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For the Spiritual People / Update from my other post
    #23754759 - 10/20/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Some background:

-Weed consumer 5-6 years
-MDMA/Coke sometimes
-Shrooms 4 times

Many will say this is not true and cannot happen to anyone but it has happened to me .

It was after my 4th shroom trip . something went wrong , set setting was right , dosage 2,5 g
Started well , after some time 2 female friends came by wich changed the whole trip
and intention. I got weird , confused and the comeup was way to overwhelming.

After some time we changed setting and i tried to finally enjoy it and was okay.

I knew something went really wrong but tried to ignore it and keep on with daily life.

Time passed by , kept smoking .

After 3-4 months i was feeling weird , full of thoughts , addicted to THC , desilusional thoughts about me having Depersonalisation/Derealisation etc etc.

I was then 9 weeks in a ward because i had a breakdown.
Took medicines 2 weeks and said stop . I wont take that shit more .

Since a specific moment like maybe since 6-7 months i lost all self feeling , connection to the universe , lost the magic of life.

Today , I was by the Homepathy Female friend of my mother.

She did me a ressonance and could feel that my Chakras were fucked up due to drug consume in the last year and my Hara was fucked up and my Transpersonal point was opening wich she told me my Soul was about to leave my physical body wich scared the shit out of me.

She said we need to do more work sessions together as she has had many cases similar to me and worse . She gave me to receipts for globuli wich i will be taking to see if they work.

I am afraid i have never come down after that trip and will remain like this the rest of my days.
She said that wont be the case but after so much time feeling this i dont see much hope .

Thanks for reading !

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Re: For the Spiritual People / Update from my other post [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23763290 - 10/23/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh. Female friends. Well this kinda changes things. At least a bit :smile:

But look, I am still not seeing any emotional description of what actually happened on that trip.

Do you have a trip report posted from the 4th shroom trip?

If so, where? If not, WRITE ONE and take it step by step, what happened? WHat happened internally with you, what were the thoughts and emotions that came up?

In my opinion you are this way because you are blocking something. What was going on between you and those 2 girls? DId you want to bang them? Hit them? Eat their eyeballs?

Express this stuff here, or whatever the healing lady does will not have that much effect, as she can't breathe your breaths for you. Most people that get into weird states (read: not breathing, over-thinking, generally with eyes open, to avoid what's inside) do so because they try to avoid themselves.

BRing it. Bring all that 4th trip here back for analysis, by both you and others, and there's high chance of a trip report containing at least SOME clues as to what's going on.

2.5 grams can never mind-fuck a human adult to this extent, so it must be deeper underlying issues that you had already, now coming up and being exposed for you to solve. Of course if you try to avoid them with smoking, pills and hospitals, things will get pretty nasty pretty fast.

Stop smoking and outrunning, start facing and expressing and YOU WILL be all right :heart: :smile:


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Re: For the Spiritual People / Update from my other post [Re: They]
    #23763323 - 10/23/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey thanks ,

So imma do that:

4th Shroom Trip Report :

Set Setting : 19-20:00 , Friends House ( Experienced Tripper) at our Apartments where  co-workers live from the same enterprise.

Me and my friend has planned to do Shrooms that day , i was waiting for him and he then came after work.

My Shrooms were dried , ready to ingest. We chose his Apartment because he had a balcony and air flow was better and we could do more noise in there.
We didnt have a scale atm , so he suggested we both eat a hand full of Hawaiaan Cubensis . He ate a little bit more. It all was chill , good relaxing music on , talking about the day and expecting the trip.
After some time , we decided to go to the Gas station to get some beer.
It was like 5 Min Away so we decided to go , each grab us 2 beers 0,5 and get back.
When we where heading back home it was kicking in by my friend , i didnt feel anything.
After some time , we were back , he was tripping hard , and i was enjoying the music.
Then , it happened , someone rang outside and we heard those 1 female friend of mine(experienced tripper)  drunk with another of her friend we new from school.

We let them come up , then we told the we had ingested shrooms. The other friend of her was like screaming and then they started to put on some techno wich i like. I offered them to give them some shrooms and they both ate the rest of it.

