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#23754464 - 10/20/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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     Title says it all! Share your astrological makeup with others. So then we can all astrology stalk everyone.  But you should know that this information should not be used as manipulation and only as a fun way to get to know each other and share. I know there are more than a couple of people on this site that are interested in this pseudoscience and I am one of them! Woo!! I will also post different websites that can help you to figure out the information. And it'll be from different types of astrology from all over the world. If anyone has any information, or better information, on ones I don't post that would be greatly appreciated and this can become a thread of worldy astrology throughout history including western astrology, hindu/vedic astrology, mayan astrology, celtic astrology, chinese astrology, etc. I'll try to find sites that don't require money for the information as well. If you have any really great books that you would like to share I can also update them onto the OP as well. So!! Onward to map of the stars of your birth!
Western Astrology 
Astro.com
You will need your birth information for this site and it will be better if you can find out your birth time as well. So ask your momma!
Olga Vasilchuk - Esoteric Astrology
Another good website where you can get charted and gather more information. If you look into the Lilith in the Signs selection you can explore a neat interpretation of perhaps your past life and what you are karmically trying to overcome.
DarkStar Astrology
A darker look into astrology that might prove helpful looking at the underbelly of your charts. 
DarkStar Astrology Major Aspects
Same website but quick click to the Major Aspects in your chart. Disclaimer: Is not complete with all information but has enough to still read.
E-Tarrochi Relationship Synastry
A website that can allow you to check astrological synastry between two people in a relationship. You will need birth date and time.
ZET Relationship Synastry
This is another website that you can also check astrological synastry between two people in a relationship. You will need birth date and time.
Astrologija - Lilith in Signs
Information about Lilith in Signs.
Astromatrix.org
Good information on aspects in charts including those of planets, relationships and transits.
Susan Miller at Astrology Zone
Good recommendation from YogaBunny, can get free long form monthly reports.
The Secret Language 
The Secret Language of your Birthday
A site based specifically just on your birthday with personality traits. You can also check birthday relationships in here as well.
Mayan Astrology 
Dreamspell
You can figure out your Mayan Dreamspell by using the calculator at the top right of the screen. Then come back and look for your sign. There are also other charts that you can look up but the site has a weird setup.
Mayan Tzolkin
This is probably the best Mayan sign website that I have found that has semi extra information with more information on your sign.
Vedic Astrology 
KRS Channel This Youtube channel was recommended for more explanation of Vedic Astrology. He's a little silly but it is also good information.
Celtic Astrology  (Disclaimer: Celtic astrology seems to have been fabricated by Robert Graves. Although still interesting, I guess. )
Celtic Sun Signs
Fabrication of Celtic Astrology
Interesting article addressing the fabrication of Celtic Astrology and that it is not historically rooted in Celtic mythology.
Native American Astrology 
Native American Astrology
Chinese Astrology 
Your Chinese Astrology
You can click on your Chinese Zodiac sign based on your year of birth. Although the Chinese New Year starts on Feb. 8th. So if you were born before that day, you would be considered the sign the year before. After clicking you can also check to see your elemental influence based upon your actual year of birth, since the 12 signs go around every 12 years and the element is based on specific year of birth.
Chinese Astrology Online
This site is a bit more in depth but I can't seem to find more thorough information on what they provide you. I shall keep looking!!
Books 
Most of the books I have are on western astrology but as time goes on I shall update if I find any more. Also if anyone wants to suggest books of interest I can also add them here as well.
 The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk
 Linda Goodman's Love Signs by Linda Goodman
 Sextrology by Cox and Starsky
 The Secret Language of Birthdays by Gary Goldschneider
 The Astrologer's Handbook by Frances Sakoian
 Astrology, Karma and Transformation by Stephen Arroyo
 An Astrological Study of Psychological Complexes by Dane Rudhyar
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo] 1
#23754607 - 10/20/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So for the astro.com.... after you put in your information there are numerous free charts that you can read that can be spooky spot on or just interesting. Either way, I think it is pretty neat. There is also charts that you can bring up in the free horoscopes that you can save and share if you want to. I just erased the birth information on the upper left. Here's mine.....

My western astrology signs are :
Sun - Scorpio Moon - Capricorn Ascendant - Aries Mercury - Scorpio Venus - Scorpio Mars - Libra Jupiter - Aries Saturn - Sagittarius Uranus - Sagittarius Neptune - Capricorn Pluto - Scorpio True Node - Aries
Most of the outer planets will be similar to those of your age range.
For my Mayan Dreamspell one I am Yellow Spectral Star. 
For my Tzolkin it is with day sign IX/Jaguar with galactic tone 9/Patience and my trecana sign is Death. I haven't really read the Tree of Life path before for the Tzolkin but here's the pic it gave me and it's pretty neat to read.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23755239 - 10/20/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's not shown on here, but my Mars is stationary
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23755677 - 10/20/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow, look at that splash layout!!! You're absolutely everywhere. That's neat!
I can tell you are at least a few years older than me from your Pluto. When did you start learning astrology? I believe I saw you mention some things about it recently in another thread and could tell you were into it more thoroughly. Have you looked into other culture's astrology?
