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Lawnboy1185
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Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board?
#23755334 - 10/20/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm looking for real psychedelic explorers only in this thread. So many of these posts are crazy to me...like "should I eat mdma 48 hours after lsd"?....not ever trying to knock the noob, but coming from someone who candy flips on the regular, I feel like Im pushing the boundries a little more than some of these threads and Im just trying to find other people that take this serious.
Lets get some real discussion going. please post if you eat boomers at least once a month, and have blasted off a minimum of 10 times. I'm looking to share stories of the nexus, but I cant seem to find anyone on this board yet that really gets down.
and I could go all day about the pineal gland, chakras, energy fields, consciousness..etc
Me personally....I'm a huge mckenna buff...and my favorite thing to do is blast off as I get to the close of my psycociban trips.
Lets hear it!
Edited by Lawnboy1185 (10/21/16 06:34 AM)
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23755390 - 10/20/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Home made :
Passion Flower Extract Tincture (MAOI activity) 1200mg + Kava Kava Extract Tincture (mild entheogenic sedative w/ rhizome kavelectones) 1500mg + Psilocybe Cubensis Amazonian : 5 grams dried (personal cultivated) and pulverized of the small potent ones for most actives. + Cannabis Sativa/Indica Tincture: 20mg. + Poppy Pod extract Tincture: 50-100mg morphine/ 100mg codeine / thebaine ? + Matcha Ceremonial Green Tea Powder, , rosehip, lemongrass, cinnamon, chamomile, peppermint, jasmine , anise seed, ginger root, orange peel, orange oil. ( helps with nausea and possible potentiation interactions and taste)
+ Acai Honey / Vanilla Extract / Dash of Cream
+ 2 cups of natural filtered water brought to boil in which all above ingredients are blended and allowed to homogenize as much as possible.
That is a ceremonial brew. Unlocking most the doors together and then using sitting meditation to drop both body and mind and the fetters of existence while holding onto nothing.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185] 3
#23755429 - 10/20/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lawnboy1185 said: I'm looking for real psychedelic explorers only in this thread. So many of these posts are crazy to me...like "should I eat mdma 48 hours after lsd"?....not ever trying to knock the noob, but coming from someone who candy flips on the regular, I feel a little evolved from some of these threads.
Lets get some real discussion going. please post if you eat boomers at least once a month, and have blasted off a minimum of 10 times. I'm looking to share stories of the nexus, but I cant seem to find anyone on this board yet that really gets down.
and I could go all day about the pineal gland, chakras, energy fields, consciousness..etc
Me personally....I'm a huge mckenna buff...and my favorite thing to do is blast off as I get to the close of my psycociban trips.
Lets hear it!
Taking LSD and mushrooms hundred of times, and smoking through dozens of grams of DMT has taught me that I'm not more "evolved" than anybody. A person who has never tripped is just as "enlightened" as I am. 
I love Terence McKenna and he talked a lot about the concept of how nobody is any better than anybody else because we are all one consciousness experiencing the illusion of separation. Anybody who's ever taken psychedelics is a "real psychedelic explorer," and taking bigger doses or having taken more doses than somebody else doesn't make you better.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23755446 - 10/20/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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WeAreMushroom is right.
I think it's just that you can't tell other people what to do or that they should trip or trip more or at higher doses or anything.
Each individual has to make their own choices with Psychedelics.
I only trip on Heroic doses though. Unless I'm tripping with other people, which I usually don't do.
Mushrooms, LSD, 4-aco-dmt, 2cb, DMT... Trip once a week or every other week. Always a heroic dose. Love the mushrooms/4-aco-dmt?DMT state.
MDMA is actually what I've recently fallen in love with though. More useful and amazing then I thought it would be. Can't wait to HippyFlip in December!
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23755466 - 10/20/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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WeAreMushroom said:
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Lawnboy1185 said: I'm looking for real psychedelic explorers only in this thread. So many of these posts are crazy to me...like "should I eat mdma 48 hours after lsd"?....not ever trying to knock the noob, but coming from someone who candy flips on the regular, I feel a little evolved from some of these threads.
Lets get some real discussion going. please post if you eat boomers at least once a month, and have blasted off a minimum of 10 times. I'm looking to share stories of the nexus, but I cant seem to find anyone on this board yet that really gets down.
and I could go all day about the pineal gland, chakras, energy fields, consciousness..etc
Me personally....I'm a huge mckenna buff...and my favorite thing to do is blast off as I get to the close of my psycociban trips.
Lets hear it!
Taking LSD and mushrooms hundred of times, and smoking through dozens of grams of DMT has taught me that I'm not more "evolved" than anybody. A person who has never tripped is just as "enlightened" as I am. 
I love Terence McKenna and he talked a lot about the concept of how nobody is any better than anybody else because we are all one consciousness experiencing the illusion of separation. Anybody who's ever taken psychedelics is a "real psychedelic explorer," and taking bigger doses or having taken more doses than somebody else doesn't make you better.
There is no other. Is what psychedelics allowed my own mind to reveal to itself . A common thing it appears, so doubt that makes me or anyone else that much more evoled if it all. Evolution - maybe if u trip enough youl grow a few tails
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23755490 - 10/20/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I consider myself a real psychedelic explorer, although my main interest is in what i call atypical psychedelics like amanita muscaria and salvia divinorum. I do love psilocybin mushrooms though and have done them about 20 something times.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23755491 - 10/20/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23755548 - 10/20/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why do you like the atypical psychedelics?