It was kicking hard by now inside of me and i felt a huge body load , the situation was like really overwhelming because everything happened to fast and it was way to much for my mind.

Then her friend kept talking bullshit about festivals and she was like repeating herself 20 times over and over because she was a dumb drunk pieace of shit . I was getting really mad at that moment and getting really angry at her. I told my friend to say her to fuck off or something and there was when i started having a panic reaction , i couldnt speak a word , then i saw into the mirror got also weird.

It was really abrupt , it was a second where something happened inside of me where i knew something when wrong.

We decided to change setting , got a taxi and when to her house because it was bigger and chillier.

We arrived at her home. We didnt had music , we smoked cigs and chilled out on the couch and i was talking with my friend and i started to feel better and enjoy some visuals i had .

I finally was coming down and went to bed with my friend .The night was way to overwhelming for me.

Next morning , i didnt really thought about how i feeled and didnt really digest that trip. I did the error of going to School at 8 am . It was the first day of school and i should have stayed at home better.

I kept going with life , kept with weed , always weed sessions wich were really more similar to shrooms.

I didnt really think much about it at the time i just kept on going.

I have been working since the trip ( September 2015)  till June ( 2016) but got much in trouble in the work ,had no force , was getting way to paranoid bcs of smoking ,  i didnt know what was going on , something was wrong . I was looking for answers . I had a mental breakdown then from overthinking.
I went to my moms house 1 Month , nothing got much better.
Then i stayed at the Ward for 9 weeks. A wrong decision , didnt help .

Now atm , i feel like this

I kinda left badly that trip and it stayed since then.

Now , i dont get high from weed , dont feel anything .
Mdma helps for a moment but also not.

I tried a Shrooms dose last week from 1g . It brang some clarity but it didnt unmake the clay and didnt let me see the light and experience universal love.

So i dont know if dosing up is the way because things can get worse but when i reach the point where i have nothing  left i will do it because i am living in this hell since 7-8 months and cant take it anymore

I am sober since 2-3 Months until last week.


Things that i feel:

-Feel no connection o my body to the earth,ground
-Feel Stuck inside my head
-Feeling as if i am not really in my body

Last week i went to my homepath.
She said to me that i wasnt really inside my body because i arent and i feel that. She said my chakras are not aligned and she felt as if i was still in that trip. That 1 ,30 session cost me 170 euro.
I got prescribed globuli from peyote.
She said she could fix my state but i should not use drugs to try it that it will make it worse. She has had similar cases to mine and worse and knows about drugs.

I am 19 , pretty much fucked , cant function really "normal" in society as i used to. The connection is missing .

I havmt lost my mind or anything else , i have learned so much in since that happened because i see everything from a higher point of view but i would like to come down to normal again.

What i think happened on that trip is that i had a Panic reaction , i did fight the trip at start and thats why things got bumpy.
Now i wish i hadnt even tried them at first.

I am a very open minded person but i am also afraid if i keep dosing up the shrooms to heal myself is that i completely fuck up with me and loose everything.

On the other hand i want to go back to normal feel everything again , i tried it with 1g , everything felt much more realer but this point is missing.
It is not the case that i cant control myself while tripping but i dont want to loose everything.

I will follow my gut feeling

What can i do bro?

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Re: For the Spiritual People / Update from my other post [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23764093 - 10/23/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well this explains A TON. In fact to me it's absolutely obvious what's going on, though you may not like my analysis.

Here goes.

Initially you said "took shrooms, friends came over, things got weird."

Upon further inspection there was in fact A TON of alcohol and cigarettes involved in that story. There is also alcohol noise being dumped on you by that drunk, which is quite common, I've had to deal with many of these mid-trip experiences myself, hence my current extreme opinions about smoking and alcohol. THese do different things but the end result is the same, emotional disconnection, and making and dumping on others of one's own internal stress.

Don't blame this on the shrooms, you didn't do shrooms, you did shrooms+alcohol+cigs and then hung out with drunk people. YOu basically get what you pay for, so to speak :smile:

Now, the solution.