Do you have any good book recommendations or websites? I still have to post my most used books.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23755715 - 10/20/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm 34
Probably around 2014
No on other cultures
I downloaded a public domain ebook, can't remember the name. I don't have it anymore. Absorbed whatever I needed from it
I've had no income for years (don't buy books) and ran up $80 worth of late fees at the library (can't borrow, don't leave the house anymore anyway) so I've just used that one book and websites.
I use astro.com for charts Astrotheme for celebrity charts (I prefer to learn from combining intuition with observation -- I spend all day, every day watching celebrities on YouTube...music videos and interviews) Anything I want specific info on I just google and go to whatever results sound good
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23755798 - 10/20/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do everything on a phone while I lay in bed, and I've been using the Time Passages Pro app for a few months, mostly to check transits, but it does other stuff too. The interface is a lot less trouble than me filling out web forms
I think it's $30, idk somebody gifted it to me
There's a free version too
(iPhone)
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23755805 - 10/20/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice! Interesting charts, playing around with them now - always fun 
Sun - Pisces Ascendant - Scorpio Moon - Gemini
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23755915 - 10/20/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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here's mine 

can't say I'm too educated about astrology, but it does seem to sometimes offer quite accurate depictions of traits and such
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: deff] 1
#23757475 - 10/21/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I'm too busy hating myself to share my stuff at the current moment... And it might be a while...
But I find the best predictors of personality are the zodiac, the Mayan signature, and the MBTI personality test. I don't think any are "wrong" but rather they are measuring different parts of the vast array of characteristics that make us who we are.
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#23757554 - 10/21/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is all you're getting.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Lucis]
#23758083 - 10/21/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rising Sign is in 09 Degrees Capricorn You are practical and reserved but very ambitious. An achiever and a hard worker, you respect success. Older looking and very serious as a youth, things lighten up and you relax more as you mature. You have a serious view of the world as being a difficult place to be in. Very envious of those who seem to have an easier life than you have, relaxation and play do not come easily. It is important that you had abundant parental support as a child so that you do not feel lonely and isolated as an adult. Generally, you have a good, earthy sense of humor that can carry you through when times really do get tough. You are purposeful, self-willed, industrious, realistic and responsible.
Sun is in 16 Degrees Sagittarius. Very fun-loving, spirited and energetic, you have a huge reservoir of physical energy within you that needs to be released. As such, exercise or sports are very important to you. Quite gregarious, you enjoy being with other people, but you tend to avoid emotionally restrictive or intimate relationships. Constantly curious about the broader issues of life, you may at times be quite careless and sloppy about details -- you tend to leap to conclusions before all the facts are in. An avid reader, you are totally enthusiastic about any given subject should it interest you. You are known for being idealistic, generous, sociable, cheerful and very positive!
Moon is in 20 Degrees Pisces. You have strong feelings and are extremely sensitive. It would help if you had a thicker skin -- you tend to react emotionally to every situation you come across. Kind, gentle and considerate of the feelings of others, you are good at taking care of the sick, wounded and helpless. But you tend to absorb the energy of others -- so avoid those who are always negative. You have a rich, creative and lively imagination, but you should be careful not to spend all your time daydreaming. Very intuitive, you have good ESP and may be quite clairvoyant or psychic. Remember that you too have the right to get what you want from life. If you are always defensive and kowtowing to others, people will take advantage of you and exploit you.
Mercury is in 28 Degrees Scorpio. You are a born investigator. You are fascinated by secrets and mysteries and unanswered questions of any kind. When you become upset or angry, your emotional reactions are overpowering -- reason and logic disappear in an uncontrollable passionate outburst. You tend to keep your thoughts secret and bottled up and this makes others regard you with suspicion. It is not that you are trying purposely to be evasive, it is just that you would rather not deal with the explosions and hassles that often occur when you reveal your true feelings and opinions. Your sense of humor tends toward sarcasm and irony.
Venus is in 07 Degrees Scorpio. Your feelings about others are deep, powerful, intense and complex. When you like someone, you do so totally and obsessively if you do not like someone, they do not exist. Your faithfulness and loyalty to your lover is unquestioned, indeed at times it is too much so -- you get so possessive that you almost smother your partner. At times, your feelings are kept deep within you and, because they are so complex and intense, they frighten you -- this is the way that you try to ignore them. But the more you try to do this, the more explosive things get when you eventually do express them.
Mars is in 08 Degrees Pisces. Very sensitive and vulnerable, it is difficult for you to assert yourself. At times, you feel quite tired and you will require a lot of sleep in order to maintain your health and your strength. You are at your best when you act without your ego being important. You can be very unselfish and considerate of the needs of others. You get the most satisfaction by giving to others when you expect nothing in return. Beware of a tendency to want always to work behind the scenes or to become overly deceptive by doing things behind others' backs.
