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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: blckmynnse8]
    #23762482 - 10/22/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm so real up in this shit.


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185]
    #23762495 - 10/22/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

not me, I wish but I ain't got the discipline or the balls to go really out there
my primary concern is comfort and sadly psychedelics are NOT comfortable


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23762525 - 10/22/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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not me, I wish but I ain't got the discipline or the balls to go really out there
my primary concern is comfort and sadly psychedelics are NOT comfortable




You are an explorer if you take some.

also, "any real psychedelic explorers on this board?" is the most annoying thread title ever.

...  I bet there is quite a few people here who are psychedelic explorers.


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: dankbark]
    #23762536 - 10/22/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

well okay but I only explore the kiddie pool of the nether realms, I'd say. Maybe I'll change that, but I'm too allergic of pain for my own good

a big mushrooms dose might fix me


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23762580 - 10/22/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Some people are at least 3 times as sensitive to these kinds of highly psychedelic drugs.

Some people don't consider 2 grams of cub mushrooms to be a full trip. For me 3.5 is "super high" on mushrooms.  Not a high even really, just well beyond "high".


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: dankbark]
    #23762594 - 10/22/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

hmm, I know virtually everyone I know who trips gets way more visuals out of it than me, its sad cus I really want to see things, but it almost never happens. Mostly I just get nauseous and anxious and convince myself not to trip for a few months, then I try again, and repeat the process. I probably just need a real solid dose to properly punch through


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Lawnboy1185] * 1
    #23762646 - 10/22/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm looking for real psychedelic explorers only in this thread.




And yet you talk about boomers, chakras, and the pineal gland with apparent seriousness :lol:

Just kidding, although I do think that 'real psychedelic exploration' should involve more thought than simply taking a lot of drugs, watching Terence Mckenna videos, and accepting uncritically every dubious new-age theory that comes along. But yes, I do like interesting discussions and I agree they can sometimes be a bit thin on the ground among the typical "should I drink a gallon of ayahuasca for my first trip?" type questions.

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I'm looking to share stories of the nexus




Well, this is the Shroomery, not the DMT Nexus, but I'll do my best if you want to talk about shroom experiences....

I wouldn't regard myself as a psychonaut exactly; I'm a bit too old to muster the enthusiasm to start hippyflipping or experimenting with DMT and so on, but a psychedelic explorer....yes, possibly. (Entities? I don't want the fuckers I'm seeing on mushrooms to come any closer, thanks. Too many tentacles. Too many teeth).

Years back I studied philosophy and was especially interested in the philosophy of mind, so my trips are in some ways the experimental side of that line of thought. I might be tripping in an anonymous room somewhere, but as far as I'm concerned it's an adventure, an experiment; I feel like a 19th century explorer penetrating the jungles of the mind. Sometimes I think I should wear a safari jacket, just to get into character :wink:

I concentrate on psilocybin and I trip roughly 8 times a year at the moment, aiming for the very interesting zone of dosage where you become somewhat delusional but you are still lucid enough to hold a pen, and you write your way through the trip.....

Sometimes I dose a bit too high and the usual result is that I "become God" or end up in scenarios where I'm convinced that I'm dead and that real life is part of some experiment by aliens to recreate ancient lifeforms and study them inside an artificial reality....stuff like that.

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It aint a competition, more looking for stories.




Well quite, but many stories on here are simply of the form "I took drugs X and Y at insane dose Z and it was too crazy to really tell you anything informative about it". I'm trying to practice writing at fairly high dose levels, where you are still capable of describing what you are seeing and thinking, that's my particular interest.

And is anyone genuinely interested in the stories? Really? I haven't posted many trip reports recently partly because the majority of trip reports get very few views unless they mention insane doses or have a particularly grandiose title; I think people are browsing on phones and are more interested in a short snappy boast about how big the dose was.

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not ever trying to knock the noob, but coming from someone who candy flips on the regular, I feel like Im pushing the boundries a little more than some of these threads and Im just trying to find other people that take this serious.




Yes a lot of posts on here are from noobs, but to be honest I like their genuine enthusiasm to trip - the fascination they have with their initial explorations brings back memories of my own experiences, and their minds haven't yet been fogged by the credulous acceptance of large amounts of bullshit.

It can be a good way of clarifying your own ideas if you have to explain a trip to someone who has pushed open a door in their mind and wants to know what will happen if they go through it. Also, if you concentrate on explaining a trip to someone, it does start to bring back a lot of trippy memories and feelings, which is nice if you don't get to trip as often as you would like.