Take it way easier with cig smoking. Same with drinking. Angry nasty shit WILL come up emotionally, and it's on you to EXPRESS and release it, not to keep smoking and suppressing. That's it. Do this and it WILL reconnect and cleanse you.

Go spend some time in nature and learn to physically express some anger and aggression. Scream, howl, hit and strike things. WALK and hike and use that body. Depending on the temperatures where you are, if feasible (warm enough) DO spend some time barefoot on grass and in the forest. Swim somewhere if possible, reconnect with water.

You yourself are noticing your connection is cut, to the ground. Well are you spending any time directly on it, WITHOUT electrical insulating shoes?

Reduce your eyes-open gazing-into-electronics time, and start having at least SOME time of eyes-closed breathing, with no external electric input. In nature if you can, in silence if you can't, or find a park or something, but away from traffic noise. THis WILL allow you to basically reconnect what needs to be reconnected.

I've had what you're having, precisely that aggro-triggering mid-trip, and it took a couple of months to integrate, in a story so retarded that I can't believe it's me starring in it, the amount of shit I was considering to do at the time :lol: Luckily nobody was hurt maimed killed or arrested.

So this was a message from the universe to tell you to watch wtf you're doing, putting in your body, and who you hang out with.

This is IN NO WAY a shroom-related issue, and VERY MUCH an alcohol-related one. Be grateful that this was shown to you, to see the quality of people you hang out with, and quality of your consumption choices. The fact that you went for beer after mushrooms, and then you REALLY got to feel what alcohol does to a human nervous system, that should tell you loads.

This is what mushies do. Face you with consequences. If instead of contemplation and spirit and alignment, you want superficial smokes and booze, then fine. Have at it. Have these moronical noisy drunks screaming shit at you, to see where alcohol really leads.

Do you still drink beer after that? Tell me you still drank alcohol after that experience, that I may laugh my ass off for the rest of the year :lol:

Anyway, best of luck with reconnecting, please reply about this stuff in any way you see fit, I do hope you've started seeing the errors of the alcohol-infused ways. I know everyone does it, if you want to be in that tribe by all means enjoy :smile:

I am seeing why this was given to you, it's a most effective wake-up call, I hope you heed and overcome it, and once you're clean you'll see it's exactly what you needed. Powerful magic awaits at the other side of these hard lessons. :heart:


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Re: For the Spiritual People / Update from my other post [Re: They]
    #23765877 - 10/24/16 02:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks ,

It was not a good idea mixing substances that night i agree on that.

But why did that trip take me all the magic of life?

I cant understand what really happened that night .

It has been now long time since that night and i am still feeling as before.

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Re: For the Spiritual People / Update from my other post [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23765948 - 10/24/16 04:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Any suggestions ?



Yes, quite a few actually, check :pm: :smile:


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    #23765993 - 10/24/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

They said:


In my opinion you are this way because you are blocking something...

Express this stuff here...

...because they try to avoid themselves.

BRing it...

2.5 grams can never mind-fuck a human adult to this extent, so it must be deeper underlying issues that you had already, now coming up and being exposed for you to solve. Of course if you try to avoid them with smoking, pills and hospitals, things will get pretty nasty pretty fast.

Stop smoking and outrunning, start facing and expressing and YOU WILL be all right :heart: :smile:




"Passive-aggressive disorder may stem from a specific childhood stimulus[10] (e.g., alcohol/drug addicted parents, bullying, abuse) in an environment where it was not safe to express frustration or anger. Families in which the honest expression of feelings is forbidden tend to teach children to repress and deny their feelings and to use other channels to express their frustration."- Wiki


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    #23766004 - 10/24/16 06:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I suspect the "vindictive" condition is more prevalent amongst us than realized.

"Maturity" being a gradual process I expect you are ready to be involved for the long haul.


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    #23766025 - 10/24/16 06:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Re: Just Crying What Can I do ?
Quote:

Trippedytrip said:
Men i am not fucking around , i am already on the abyss and floating around .