Jupiter is in 14 Degrees Pisces. You are at your best when you give of yourself and what you have -- try to avoid being a martyr about it, though. You're a true idealist, but you must learn not to be upset when life does not cooperate with the way you think things should be. Very concerned with spiritual truth and growth, when you practice what you preach, you make an excellent role model for others. You are so devoted to altruistic ventures and concerns that you tire easily at times. It then becomes necessary for you to go off by yourself to recharge your batteries.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Leviticus969]
#23758103 - 10/21/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chinese Zodiac
Tigers, considered to be brave, cruel, forceful, stately and terrifying, are the symbol of power and lordliness. In ancient times, people usually compared emperors or grandees with the tiger. Court officials often said that 'accompanying the emperor is just like being at the side of a tiger'. There are also many legends about this animal.
In most cases, people with Chinese zodiac sign 'Tiger' are powerful, independent, confident and brave. They have strong sense of errantry, being frank and easy to win others' trust. In their middle age, their fate may be uneven, but after hardships, they will enjoy a bright prospect. While they are also likely to be dogmatic, and like showing off when accomplishing something.
Strengths Tolerant, loyal, valiant, courageous, trustworthy, intelligent, virtuous Weaknesses Arrogant, short-tempered, hasty, traitorous
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Leviticus969]
#23758108 - 10/21/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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With all that being said I don't really care for all this zodiac and astrology stuff.... I believe we have the ability to change and be who we want to be. Nothings set in stone... But it's fun reading for shits n giggles
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Leviticus969]
#23758130 - 10/21/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Apart from these the other Ophiuchus personality traits are:
• interpreter of dreams
• Seeker of wisdom and knowledge
• will have a great family but have to leave the home at early age.
• Attract good luck
• Visionary
• A great architect or builder
• Authority looks upon him/her well
Positive Traits
Some of the positive traits of Ophiuchus are: - Tend to embrace and seek to change, disliking routine in life. - Follow their instincts to a fault and can be impulsive. -Are happy and humorous. -Are honest to a fault. -Are often described as intellectual and clever. -Think with their hearts and not their heads. -Are powerfully passionate. -Have a great deal of creativity, imagination and curiosity. -Are people magnets possessing high charisma. -Are empathic, people pleasers with a knack for persuasion. -have a strong sense of justice. -Are great with language, arts and the written word. -Are passionate and adept lovers naturally. -Are eccentric and quirky. -Are driven to succeed. -Dislike authority, rules, regulation and restriction of any kind. -Dislike irrelevant and trivial information. -Have a high sense of pride and arrogance and dislike being treated as inferior. -Enjoy being Number 1 and being told about it. -Tend to seek the unknown and are always seeking knowledge and wisdom. -Tend to take the defense rather than offense. -Are not open but said to be secretive. -Don't fall well into social labels.
Negative Traits -Have trouble with monogamous relationships. -Can be of the jealous type. -Are judgmental and critical. -Can be restless and irresponsible. -Procrastinate as a rule. -Have violent but short lived tempers. - Are sarcastic and have a dry sense of humor. -Tend to only keep useful things, including friends around.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23758194 - 10/21/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pisces guy here, with some Sagitarrius going on. Very active Chiron teaching hard lessons. I am a highly conflicted individual according to Astrology. Well I have some positive aspects...
Nice to see you Scorpio. I always seem to fall in with you guys. :-)
I think I remembered that Deff was Leo from previous astrology threads. I think I see that... My ex girlfriend was a Leo. I always want to tell her to keep shining. I always felt like I was in the spotlight with her.
Also I knew a Leo who was a hermit meditation teacher, who lived in the hills of california. He was probably the most interesting old man I ever met.
Good thread idea.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23758406 - 10/21/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh thank you so much for all that have replied and shared their information!!! I hope that this thread continues on in an abundant information exchange for astrology so we have one huge thread dedicated to it. I have been interested and learning about astrology since I was 12 years old and even though it has been about 16 years I don't consider myself having enough knowledge in it. I hope to also keep this thread updated with more information and will be adding anything that anyone considers very useful for their personal use. Pretty soon I will update all of my books on the subject, although I only use a handful of them for more in depth knowledge.
I consider astrology not set in stone, like a majority of people, but it has never failed in entertaining me. I can see alot of truth to it the more you go into it and with all the different layers from different cultures you can get a more rounded version of someone's personality that can be pretty precise. Although alot of my astrology tells me that I could be great in the military. Hah! I'm way too sensitive for that but I did grow up a military brat. I think it's all in good fun and I am both serious and detached from it. I like to live by this code of 'Believe everything and question everything at the same time', as it can apply to everything in life for me. I like to consider myself as a highly optimistic realist who still believes in magic kind of gal.
@100 the cat - Dude that is neat about the app. I will look it up and add it and if you can remember the name of the book I can add that too when I do the book section. I can also take pictures out of my book that I use for anyone too if they don't want to buy the book. There's usually just paragraphs that I also read according to the birth information from astro.com.
@CookieCrumbs - Take your time lady!! No rush! And take care of yourself 
@Leviticus - Awesome. Where do you find your information at?! Did you use a personal website or book? Thank you for sharing!