I've always wanted to try Salvia.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: mctaveesh]
#23755606 - 10/20/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salvia is so other worldy to me, it changes the senses so rapidly its incredible. Iv had some unexplainable hallucinations that were group shared on it that frankly defy all explanation atleast to my limited knowledge. To bad i cant get it easily any more.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23755696 - 10/20/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's not a good approach in life to gauge people's relative 'realness' in relation to their suseptibility to your opinions upon various philosophical or pseudo-science concepts.
I guarantee you there is a great deal more users more experienced than yourself, even so never discount the experiences of anyone no matter their level of familiarity. Not everyone needs a psychedelic career to be aware of whatever knowledge some seem to expect to come with a certain amount of psychedelia.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: mctaveesh]
#23756324 - 10/20/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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mctaveesh said: Why do you like the atypical psychedelics?
I've always wanted to try Salvia.
As much as I love traditional psychedelics, I feel like they have some distinct disadvantages (for instance unpredictability, tolerance, excess stimulation, abuse potential, anxiety, mania, the need for proper set and setting, after effects) which aren't often talked about. I think knowledge of other teacher and healer plants which can be used in addition to or instead of traditional psychedelics is a very valuable. I also think it's fascinating to compare the headspaces and lessons these substances provide with those of traditional psychedelics.
I also like the fact that they are in a sense uncharted territory. Much has been written about LSD, mescaline and psilocybin but quality information on the entheogenic use of amanita muscaria and salvia is still quite rare.
Edited by Peyote Road (10/20/16 10:04 PM)
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23756684 - 10/21/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, ive done mescaline in cactus form about 35 times, and 2C-E or 4-aco-dmt together or separately (or 2C-P) about 30 times.
And I had a monster 900ug acid trip. i mean we are talking the nitty-gritty, hard core, I'm dying and the world's coming to and end I'm never coming back because my head is melting trip.
Does that qualify?
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: starfire_xes]
#23756866 - 10/21/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been known to trip on ocassion on various substances here and there....
I'm really starting to like what I see in mescaline I hope I can slow down dosing to get good lessons from mescaline when she does find me
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185] 1
#23757007 - 10/21/16 05:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lawnboy1185 said: I feel a little evolved from some of these threads.
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I'm a huge mckenna buff...
Lose the ego buddy and instead try just posting an interesting thread. You think this thread is going to get old heads crawling out of the cracks like "finally someone who gets it"? I've blasted off around 50 times, have taken breakthrough doses of ayahuasca in ceremony, chased around too many novel RC psychedelics and dissociatives, regularly attend psychedelic festivals like regional burns and whatever. And goddammit i know for fact after being on this site for so damned long that there are plenty of people here who have gone down that rabbit hole farther than I have. I have heard some absolutely crazy stories on here from the same people who like moths drawn to a flame can't seem to get enough. Noobs make the most threads because noobs have the most questions. That's part of being a noob. We all go through it. There's only so much you can say about this stuff. Most experienced people eventually move on to other forums. But if you legitimately have something interesting to talk about just post it and let that be the gauge of what people actually think of your stories. If it's good enough you'll see plenty of experienced people pop by and share their thoughts
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#23757094 - 10/21/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol, look at all the hate. Just trying to find other people out there that have also been the jungles of peru, or spent time with the entities.
It aint a competition, more looking for stories.
lately, Ive been entering the world of cards, and jester archetypes, and jokers....this is all sub break through. Anyone else been to this stage of the source field?
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23757099 - 10/21/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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And there is a direct correlation between the amount of psychedelic experiences and consciousness evolution and enlightenment.
Edited by Lawnboy1185 (10/21/16 06:21 AM)
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23757104 - 10/21/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I personally like to blast off a few hours into my psylociban trips.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: mctaveesh]
#23757109 - 10/21/16 06:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hipppy flipping is the best combo... My favorite of all the combinations
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23757117 - 10/21/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you just baiting people??
If we are here we love our psychedelics and you know that. Shame on you.
But while we are at it. Dimitri is the way.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: IAMNOTALLAMA]
#23757120 - 10/21/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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IAMNOTALLAMA said: Are you just baiting people??
If we are here we love our psychedelics and you know that. Shame on you.
But while we are at it. Dimitri is the way.
Shame on me?!?! For trying to meet other people that take psychadelics as serious as I do...and dont just do it to do it.
This is pretty much the reason I dont post on here and only use it as a mycology reference point. The internet (and internet by anonminity is a fickle place). Everyones got something to say
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Edited by Lawnboy1185 (10/21/16 06:38 AM)
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23757131 - 10/21/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yo, I will be your friend if you need one.

Edit: Uhm as in someone you can talk to; Not someone who will send things to you...
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Edited by IAMNOTALLAMA (10/21/16 06:55 AM)
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23757132 - 10/21/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dont see it as being more "serious" than another user who may not dose so high or combine drugs. We all take from our experiences, sometimes people dont need to dose super high or have mind melting experiences to gather what they seek in their experiences.