I think i wont ever get grounded into my body again :frown:




"An adjustment disorder (AD) — sometimes called exogenous, or reactive, or situational depression[1] — occurs when an individual is unable to adjust to or cope with a particular stress or a major life event. Since people with this disorder normally have symptoms that depressed people do, such as general loss of interest, feelings of hopelessness and crying, this disorder is sometimes known as situational depression. Unlike major depression the disorder is caused by an outside stressor and generally resolves once the individual is able to adapt to the situation.[2] One hypothesis about AD is that it may represent a sub-threshold clinical syndrome.[3]"- Wiki


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    #23766061 - 10/24/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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"Passive-aggressive disorder may stem from a specific childhood stimulus[10] (e.g., alcohol/drug addicted parents, bullying, abuse) in an environment where it was not safe to express frustration or anger. Families in which the honest expression of feelings is forbidden tend to teach children to repress and deny their feelings and to use other channels to express their frustration."- Wiki



Sounds about right :smile:

Only thing I'd object to is this term disorder, which makes things permanent, gives the illusion of permanence, like you "have it" instead of "you do it".

I'd say all of the above, but just call it passive-aggressive BEHAVIOR. Which once you notice, you can more easily start to change to other behaviors, than a "disorder".

From what I see, OP is basically riding on a ton of un-expressed anger and hatred, probably towards women, probably well deserved. Would be interesting to hear what mom was like, what childhood was like, how mom&dad got along, if they drank and smoked, if they were accepting or not accepting of open expression of feelings, plenty of meat on the bone here, if one just knows where to look.

Am still recovering from that 170 euro bill from the homeopathy lady. Just wow :rolleyes:


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    #23766080 - 10/24/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Given the predilection of Authority for the minions to 'Play by the rules' it may be apparent that "the honest expression of feelings is forbidden", hence a surfeit of aberrations.


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    #23766103 - 10/24/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing to do with what you said.

I am neither depressed , i had a brilliant childhood etc etc.

Its neither posses agression inside of me .

It is just that i want to live again but i arent functioning normal as it has to be

I reslly want to live again


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    #23766109 - 10/24/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Apparently, nonetheless, you feel shrooms are to blame and harbor vindictiveness with some goal of satisfaction.


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    #23766959 - 10/24/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Am seeing a very common pattern of putting less and less energy in posts, not addressing relevant questions, as if it's our problem to solve, not OP's.

Fine, you had a happy childhood, have no aggression inside, everything is awesome, you just drink alcohol and smoke cigs in order to do what exactly? I have yet to meet people who engage in this stuff and have nothing inside to avoid.

Anyway I don't see much interest in actually getting to the bottom of things here, judging by the short rushed post above. Tell us how the homeopathy works out :thumbup:

Quote:


I am neither depressed



How does that work?

How does that work when faced with this?
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-Feel no connection o my body to the earth,ground
-Feel Stuck inside my head
-Feeling as if i am not really in my body



Which is it, are you not depressed or are you stuck inside your head with no connection?


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    #23767422 - 10/24/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I dont feel a connection to the universe and the magic i used to .

And feel stucked inside of me. .

I just had 1 session so far i will give ya an update


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    #23768727 - 10/25/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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And feel stucked inside of me. .




So MOVE dude, MOVE!

Go outside to some forest and FUCKING HOWL!!!!

Pick up some rocks and THROW THEM IN ANGER!!!

Don't just sit there and think in your head of some reason not to do it, PUT IN THE WORK to move and climb and do some shit, it WILL trigger you back into flowing and feeling. But first you've got to DO some shit and EXPRESS :smile:


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I just had 1 session so far i will give ya an update



So you plan to actually go again to this woman, and spend a few more hundred euro on sessions? Ummm, why?

Am amazed and amused dude, at how you two found each other.

170 Euro for less than 2 hours' work. Wow. Just wow :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

And for that extra super deep analysis, she told you some stuff about your chakras. And you plan to actually go again.

Dude this is amazing info for me, as I am starting to work with clients in your kind of situation. Usually I have to work and offer some actual healing and real results for any money I get from clients, but here I see a fantastic willingness to give a lot for very very little.

Wish you could see it man, this whole game you do with yourself and this lady, wish you could see it like I see it :smile:

Oh well, tell us how it plays out :popcorn:


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    #23768901 - 10/25/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You are what you want, you are life.


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