@Kurt - haha Leos! I always seem to have a bad time around Leo men but have had some Leo female friends throughout the years. Deff is def a cool guy! I've had a really good Pisces friend as well! I actually don't find that many! I'm always around fire and air signs.
@Fennario - mmmhmm. mmhmm..... verrrrrry interesting.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23758427 - 10/21/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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For my Chinese Astrology I am a Fire Rabbit
Rabbit represents longevity, discretion and good luck. It has the fourth position in the Chinese Zodiac. People born under the sign of the Rabbit are kind-hearted, friendly, intelligent, cautious, skillful, gentle, quick and live long. They dislike fighting and like to find solutions through compromise and negotiation. On the negative side, Rabbit people have the potential to be superficial, stubborn, melancholy and overly-discreet.
The rabbit is a kind of docile animals. They are silent and lovely with no fighting force. They like to lie down silently at most of the time which looks lazy and weak. While, once running, they act very swiftly. It is the same as the people under the sign of the rabbit. When silent, they appear to be very quiet; when move, they are very vigorous and active. Once there are disagreements, they would not attack or offend others but doing their affairs peacefully. Not like the tiger people, there will no big ups and downs for the fate of the people born in the year of the rabbit. Their fortune can reach the summit during the middle ages and go down smoothly later. The men under the sign of the rabbit are most family-type. They are fond of trimming the garden, interior decoration and much other housework. As they are usually quiet, the weak, steady and elegant women fit them perfectly. Too extroverted women will be hard to live with them harmoniously.
The women under the sign of the rabbit are usually perceptual, considerate and thoughtful. They have a keen sense of color and pay great attention to the emotion and atmosphere. So, they can be good secretaries, dinner hostesses and reception staffs.
The fire rabbits like to be enveloped in a shroud of mystery. They always do some daring things without others’ expectation. In personality, they are tolerant, clever and do things carefully which make them good leaders. Also, they have unique insight and are good at training the people. So, they are also good teachers. However, as they aim high, desire more and like to be the leader, they often leave an arrogant impression to others. At the same time, they like to achieve their goals by using their power of influence among the people and support of others. So, you usually feel a lot of pressure besides them.
When doing career, the fire Rabbits need to have a clear mind and learn how to absorb all kinds of experiences. If they are inclined to be lazy or always find shortcut to do things, there will be many good chances missed. Once they meet difficulties, seek advice from others will be a great help. As in emotion, the fire rabbits are often depressed and easy transfer their anger to others, the harmonious atmosphere is easy to be disturbed when work with colleagues.
In love, their depressed mood also affects the relationship with their partner. When they are low, they like to lose temper and even hurt their love terribly without controlling some bad words. Therefore, the fire rabbits need to subordinate passion to reason instead of unburdening the unsatisfactory feelings to their love. To them, the best way to relief pressure is traveling.
In finance, the fire rabbits would meet some unexpected obstacles in money when managing a business in life. There are also some large expenses without any expectation. So, they are suggested to buy real estate or other value-preserving things in advance.
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#23758641 - 10/21/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm a fire rabbit too
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#23758762 - 10/21/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Huzzah!
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23759143 - 10/21/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where can I get info like that on fire tiger?
Also Pachoo, do you have any experience with vedic astrology? I've never known where to start.
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#23759174 - 10/21/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for sharing by the way, please pardon my enthusiasm.
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#23759584 - 10/21/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haha no problemo. I updated some of the information on the original post. I believe the first website you can click on your sign and then near the bottom you can see specific years for the elements and can figure yours out that way.
As for Vedic astrology. I am absolutely terrible at figuring that stuff out. There was a member here that gave me a reading that I was super grateful for and it was one of the best readings I've ever had. It had a bunch of stuff spot on more than western astrology.
He recommended me this guy. He can be a little silly but some of the stuff I can understand a bit more because of him. Later I will post some websites that I used to look at if I can find them for ya. 
KRS Channel
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Lucis]
#23760912 - 10/22/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fennario said: This is all you're getting.

Question for all you mystical shroomery babes and bros, does this chart mean anything?
I don't feel comfortable posting the other part of it because that would show personal information about myself which I don't feel like sharing, but I have no idea what that chart means, but am curious if someone who is well read on such things, can interpret it, of if the other part of it is needed to do so.
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#23761043 - 10/22/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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if you go to the 'free horoscopes' tab then to 'AstroClick Portrait' on astro.com, it gives you your chart and you can click on any of the planets or lines and read about what they mean. that's what I did as I have very little knowledge of astrology, and it was interesting to read 
here is a link to that page: http://www.astro.com/cgi/aclch.cgi?btyp=ack (not sure if that will work)
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#23761603 - 10/22/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fennario said:
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Fennario said: This is all you're getting.

Question for all you mystical shroomery babes and bros, does this chart mean anything?
I don't feel comfortable posting the other part of it because that would show personal information about myself which I don't feel like sharing, but I have no idea what that chart means, but am curious if someone who is well read on such things, can interpret it, of if the other part of it is needed to do so.
Of course it means something.