Also, I agree DMT is the way.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23757155 - 10/21/16 07:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have no problem with your quest. It's just you used a very pretentious sounding writing style though I see you've edited some of that out. Anyways, as i said those folks are here. One of the things about being a public forum is that you're sort of responsible for making it what it is. Anyone in good faith is welcome and that includes a lot of newbies. But should you post content you think would appeal to the deep and frequent explorers you will probably get feedback. If you're looking for something a little more intentional and exclusive you might enjoy the DMT-nexus more. That is where i go for more serious conversation on the phenomenology of the psychedelic experience, philosophy, energetics, whatever
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#23757190 - 10/21/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if you're referring to my post?
I hope I diddnt sound pretentious. I feel that everyone has different levels at wich they want to reach in their trips. Some like to go far out there while others like to have mild trips, but can still gather the same feeling of importance from each experience. I agree DMT is the more serious realms of exploration. It doesnt have the novelty to it that LSD or mushrooms can have. Its a very real experience most of the time. Lower doses can have recreational value and you can enjoy the beautiful visuals but mostly its a very serious experience that words cant do justice explaining.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23757252 - 10/21/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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@SonicTitan, all your posts have been nice, reasonable, and informative. I'm still pretty sure OP is trying to bait people into arguments. Like really: " Are there any *real* psychedelic explorers [here]".
He did say he wanted stories. Here is one. I was afraid I was going to fall off the earth once on acid. On shrooms, I was once in a chapel, getting sung monk hymns. On mescaline, I petted a deer (in reality).
Edit: And @JacksonMetaller, I didn't mean to sound like a dick. I do apologize. I just really like my deemsters and feel that they have have had a profound effect on my life in a way that other things haven't. I make edits to clarify
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Edited by IAMNOTALLAMA (10/21/16 08:17 AM)
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: IAMNOTALLAMA]
#23757277 - 10/21/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea I guess it kinda does come off like OP is trying to ruffle feathers.
One time I kept packing bowls of DMT one after another because I wanted to breakthrough. I was getting the over emcompassing visuals but not "leaving: after the 3rd one tho I lifted off but instead of the a typical breakthrough of entities and weird outerdimensional worlds I was transported into the mind of a woman who was frightened and scared and hiding in my childhood home where I grew up. It felt like all my insecurities,fears, doubts, loss that I hold inside were embodied in this woman and the house I grew up in were the boarders that my ego builds over time. It felt like strips of myself were shedding off of me and I was left with raw emotion and was flooded with everything I hold inside. This was all visually shown through the eyes of this woman, hiding in fear in a dark room of my old home. It almost was telling me to come to terms wit hthings I cant let go of which I should in order to progress and grow as a person. I dont know tho.. .Its so hard explaining as well as interprating your experiences. I want to go back to that state so I may learn more of myself.
I also thought I was a tree while on mushrooms
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23757360 - 10/21/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i used to be a real psychedelic explorer.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23757403 - 10/21/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We're all noobs here.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23757725 - 10/21/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol not you guys! I was referring to OP. Sorry i always use quick reply. I concur DMT is the bees knees
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#23757823 - 10/21/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I really suggest having a spotter even if you know your shit. Three drags and to hold em. IDK, for me, it helps for them to count out till ten loud till you breath out maybe three times and for them to get the fuck out. No music, no nothing. Outside stimulus hurts.
I remember when I got my first gram, I had a friend who was a real loud mouth; Kept telling him to shut up as I dosed ppl. Finally got to him. All he had to say was "I understand now, I'm sorry"
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: IAMNOTALLAMA]
#23757848 - 10/21/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Large doses of Mushrooms or LSD are just as insane as smoked DMT imo, you get an intense experience with DMT because you need to take enough to breakthrough, if everyone brokethrough on LSD or Mushrooms it's practically the same message(40mg of dmt is the same as 5-7g of mushrooms/400ug LSD) of course this is just my opinion, and the experiences if the drugs are different from one another, the message in the end not so much. Moral of the story you don't need to breakthrough on smoked DMT to get off, you can leave your body on Psilocybin or LSD as well
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23758091 - 10/21/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't like having spotters with DMT. I've honestly never had an issue with the substance. Its always been the most benign in my experience
Eclipse, I have no doubt the experiences are just as crazy, but even at low doses i find DMT to be the most characteristically distinct of all psychedelics. Also I don't use DMT to "go deep" in the sense that I use other psychedelics. Diving down that deep with other psychedelics brings it's own kind of baggage that can be extraordinarily difficult to navigate. DMT itself becomes a totally different experience when you draw it out over 4 hours. I've done it with Ayahuasca and I have no doubt mushrooms and LSD would take me to the same place but i simply have no desire for that and to be honest that is something most people are going to struggle to tolerate. DMT on the other hand I could probably do on a regular basis and have successfully introduced it to a lot of people. I would certainly take Ayahuasca again in ceremony at that kind of level, but that's it. That sort of experience requires serious commitment, intention, and safety in regards to set and setting. Anyone who willy nilly goes that deep is playing with fire. And fires not a bad thing obviously. But it's its own beast and deserves a level of respect and humility should you wish to form a lasting relationship with it
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#23758123 - 10/21/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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People think it's weird when I say that I find DMT and Mushrooms much easier to do than LSD or 2CB.