There is a lot of experience on this board, sometimes it may feel as though its just a repeat of the same noob questions over and over again in this forum, but there are people lurking in the background with interesting ideas and a lot of experience. There's no point me swaggering around trying to pretend to be the ultimate psychonaut because I know damn well there are people who have seen and done it all and just don't really feel the need to post that often on this particular forum.

If you are interested in stories of the extremes of exploration, take a look at some of the posts and threads I linked here - Horror Trip Reports

One thing I realised after tripping a lot is that the 'point of no return' that used to scare me on my first few trips, is almost now more like a 'base camp' for my explorations. That horrible place of writhing, fluorescent insanity you sometimes reach on your first few trips? ..... Better get used to it if you intend to dose high regularly.

As for a little story to demonstrate my current style of tripping -

I tripped (on sclerotia) last week, and a few days before that I'd watched Lars Von Trier's 1991 film "Europa" (the trailer is excellent in its own right, as well as giving a flavour of the film).



The start of the film itself contains a hypnotic voiceover counting from one to ten, talking about waking up on a train in Germany in the year 1945, and somehow this idea wove itself into my trip until it seemed real. I became convinced that I would wake up the next day and it would be 1945....

As the trip spiraled further beyond where I intended it to go, I became convinced that I was God, that I had exited the entire universe and was fighting to get back in, literally fighting hand-to-hand with horrible creatures, and then bargaining my way back in to this universe.

By that point I think I'd fallen asleep or otherwise lost consciousness and was basically negotiating my trip through a kind of lucid dream - it wasn't any kind of transcendent ego death experience, it was just mental, endless thought loops, as if the universe was a giant library and I had to read all the books before I could stop tripping.

Later, while I was still tripping I was explaining the multiple universes to myself, with two cushions pushed together, saying "this is one universe, and I've crossed over to this one" or something like that. It all made perfect sense at the time.

I tripped two days later on quite a substantial dose, and my CEV were all burnt-out like someone had nuked the interior of my mind. It was a very good lucid trip for writing though; during the previous trip the desk had looked a lot like a ship, so I was following the journey of this ship and writing a story as I went along. If you cultivate the right mood and the right dose, the ideas just come right on down from nowhere onto the page....

So that's where I am in my psychedelic explorations after fifty-something trips, each with its own peculiar journal....

"I have seen the machines. The machines that will come. And they are beautiful."


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #23762794 - 10/22/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

How can you explore what is not?
We are all merely psychedelic wanderers.

Exploring the ineffable sounds more like you could actually plot out the terrain of the psychedelic experience, IMO we can do our best to describe it in our languages but anyone whose been 'out there' will know that it doesn't even scratch the surface of what's truly happening.


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #23768607 - 10/24/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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One thing I realised after tripping a lot is that the 'point of no return' that used to scare me on my first few trips, is almost now more like a 'base camp' for my explorations. That horrible place of writhing, fluorescent insanity you sometimes reach on your first few trips? ..... Better get used to it if you intend to dose high regularly.





I like to call it the "jolt", or "hitting a speed bump"... definitely an important element to learn to cope with. This is where I learned the importance of sitting still with muscles tensed until the anxiety subsides.


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: impaired420]
    #23768646 - 10/24/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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impaired420 said:
How can you explore what is not?
We are all merely psychedelic wanderers.

Exploring the ineffable sounds more like you could actually plot out the terrain of the psychedelic experience, IMO we can do our best to describe it in our languages but anyone whose been 'out there' will know that it doesn't even scratch the surface of what's truly happening.




You can actually plot the terrain, kind of. Of course the maps are nothing like being actually there, but hey a map of China isn't like actually being in China either. But i've read a lot of books on psychedelics and found that some people are able to convey at least some of what we experience to each other.


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23772024 - 10/26/16 12:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think the psychedelic experience is best understood through archetypal psychology:

"Archetypal psychology relativizes and deliteralizes the notion of ego and focuses on what it calls the psyche, or soul, and the deepest patterns of psychic functioning, "the fundamental fantasies that animate all life" (Moore, in Hillman, 1991). Archetypal psychology likens itself to a polytheistic mythology in that it attempts to recognize the myriad fantasies and myths – gods, goddesses, demigods, mortals and animals – that shape and are shaped by our psychological lives. In this framework the ego is but one psychological fantasy within an assemblage of fantasies. Archetypal psychology is, along with the classical and developmental schools, one of the three schools of post-Jungian psychology outlined by Andrew Samuels."


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Re: Are there any real psychedelic explorers on this board? [Re: Middleman]
    #23772065 - 10/26/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

who loves joseph campbell? the heros journey , the hero with a thousand faces.


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