The thing I see right off the bat is problems with the mother. The mother is a stress point. I'm not let into the chart any further than that intuitively
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23761653 - 10/22/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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OOooooooo hey Cat can you see anything in mine based off my chart?
Fennario, yea you can tell a bunch from your chart honestly. If you want I can post some stuff from my books about you as well. I haven't started 'astrology stalking' any of you yet haha but I will get there.
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#23761846 - 10/22/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The thing I see right off the bat is problems with the mother. The mother is a stress point. I'm not let into the chart any further than that intuitively
I have made that information public all over these boards how there's a cycle of abuse in my family which was passed from my grandparents, to my uncles, aunts, and mother, so I feel like you might have seen that info here, not trying to be rude to by saying that, just what I believe. You would have to actually explain what you meant for your reply to mean something to myself, this way I could cross check it, but making vague comments is no way of elucidating a subject. Thanks for the try though.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Lucis]
#23762040 - 10/22/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, tbh I'm too self-absorbed to go around remembering stuff like that about other people unless I've formed a bond with you by sharing stuff in private and you've really left a mark on my life (positive or neg). I don't recall reading about your life, I'm pretty new here, but I'm not expecting you to believe that.
I don't read all the posts on here and I'm not in the biz of "proving" astrology...to those for whom it is useful it's self-evident.
You're the one who asked
You got something in return and now you're being shitty about it
I'm not interested in you enough to get full-on sucked into your chart, all I did was a super-shallow surface glance, equivalent to noticing your hair color or skin tone upon meeting you in person
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23762202 - 10/22/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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A chart isn't gonna tell you anything you don't already know
Or that you won't find out by just living your life and learning more about yourself
It's a feedback loop, a mirror
I use mine to check that I'm on course with my own personal truth
When I say, think, or type things, if a part of my chart is lighting up in my head, I know I'm operating from a place of authenticity. (I use it to keep my 3rd house Saturn from ruining my life)
I'm constantly self-referencing
More and more details of my chart make sense as I integrate more of my identity via soul retrieval
It's like when you go to an optometrist to get fitted for glasses...the eye chart becomes clearer the more they tweak that thing you're looking through
It's an organic process for me. And it's the same when I get into someone else's chart. As I get closer to that person, more of their chart is intuitively unlocked for me.
There are people out there who you can pay for a chart analysis where they give you everything upfront, in an academic manner. Not everybody treats it as a living process of uncovering like I do.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23762211 - 10/22/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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pachoo said: OOooooooo hey Cat can you see anything in mine based off my chart?
Fennario, yea you can tell a bunch from your chart honestly. If you want I can post some stuff from my books about you as well. I haven't started 'astrology stalking' any of you yet haha but I will get there.
I don't feel like it right now
Not ruling it out in the future though
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Lucis] 2
#23762478 - 10/22/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fennario,
Sun sign is Taurus Rising sign is Taurus Mars in Taurus Mercury in Taurus Venus in Gemini Moon in Virgo Pluto in Libra Saturn in Scorpio Uranus in Sagittarius Jupiter in Sagittarius Neptune in Sagittarius
Sun and Rising in Taurus suggests how you appear on the surface. You have a stubborn personality, you can get hurt easily and hate to show it. You like to look fresh and clean and presentable. You have a love for comfort and the finer things in life and anything that disrupts that is like satan to you. Very down to earth person as the Taurus sign suggests.
Mars is the planet of action and since it's in taurus you have a knack to be extremely persistent and steadfast in your endeavors until you get what you want. Anyone who hurts your feelings and destroys your comfort in the slightest bit will get rampaged over. That's just the personality of the bull. Very physical being since Taurus is a sign about being grounded on to the earth.
Mercury in Taurus - Mercury is how you communicate and investigate things. Since it's in Taurus you're most likely well versed in speech and people find you easy to listen to. You may be funny also. Again, taurus are very down to earth people and when you speak people will usually get you since you can relate with the norm. Also, you're only interested in solid information that you can see and touch. Not really into things you can't see or things that disrupt your comfort zone.
Venus is the planet of love and it's in your Gemini. This can indicate that you use words very well in order to get a person to fall in love with you. You can pull of phone sex and cyber sex and get people off pretty easily (you should have ghost sex with 100the cat). The twins in the planet of love can also indicate a romantic and dark side to your love life as the twins represent duality in some cases.
Moon is in virgo. Suggests that your subconscious mind is extremely analytical. And overly critical. You beat yourself up and others over what's right (by your standards). Although virgo is the planet of virginity you're probably freaky as fuck up in that head of yours.
Anyways I'm running out of time and interest to figure everything else out. I'm by no means an astrologer and I don't really care for astrology. I was just bored. Take what you will out of it.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Leviticus969]
#23762494 - 10/22/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Actually Fennario your rising sign isnt Taurus. It's not even listed on that chart I don't think. Scratch that.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt] 1
#23762501 - 10/22/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kurt said: Where can I get info like that on fire tiger?
Also Pachoo, do you have any experience with vedic astrology? I've never known where to start.