In taking High doses of each of those Psychedelics, mushrooms and DMT have always been the most loving, forgiving, and beautiful.
While LSD and 2CB would often make me feel like total crap because they would force me to see a bunch of stuff about myself that I didn't like... Way more than Mushrooms or DMT ever would.
I've had LSD trips that ripped me apart. And veryyy High-dose 2CB trips that made me see extremely uncomfortable things about myself that I just could hardly even bare.
But I've done full 50-60mg DMT trips at least 50 times now. And even the worst of those experiences were not so bad. Just sort of uncomfortable. But never absolutely frightening like LSD was for me personally.
I feel like DMT/Mushrooms don't hold up a direct mirror to my own mind/psyche like LSD does. It's more of a collective, beautiful, becoming one with the universe kinda thing.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23758235 - 10/21/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lawnboy1185 said: And there is a direct correlation between the amount of psychedelic experiences and consciousness evolution and enlightenment.
I agree that tripping a couple of times is not the same as really exploring these substances over time. its possible to trip several times without ever really breaking through or being deeply challenged.
Of course Im not saying there aren't people who find God on their first mushroom trip and of course there are plenty of spiritual people who dont use psychedelics at all.
But I think the OP is right that there is a correlation between having gone really far with psychedelics and conscious evolution.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23758306 - 10/21/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lawnboy1185 said: I'm looking for real psychedelic explorers only in this thread. So many of these posts are crazy to me...like "should I eat mdma 48 hours after lsd"?....not ever trying to knock the noob, but coming from someone who candy flips on the regular, I feel like Im pushing the boundries a little more than some of these threads and Im just trying to find other people that take this serious.
Lets get some real discussion going. please post if you eat boomers at least once a month, and have blasted off a minimum of 10 times. I'm looking to share stories of the nexus, but I cant seem to find anyone on this board yet that really gets down.
and I could go all day about the pineal gland, chakras, energy fields, consciousness..etc
Me personally....I'm a huge mckenna buff...and my favorite thing to do is blast off as I get to the close of my psycociban trips.
Lets hear it!
I've tried LSD a few times and psilocybin over 100. MDMA after LSD sounds stupid and would likely only result in further sleep deprivation.
Stories of the 'nexus'? If you want to have a serious discussion about entheogens and their effect on human behaviour then there is no room for mysticism.
The society we live in has emerged through the development of technology and science. In the past humans thought that thunder was caused by Thor because they were simply ignorant and did not know the mechanisms behind the natural phenomena they were experiencing.
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To say that consciousness/conscience have origins in mysticism is as ignorant as humans have been in the past, if there is any explanation of the origin of consciousness/conscience and the human experience, it lies within the sciences of evolution, biology and physics.
The only thing I agree with Terrence Mckenna on is that the anxiolytic properties of psilocybin likely influenced the evolution of the conscience.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly]
#23758349 - 10/21/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im new to the boards but have been a Space Explorer since 1987 white blotters or white lightning as they were called, the big thing i miss is what was called Microdots, never a dull moment when flying on one of those, black microdots £2.50 was the cry at Glastonbury for many a year, the visuals for 12 hours. recently ive taken to 2CB that just lifts the level of everything, I do MDMA/ecstasy plus 2CB at festivals/raves, recently tried DMT and will be following that route further. I ate a Christopher Columbus choccy bar at Boomtown which enabled me to see the wings of a Saw Bee moving in slow motion and i saw the air waves beat out with each wing movement,amazing.
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#23758353 - 10/21/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We're all "real psychedelic explorers" (whatever that means).
Using more often doesn't somehow make you more "real" or "authentic." In fact, it's normally only noobs who use the most frequently. Experienced people know to put as long as you can between doses. Plus most really experienced users are all grown up and have jobs and families and can't be tripping every weekend because they have responsibilities and lead responsible lives.
Another funny thing about this thread is the number of noobs who are trying to jump on the "I'm a real psychedelic explorer" train while all the actual old experienced psychedelic users I've seen in this thread so far have criticized OP's original post. See this is another difference between noobs and experienced people: experienced people don't need your or anyone else's approval to know how experienced they are.
Anyone can do LSD 100 times in a single year. It costs as little as $200-$300 to do so. But actually doing so does not make you an experienced psychedelic user. It makes you a noob.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: nooneman]
#23758377 - 10/21/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Using more often doesn't somehow make you more "real" or "authentic." In fact, it's normally only noobs who use the most frequently. Experienced people know to put as long as you can between doses. Plus most really experienced users are all grown up and have jobs and families and can't be tripping every weekend because they have responsibilities and lead responsible lives.

14 days between doses is pretty good. Don't dose on a workday.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly]
#23758437 - 10/21/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Even dosing every two weeks you're going to lose the magic. The best way to do it for maximum quality and maximum effect is to dose a couple of times a year at high or very high doses.
But of course I'm no puritan. Even I use more frequently than that, but I understand that it would be a much better experience if I stuck to a schedule like that more religiously than I do. Even so, I try to only really binge once a year and then go largely dry for the rest of the year.
