,
The human mind is simple. Tis us who complicate things.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: koods]
#23756348 - 10/20/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: Ure pretty good starfire, koods was right, it wasn't really a math problem per se.. yet u were able to use math to come to a reasonable conclusion, the answer is infinite, that is to say u have an infinite amount of choices to choose from, could be anything really..

No, it's not infinite. The lower limit is 0 and the upper limit is about a mile.
so there are an infinite number of SOLUTIONS between
here is a solution .0000000001 mile.

Koods, how far apart are those two streets? There is an infinite number of solutions in the limit because there are an infinite number of points on each line. I make the assumption that we measure in a unbounded continuous plane, that is the best I can do.
if they were parallel, then the answer would be d if they are also the same length. So the solution is d+infinity.
you have no information at all that the boundary is about a mile.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: zZZz]
#23756358 - 10/20/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: getting hot for Koods Akira..?
Fixed it for ya Z.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: starfire_xes]
#23756380 - 10/20/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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1 = 0
solved.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: akira_akuma]
#23756410 - 10/20/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So can we all agree that the only answer is there are an unlimited number of SOLUTIONS to this problem as written?
It can't be solved is the kiddie answer.
And Koods, you should know that the Planck length wouldn't be used in a mathematics class when taking a limit. They might do that in a quantum physics class.
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: starfire_xes]
#23756425 - 10/20/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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if there is an infinite number of solutions, why can't you point one out? is it because the question is not addressing the call for a particular answer, and is addressing the need for a particular theorem to explain it?
because i think none of the above has been positively acquired, save with the exception of the postulate, 1 = 0 (ie, the answer is zero, the absence of a definite postulate, equals 1, which is code for "the answer".)
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Re: Understanding The Human Mind [Re: akira_akuma]
#23756439 - 10/20/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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think in terms of a solution set, not one answer.
if the roads are parallel and of the same length, and the house is about a mile the solution is about a mile.
In any other case, there is an infinite number of solutions as the problem is given. Therefore there is an infinite number of solutions.
Like I said, this is a 'Common Core' type of problem, and way too advanced for kids.
In the end, yes, that problem is poorly written.
But 'If a ball and a bat cost $1.10, and the bat costs one dollar more than the ball, how much is the ball'
That is a perfectly worded question.
Obviously if the bat is 1.00 more than the ball, they both don't cost 1.10. That was what pris first implied.
so if the bat and ball cost 1.10 then
ball cost + ball cost+1.00 =1.10
then 2x ball cost = .1
Simple, and a perfectly worded question.
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