The Tiger, the living symbol of strength and power, generally inspires fear and respect. Tigers' compelling dynamism, intense activity, independence and curiosity about others make them irresistible, persons of multiple charms; Tigers attract followers and admirers. The Tiger is courageous, active and self-assured, and makes an excellent leader and protector. However liberal-minded Tigers may be, they are passionate, rash, and resist the authority of others. Although they are selfish in the little things, they are capable of great generosity, even of altruism, in the larger. Tigers are men and women of action, thrust by destiny into the spotlight.
Tigers are fearless creatures in as much as they blind themselves to dangers and impetuously rush in where more cautious individuals would fear to tread. Outspoken in the face of injustice, their strong humanitarian instincts will not allow them to pass by if they see a wrong perpetrated upon another.
Tigers tend to renounce confining traditional roles, opting for a more unfettered life. With a wide ranging mind, they can adopt any number of careers. Their many experiences serve to enrich their life and add depth to their nature. Material benefits matter little to them.
Tigers have an inborn magnetic personality that attracts people to them like bees to honey. Warm-hearted, sociable and friendly, they are characterized by their frank, honest and open approach. Their immense kindness and generosity will always shine through except when crossed or backed into a corner, for then they can become vehement and ferocious.
Solitude is often the price Tigers pay for their position of authority, but they become accustomed to it. Better still, they draw on the experience, gaining new energies and great strength.
Chinese say the life of a Tiger born at night will be less hectic than that of Tigers born after dawn and above all, those born around midday. It will be a stormy life full of dangers, but the Tiger will never be bored. Neither Night Tiger nor Day Tiger will have an easy life. The Western term for a particularly fierce woman is "dragon lady," but the Chinese call her an "old tiger lady." For this reason some Chinese avoid having children in the Tiger Year -- for fear of having a daughter.
The lucky Tiger represents the greatest power on earth, and is the emblem of protection for human life. A Tiger in the house minimizes the Three Great Risks -- thieves, fire, and evil spirits. If there are two Tigers in the house, however, one of them has to go!
He finds it hard to contain his boundless energy and enthusiasm. He is always ready for action and movement. His energy gives him a dramatic theatricality as he does nothing by half-measures. He is independent, unconventional and thoroughly optimistic.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: deff]
#23762707 - 10/22/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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can't say I'm too educated about astrology, but it does seem to sometimes offer quite accurate depictions of traits and such 
Possibilities I notice right away:
Problems with friends/groups (Pluto in hard aspect to multiple planets in 11th house)
Physical abuse or violence (maybe even rape or torture) (Pluto square Mars), perhaps having to do with personal possessions or money (2nd house Pluto)
Overbearing father (Pluto square sun)
Romantic relationships are dangerous (Pluto square Venus)
Strict parents or home life, perhaps time in foster care (Saturn conjunct IC)
You may have moved a lot in childhood (4th house Uranus)...or something about the home life was unusual, maybe a commune or group home or something
There was something Neptunian about the home life...escapist caregivers (drugs, alcohol, spirituality, anything associated with getting lost in fantasy, could even be a penchant for cinema), or maybe the home was haunted
Sagittarius IC with the other home stuff makes me think of a religious boarding school...or an environment/family with a similar dynamic going on
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23762753 - 10/22/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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pachoo said: So for the astro.com.... after you put in your information there are numerous free charts that you can read that can be spooky spot on or just interesting. Either way, I think it is pretty neat. There is also charts that you can bring up in the free horoscopes that you can save and share if you want to. I just erased the birth information on the upper left. Here's mine.....

My western astrology signs are :
Sun - Scorpio Moon - Capricorn Ascendant - Aries Mercury - Scorpio Venus - Scorpio Mars - Libra Jupiter - Aries Saturn - Sagittarius Uranus - Sagittarius Neptune - Capricorn Pluto - Scorpio True Node - Aries
Most of the outer planets will be similar to those of your age range.
For my Mayan Dreamspell one I am Yellow Spectral Star. 
For my Tzolkin it is with day sign IX/Jaguar with galactic tone 9/Patience and my trecana sign is Death. I haven't really read the Tree of Life path before for the Tzolkin but here's the pic it gave me and it's pretty neat to read.

7th house Pluto
Marriage from hell
But at least you attract partners who are aggressively diplomatic and romantic (Libra Mars conjunct descendant)
You may have to watch for them being passive aggressive
Or they might bring out this tendency in you
Early in life your partners will have power over you, but this dynamic will reverse over time
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23762857 - 10/23/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I guess there's going to be a bit of doom and gloom, focusing on Pluto...
It might be good to add that Pluto is a generational influence, like all the "outer" planets. It is the slowest moving through the zodiac. It is the most deep and potentially penetrating influence, you might say.
Theoretically, relations with Pluto will have broad connotations having to do with one's time and place, along with what a person may particularly encounter though.
Hopefully this makes sense. For a lot of people here, (maybe everyone) they will be born with Pluto in the sign of Scorpio.