I only use maybe 4-10 times a year with most of that grouped into a space of 2-3 months, and then a few sessions dotting the remaining 9-10 months. This might go up if I acquire new RCs, or down if I haven't bought anything new in a while. Inevitably, the sessions at the middle and the end of the binge are shitty compared to the sessions I have when I've waited a month or more.
And if I wait a whole year, mother of god I get amazing effects. All my best and most memorable trips have happened after my longest periods of abstinence from psychedelics.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: nooneman]
#23758457 - 10/21/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The only way to lose the magic is to have a strong tolerance and bad mental vibes.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly] 2
#23758488 - 10/21/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dosing every couple of weeks is enough to build up that tolerance over time. I lost the magic. Took over 2 years off, and the magic returned. These days the less the better. More then a few times a year, and the novelty/magic diminishes again. Also, I agree fully with nooneman's posts above. Being a psychedelic explorer has nothing to do with how much or how often one doses. Also, the amount of psychedelic experiences is not the way to consciousness evolution & enlightenment. Some people get things out of their experiences, and others don't. Frankly, dosing all the time is more likely to just turn people into whacked out spunions. I thought I was evolving my consciousness & on the path to enlightenment when I was dosing all the time. In reality I was a whacked out spunion. I learned some important things, but a lot of what went through my head was delusional. My consciousness evolved when stopped doing drugs all the time & focused on life. As far as enlightenment, that's a dream. I've met many people, and have yet to meet anyone that's achieved a permanent state of enlightenment. I've had more moments where it all came together then I can count. But it all fades in time, and life is fluid. Things change & we evolve.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23758571 - 10/21/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think being a psychedelic explorer is indicated by how well you can manage yourself whilst tripping and remaining responsible/safe.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly]
#23758715 - 10/21/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hay sudly, not to make fun, but as a scientist, your graph is shit. It is based in reality no doubt, but obviously no actual data points were collected. Sorry bruh, disinformation really bugs me.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: IAMNOTALLAMA]
#23758733 - 10/21/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's a basic example of tolerance, obviously it'll be different for every individual because there are numerous biological and psychological variables.
If you have better information could you share it?
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly]
#23759026 - 10/21/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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To say that consciousness/conscience have origins in mysticism is as ignorant as humans have been in the past, if there is any explanation of the origin of consciousness/conscience and the human experience, it lies within the sciences of evolution, biology and physics.
The only thing I agree with Terrence Mckenna on is that the anxiolytic properties of psilocybin likely influenced the evolution of the conscience.
These are nothing more than your opinions. What makes you even think the goal of mysticism is to provide an explanation of the origin of consciousness?
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23759047 - 10/21/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think that is the goal of mysticism and I don't think mysticism can answer the question of the origin of 'consciousness'. I think the goal of mysticism is to explore your imagination.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23759059 - 10/21/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Dosing every couple of weeks is enough to build up that tolerance over time. I lost the magic. Took over 2 years off, and the magic returned. These days the less the better. More then a few times a year, and the novelty/magic diminishes again. Also, I agree fully with nooneman's posts above. Being a psychedelic explorer has nothing to do with how much or how often one doses. Also, the amount of psychedelic experiences is not the way to consciousness evolution & enlightenment. Some people get things out of their experiences, and others don't. Frankly, dosing all the time is more likely to just turn people into whacked out spunions. I thought I was evolving my consciousness & on the path to enlightenment when I was dosing all the time. In reality I was a whacked out spunion. I learned some important things, but a lot of what went through my head was delusional. My consciousness evolved when stopped doing drugs all the time & focused on life. As far as enlightenment, that's a dream. I've met many people, and have yet to meet anyone that's achieved a permanent state of enlightenment. I've had more moments where it all came together then I can count. But it all fades in time, and life is fluid. Things change & we evolve.
How do you know you're not enlightened? You say you haven't met anyone who has achieved a permanent state of enlightenment. That implies that not only do you know what enlightenment is but you also must have some kind of test to determine whether the people you meet are, or are not enlightened.
I am curious how you make such determinations, especially if you think enlightenment is a dream.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly]
#23759079 - 10/21/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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sudly said: I don't think that is the goal of mysticism and I don't think mysticism can answer the question of the origin of 'consciousness'. I think the goal of mysticism is to explore your imagination.
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Mysticism: belief that union with or absorption into the Deity or the absolute, or the spiritual apprehension of knowledge inaccessible to the intellect, may be attained through contemplation and self-surrender.
The difference between mysticism and sciences like physics is that physics deals largely with theoretical and mathematical truths which might hold great meaning to people with a keen interest in physics but lack the resonance of truth on emotional level. Mysticism is more about tuning into the truth of our experience, for which we do not need to be good a math or have elaborate laboratory equipment. The human psyche can be explored through stories, mythologies, parables just as much as it can be explored through scientific knowledge. ANd the latter arguably is more relevant to the life of your average person, who may not care a whole lot about the properties of electrons but cares a great deal about their own emotional state.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23759091 - 10/21/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had more moments where it all came together then I can count
That doesn't fade in my eyes.  All I need to believe is that conscience results from a repeated temporary relative paralysis of the sympathetic nervous system catalyzed by the anxiolytic properties of entheogens like psilocybin.
Don't forget that according to some mysticism sperm is made in the spine.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly]
#23759101 - 10/21/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You may not care about electrons but if you care about your life you should care about the length of the telomeres on your chromosomes because they are indicative of your lifespan.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly]
#23759119 - 10/21/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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But the fungus does take a route in me to guide whom I hold in sublime jurisdiction. The conscience it wakes, shaking off sleepy dreams, to set off and take on unfinished business.
^ That is all psychedelics/entheogens catalyze for me, and I am grateful for it.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: sudly]
#23759145 - 10/21/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had more moments where it all came together then I can count
That doesn't fade in my eyes.  All I need to believe is that conscience results from a repeated temporary relative paralysis of the sympathetic nervous system catalyzed by the anxiolytic properties of entheogens like psilocybin.
Don't forget that according to some mysticism sperm is made in the spine. 
I find some of your theories very interesting. Can you elaborate on how you arrived at this conclusion? If this is true, what about cultures like the eskimo who did not use psychedelics? SHouldnt they have under developed consciences?
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23759202 - 10/21/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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- Animals eat magic mushrooms.
 - Magic mushrooms contain anxyiolytics(psilocybin) and work on the serotonergic system. - They act as an agonist on the sympathetic nervous system both stimulating and inhibiting it which numbs it. - The sympathetic nervous system governs the fight or flight response - Numbing the fight or flight response removes 'gut instinct' and allows for focused perception.

Eskimos practiced shamanism too.
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#23759610 - 10/21/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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sudly said: - Animals eat magic mushrooms.
 - Magic mushrooms contain anxyiolytics(psilocybin) and work on the serotonergic system. - They act as an agonist on the sympathetic nervous system both stimulating and inhibiting it which numbs it. - The sympathetic nervous system governs the fight or flight response - Numbing the fight or flight response removes 'gut instinct' and allows for focused perception.

Eskimos practiced shamanism too.
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Examples of traditional entheogens include: peyote, psilocybin mushrooms, uncured tobacco, cannabis, ayahuasca, Salvia divinorum, Tabernanthe iboga, Ipomoea tricolor, and Amanita muscaria.
Brilliant theory. I would consider this theory to be a form of esoteric theory because it deals with the inner workings of the nervous system. For me, mysticism is about whatever is true about life be it in the field of natural science, mysticism, philosophy, religion, etc.
My only criticism for your theory would be, could other factors also be coming into play in the process of developing what you call conscience? Perhaps psilocybin mushrooms are not playing as large a role as they appear, despite having an important role.
Btw, I saw that picture of the fox eating the magic mushroom on the soma shaman's website. Have you tried amanaita muscaria?
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23759618 - 10/21/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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When psilocybin is metalobised into psilocin the chemical structure mimics the serotonin molecule, in essence the active ingredient of magic mushrooms is a serotonin neurotransmitter.
I've only had psilocybes.
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#23760437 - 10/22/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlightenment is specifically drawn out in ancient traditions such as Buddhism. A state of enlightenment is lasting, and would permanently detach someone from the dramas of life. That's something I've never seen. Again, I've had plenty of experiences where it all came together; experiences that people would call enlightenment. But the reality is that little to nothing actually changed, it didn't bring lasting peace & understanding, and the experience always faded. This idea of taking something & finding enlightenment is a pipe dream.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Psychedelics just open the door for you, it's up to you to walk through. They are teachers in essence until you learn enough from them for you to become the teacher
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They can teach you about yourself. Anything else is up for debate. I've been a part of the psychedelic culture for a long time, and the reality is that the majority of people I've come across that are spunions are delusional, maladjusted & have myriad issues. Myself being one of them at the time. All the massive doses & religious experiences & work I did spreading the love didn't stop me from destroying myself with hard drugs. It didn't cure the discontent in my soul. It didn't bring me lasting peace & healing. I began to heal when I stopped looking for the answer in drugs. And it's an ongoing process. I have my ups & downs, am somewhat in a down right now. Though my ups & downs are now are nothing like they used to be. Waves compared to rollercoasters..... When you think it all figured out, you don't know shit. When you realize that you'll never have it all figured out.....and are ok with that, that's when you're starting to figure it out.
The folks that don't take it all that seriously & don't do it all the time are the ones that have actually reaped benefits that can be seen in their daily lives. The shit we experience while tripping are possibilities, not facts. Too many people on this forum take these experiences as gospel, and they're not. There's good stuff to found within, but also a lot of crazy shit that's delusion. You have to sift through it & practice with a questioning attitude or else you'll lose your shit.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Dark_Star]
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enlightenment is the easts version of the wests salvation for the commoner its to keep them coming back and give them long term hope, for the uncorrupted monastic its living out the revelatory wisdom of the awakened ones throughtout the ages in every single moment of daily life - "the practice" .
I have done time in the monastery, psychedelics can show you things about yourself that you would find out regardless if you had a strict wisdom tradition that was practiced daily in a spartan like environment.
I have seen the real deal in others, and only glimpsed it in my own life for short times. Some do truly live it - but guess what they arent shouting on the roof tops, nor are they on the forums, their out there doing it - you can find 1 if you try hard enough. Most likly you wont because they are far from normal society living within nature experiencing the natural mystical state daily.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23762055 - 10/22/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm a little bit pressed for time at the moment (because I'm getting ready to trip tonight, after doing it twice during this past week), but I have tripped easily over 250 times in the past 6 years and regularly do more than 5g each time, many times WAY more.