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http://www.alwaysastrology.com/pluto-in-scorpio.html
1735-1747 and 1983-1995 (Generation Y)
Pluto in Scorpio is ruled by strong emotions. Not only do they react according to their own emotions, but they can understand how others feel as well. They are drawn to activities that will involve them emotionally. Intensity is the key word for them.
Scorpio Pluto knows how to bring things that are hidden out into the light. They fight for human rights and they have a talent for helping the unconventional become accepted. Topics that capture their interest may include the occult, sex, the mind, death, genetic engineering and cloning.
Scorpio Pluto may tend towards dark thoughts. They naturally filter out the good and happy things, focusing on the darker, secret motives of those around us. They may feel that they know best in every situation. On the other hand, individuals born with Pluto in Scorpio may try to remain positive so strongly that they find themselves in denial, finding out when it is too late about all that was happening right under their noses.
Their emotional courage, deep understanding and the ability to face their own wounds as well as those they have given to others can create a strong person you want on your side. They can be rather manipulative or controlling at times. They tend to question all the rules and may feel oppressed by the status quo. Their passionate natures incline them to experience as much as possible. They also have great willpower. They can focus on gaining wealth and power if so inclined.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23762896 - 10/23/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: So I'm too busy hating myself to share my stuff at the current moment... And it might be a while...
But I find the best predictors of personality are the zodiac, the Mayan signature, and the MBTI personality test. I don't think any are "wrong" but rather they are measuring different parts of the vast array of characteristics that make us who we are.
Have you tried the secret language? It says I'm a genius.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23762903 - 10/23/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I've got a Saturn-Pluto conjunction straddling my IC that squares a Capricorn moon
Plus Jupiter in Scorpio in my 4th house
Doom and gloom is daily reality for me
I've overheard my mother point a gun at my dad and make him get on his knees and beg for his life (she has a 7th house Pluto)
I've seen the rubble from my dad bashing out half a wall with a sledgehammer in a rage
I've been physically tortured by my parents
I've been psychologically tortured by my parents
I've witnessed a terrorist attack from my bedroom window
I've been punched in the face for no reason
I've been forcibly raped on more than one occasion
I've been homeless
I've been in a relationship with someone who claimed to have killed 3 people and confessed it to me with a hell of a lot of details
I can't even remember everything else off the top of my head right now
But that's all Pluto stuff...either natal or transits
It definitely affects your life
I know Pluto square Mars brings a potential for physical torture, for example, because I was tortured during a Pluto square Mars transit. A person who has this natally is under this influence all the time.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23762967 - 10/23/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry for those experiences you have had. It seems like you have walked through the walks of life. I went through a period of homelessness although I called it backpacking when people asked.
I think you were right to look into that in the charts you did. I just wanted to add, in case it seemed hard for anyone to process the information; it can help to see that what one steps into, relates to generational influences.
It is probably little compared to what you are describing, but I have a few hard saturn aspects that I learned in part comes from my relation to my Dad, (that's an easy interpretation) and then, as I learn, from his issues with his Dad, kind of vicious cycle-wise (the deeper insight) Also, my saturn influence conjuncts with my mars, and it leads me to a lot of anger about my situations and "inheritance" sometimes.
Anyway, that would be the closest I can relate. Pluto would be different, deeper blood. I agree with what you say about interpreting through life. I'm sure Saturn is a lot easier to deal with than Pluto, on that token...
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23763111 - 10/23/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tried living on the street (in a train station actually). I'm not physical enough anymore to pull it off, plus it comes with sexual predators. I admire anyone who can do it, it's one of those merit badges I will never have.
During my Pluto square Venus transit, aside from the killer lady, I was sucked into a friendship with one of my other neighbors in the homeless system, a former crack addict/alcoholic/prostitute who had lived under a bush in a park. She wanted to be more than friends. She considered herself my mother too. She set her ex-husband on fire from the neck down and did 2 years in jail for attempted murder but was released because the guy said he deserved it.
The killer I dated was an active crack addict. All 3 victims were male, 2 were revenge killings for rape or attempted rape, the third was self-defense over drugs, the guy was stabbing her in her calves. I can't remember all the details now but first one she bludgeoned to death in a motel room, second one she shot in the head, third one she stomped on the guy's skull. I believed everything she said because I witnessed her be very violent at the drop of a hat on pretty much a daily basis. She asked me to marry her after knowing me for only 3 days, and I put my life in danger by saying no. I dated her for a few months, had to extract myself very carefully when breaking up by manipulating her to think she deserved better.
The last relationship of that transit was with a guy who used to make 6 figures selling counterfeit goods on ebay, which is illegal. Also had some kind of iPhone scheme going on that got him in trouble with local Apple or AT&T stores...can't remember which. Every time I went over to his house I felt raped because sex was very forceful...clothes ripped off before I even had time to protest. I'm not into physical sex so it was very unpleasant for me, it was actually the last straw...the thing that gave me enough of an incentive to plunge headfirst into spectrophilia.