I went through a phase of experiencing adverse symptoms such as anxiety, muscle spasms, etc... but I came to learn that these negative symptoms were due to tons of buried mental/spiritual/emotional baggage coming to the surface and being resolved. Those negative symptoms no longer happen.
After learning how to tense all of my muscles and sit still to alleviate the bad symptoms I began to include yoga and rituals such as the Lesser Banishing Ritual Of The Pentagram, Resh vel Helios, and practicing The Bornless Ritual as well as reading thelemic holy books out loud. This has helped immensely but much of this is very personal and needs to be learned/experienced on an individual level because understanding comes with a shift in consciousness, so stating some things plainly often goes right over people's heads or leaves them shocked. Out of everything I have learned I can say that I have invented nothing and everything I do has been published, if that may help the curious to investigate.
As far as "losing the magic" with frequent dosing, my experience proves that to not always be true. In regards to myself, that is possibly because of a physical detox/cleansing that was triggered that has been ongoing for several years, unfortunately that's not one of the things I can openly discuss. Often progress has been made by first having a trip where a bunch of old baggage/guilt etc... is brought to the surface and let go followed by another one the next day where progress can be made after the psychic waters have been cleared. And my tolerance most definitely goes way back down after two weeks, even sooner.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: blckmynnse8]
#23762482 - 10/22/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm so real up in this shit.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#23762495 - 10/22/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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not me, I wish but I ain't got the discipline or the balls to go really out there my primary concern is comfort and sadly psychedelics are NOT comfortable
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Ezuma]
#23762525 - 10/22/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: not me, I wish but I ain't got the discipline or the balls to go really out there my primary concern is comfort and sadly psychedelics are NOT comfortable
You are an explorer if you take some.
also, "any real psychedelic explorers on this board?" is the most annoying thread title ever.
... I bet there is quite a few people here who are psychedelic explorers.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: dankbark]
#23762536 - 10/22/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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well okay but I only explore the kiddie pool of the nether realms, I'd say. Maybe I'll change that, but I'm too allergic of pain for my own good
a big mushrooms dose might fix me
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Ezuma]
#23762580 - 10/22/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some people are at least 3 times as sensitive to these kinds of highly psychedelic drugs.
Some people don't consider 2 grams of cub mushrooms to be a full trip. For me 3.5 is "super high" on mushrooms. Not a high even really, just well beyond "high".
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: dankbark]
#23762594 - 10/22/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmm, I know virtually everyone I know who trips gets way more visuals out of it than me, its sad cus I really want to see things, but it almost never happens. Mostly I just get nauseous and anxious and convince myself not to trip for a few months, then I try again, and repeat the process. I probably just need a real solid dose to properly punch through
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#23762646 - 10/22/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm looking for real psychedelic explorers only in this thread.
And yet you talk about boomers, chakras, and the pineal gland with apparent seriousness 
Just kidding, although I do think that 'real psychedelic exploration' should involve more thought than simply taking a lot of drugs, watching Terence Mckenna videos, and accepting uncritically every dubious new-age theory that comes along. But yes, I do like interesting discussions and I agree they can sometimes be a bit thin on the ground among the typical "should I drink a gallon of ayahuasca for my first trip?" type questions.
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I'm looking to share stories of the nexus
Well, this is the Shroomery, not the DMT Nexus, but I'll do my best if you want to talk about shroom experiences....
I wouldn't regard myself as a psychonaut exactly; I'm a bit too old to muster the enthusiasm to start hippyflipping or experimenting with DMT and so on, but a psychedelic explorer....yes, possibly. (Entities? I don't want the fuckers I'm seeing on mushrooms to come any closer, thanks. Too many tentacles. Too many teeth).
Years back I studied philosophy and was especially interested in the philosophy of mind, so my trips are in some ways the experimental side of that line of thought. I might be tripping in an anonymous room somewhere, but as far as I'm concerned it's an adventure, an experiment; I feel like a 19th century explorer penetrating the jungles of the mind. Sometimes I think I should wear a safari jacket, just to get into character 
I concentrate on psilocybin and I trip roughly 8 times a year at the moment, aiming for the very interesting zone of dosage where you become somewhat delusional but you are still lucid enough to hold a pen, and you write your way through the trip.....
Sometimes I dose a bit too high and the usual result is that I "become God" or end up in scenarios where I'm convinced that I'm dead and that real life is part of some experiment by aliens to recreate ancient lifeforms and study them inside an artificial reality....stuff like that.
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It aint a competition, more looking for stories.
Well quite, but many stories on here are simply of the form "I took drugs X and Y at insane dose Z and it was too crazy to really tell you anything informative about it". I'm trying to practice writing at fairly high dose levels, where you are still capable of describing what you are seeing and thinking, that's my particular interest.
And is anyone genuinely interested in the stories? Really? I haven't posted many trip reports recently partly because the majority of trip reports get very few views unless they mention insane doses or have a particularly grandiose title; I think people are browsing on phones and are more interested in a short snappy boast about how big the dose was.
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not ever trying to knock the noob, but coming from someone who candy flips on the regular, I feel like Im pushing the boundries a little more than some of these threads and Im just trying to find other people that take this serious.
Yes a lot of posts on here are from noobs, but to be honest I like their genuine enthusiasm to trip - the fascination they have with their initial explorations brings back memories of my own experiences, and their minds haven't yet been fogged by the credulous acceptance of large amounts of bullshit.
It can be a good way of clarifying your own ideas if you have to explain a trip to someone who has pushed open a door in their mind and wants to know what will happen if they go through it. Also, if you concentrate on explaining a trip to someone, it does start to bring back a lot of trippy memories and feelings, which is nice if you don't get to trip as often as you would like.
There is a lot of experience on this board, sometimes it may feel as though its just a repeat of the same noob questions over and over again in this forum, but there are people lurking in the background with interesting ideas and a lot of experience. There's no point me swaggering around trying to pretend to be the ultimate psychonaut because I know damn well there are people who have seen and done it all and just don't really feel the need to post that often on this particular forum.
If you are interested in stories of the extremes of exploration, take a look at some of the posts and threads I linked here - Horror Trip Reports
One thing I realised after tripping a lot is that the 'point of no return' that used to scare me on my first few trips, is almost now more like a 'base camp' for my explorations. That horrible place of writhing, fluorescent insanity you sometimes reach on your first few trips? ..... Better get used to it if you intend to dose high regularly.
As for a little story to demonstrate my current style of tripping -
I tripped (on sclerotia) last week, and a few days before that I'd watched Lars Von Trier's 1991 film "Europa" (the trailer is excellent in its own right, as well as giving a flavour of the film).
The start of the film itself contains a hypnotic voiceover counting from one to ten, talking about waking up on a train in Germany in the year 1945, and somehow this idea wove itself into my trip until it seemed real. I became convinced that I would wake up the next day and it would be 1945....
As the trip spiraled further beyond where I intended it to go, I became convinced that I was God, that I had exited the entire universe and was fighting to get back in, literally fighting hand-to-hand with horrible creatures, and then bargaining my way back in to this universe.
By that point I think I'd fallen asleep or otherwise lost consciousness and was basically negotiating my trip through a kind of lucid dream - it wasn't any kind of transcendent ego death experience, it was just mental, endless thought loops, as if the universe was a giant library and I had to read all the books before I could stop tripping.
Later, while I was still tripping I was explaining the multiple universes to myself, with two cushions pushed together, saying "this is one universe, and I've crossed over to this one" or something like that. It all made perfect sense at the time.
I tripped two days later on quite a substantial dose, and my CEV were all burnt-out like someone had nuked the interior of my mind. It was a very good lucid trip for writing though; during the previous trip the desk had looked a lot like a ship, so I was following the journey of this ship and writing a story as I went along. If you cultivate the right mood and the right dose, the ideas just come right on down from nowhere onto the page....
So that's where I am in my psychedelic explorations after fifty-something trips, each with its own peculiar journal....
"I have seen the machines. The machines that will come. And they are beautiful."
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Aldebaran]
#23762794 - 10/22/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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How can you explore what is not? We are all merely psychedelic wanderers.
Exploring the ineffable sounds more like you could actually plot out the terrain of the psychedelic experience, IMO we can do our best to describe it in our languages but anyone whose been 'out there' will know that it doesn't even scratch the surface of what's truly happening.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Aldebaran]
#23768607 - 10/24/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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One thing I realised after tripping a lot is that the 'point of no return' that used to scare me on my first few trips, is almost now more like a 'base camp' for my explorations. That horrible place of writhing, fluorescent insanity you sometimes reach on your first few trips? ..... Better get used to it if you intend to dose high regularly.
I like to call it the "jolt", or "hitting a speed bump"... definitely an important element to learn to cope with. This is where I learned the importance of sitting still with muscles tensed until the anxiety subsides.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: impaired420]
#23768646 - 10/24/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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impaired420 said: How can you explore what is not? We are all merely psychedelic wanderers.
Exploring the ineffable sounds more like you could actually plot out the terrain of the psychedelic experience, IMO we can do our best to describe it in our languages but anyone whose been 'out there' will know that it doesn't even scratch the surface of what's truly happening.
You can actually plot the terrain, kind of. Of course the maps are nothing like being actually there, but hey a map of China isn't like actually being in China either. But i've read a lot of books on psychedelics and found that some people are able to convey at least some of what we experience to each other.
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23772024 - 10/26/16 12:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think the psychedelic experience is best understood through archetypal psychology:
"Archetypal psychology relativizes and deliteralizes the notion of ego and focuses on what it calls the psyche, or soul, and the deepest patterns of psychic functioning, "the fundamental fantasies that animate all life" (Moore, in Hillman, 1991). Archetypal psychology likens itself to a polytheistic mythology in that it attempts to recognize the myriad fantasies and myths – gods, goddesses, demigods, mortals and animals – that shape and are shaped by our psychological lives. In this framework the ego is but one psychological fantasy within an assemblage of fantasies. Archetypal psychology is, along with the classical and developmental schools, one of the three schools of post-Jungian psychology outlined by Andrew Samuels."
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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Middleman]
#23772065 - 10/26/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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who loves joseph campbell? the heros journey , the hero with a thousand faces.
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