I'm just glad I don't have that aspect natally
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23763131 - 10/23/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The last guy -- the ebay guy -- in synastry we had Pluto square Mars going on between us. I read a description of this going into the relationship but didn't heed the warning. I wasn't taking astrology fatalistically enough yet. After I dumped him, I spent 3 years fantasizing about killing him.
I have a serious grudge against ENTJs and people with Venus in Scorpio now. In an effort to protect myself, of course.
I have this feeling all Pluto-Mars synastry contacts are bad news unless you're so physically highly sexed that you want the rape experience on a regular basis. I'm fine with getting raped by ghosts but not people.
Just want to clarify, this guy wasn't the forcible rape I mentioned earlier...those are separate
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#23763525 - 10/23/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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deff said: here's mine 

can't say I'm too educated about astrology, but it does seem to sometimes offer quite accurate depictions of traits and such 
Possibilities I notice right away:
Problems with friends/groups (Pluto in hard aspect to multiple planets in 11th house)
Physical abuse or violence (maybe even rape or torture) (Pluto square Mars), perhaps having to do with personal possessions or money (2nd house Pluto)
Overbearing father (Pluto square sun)
Romantic relationships are dangerous (Pluto square Venus)
Strict parents or home life, perhaps time in foster care (Saturn conjunct IC)
You may have moved a lot in childhood (4th house Uranus)...or something about the home life was unusual, maybe a commune or group home or something
There was something Neptunian about the home life...escapist caregivers (drugs, alcohol, spirituality, anything associated with getting lost in fantasy, could even be a penchant for cinema), or maybe the home was haunted
Sagittarius IC with the other home stuff makes me think of a religious boarding school...or an environment/family with a similar dynamic going on
hi, thanks for your interpretation, though most of it is not at all the case of my life 
no physical abuse or violence, father is definitely not overbearing, no time in foster care nor strict parents, only moved once in my childhood and only a short distance away - nothing unusual with my home life that way, parents were not escapists and don't have any of those habits, don't think the home is haunted - we had the house built ourselves, no religious boarding school - was not raised religious really
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: deff] 2
#23764640 - 10/23/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Although it can be impressive and fun to guess peoples signs, predictive astrology is not actually as powerful as self interpretation. This is increasingly possible today too, with the technology and access of information. The delphic oracle, who spoke to the philosopher Socrates said "know thyself", and for me astrology has always worked like that.
My issue with prediction is not so much a matter of it being accurate or true or not, but that it sets up a kind of knowledge relationship between the interpreter and the person being interpreted, or the person and him or herself, an emphasis on knowledge claim. But self knowledge is largely interpretive, in its basis.
For instance I can relate a story from my own experience intepreting. I remember when I first met my girlfriend I showed her the best I knew how to interpret her astrology chart. At first, I knew it impressed her to be knowledgeable in that sort of way, but I tried not to be like that. It mostly turned out to be the way we sort of just were, the way we vibrate, and astrology can move us to be "in tune" with the planets. As time went on, I knew since how I felt, I couldn't do her astrology at all, even if she asked...Anything I knew would be better poetry than fate. Self interpretation in astrology (along with a great practice of self interpretation in general) will often be of things people already know. Even when you get to doing transits, (the way the planets and zodiac changes overhead in relation to aspects) there is only so much influence one can add to the way things are or are playing out. So I lean to think knowledge is not so much a power, mostly a poetic/inteperpretive resonance that is there.
I think Cat is partly on point, but her reading may have been a bit particular, which is why it didn't hold. One thing I'd say, you can self interpret, as pointed out, is how you will shine in a community or social group, or among friends. You seem to have that reputation around here, at the shroomery to me. 11th house, is the house of joining and community, where your sun (your "self"), mars (your "fight") venus ("friendship/love") all rest.
The red and blue lines connecting the planets, are aspects. They exist between planets as tensions and harmonies in life. Blue lines are easy, and red are more difficult. This is what begins more to describe particularities. Pluto (the P symbol is easy to pick out) will add a level of intensity to you, especially since it is a square to those planets in your 11th house. I am not sure how I would interpret that intensity in particular ways from such a removed perspective. Pluto is very easy and very difficult to interpret, because it stands so much for fate itself. I'd say cat was right to point it out as somehow significant, but maybe you could self intepret? Clearly this may be true for anyone, but you might particularly feel a sense of fate in your personal path, especially somehow in your sense of belonging or community. Or maybe not, but what your chart might say is to look to your 11th house for something important. (PS Everyone has an 11th house, but you might find things are "happening" there)
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_dgelevhouse_e.htm
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#23764791 - 10/23/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks for the information Kurt there is certainly a lot to explore, and a lot more complexity to astrology than I was familiar with. I don't feel particularly inclined at this time to make too much of a study of it - some things so far as traits have rung true, others not so much.
personally I tend towards a less deterministic view of things I think than is possible to form around astrology, and am not so sold on the idea of life events being determined by a natal chart entirely. the analogy that resonates with me would be incarnational life being akin to playing an rpg (role playing game) video game where prior to starting you design your character with certain traits etc... so for instance certain astrological proclivities and also genetic factors, choosing your parents, life path and events, karmic themes etc... and then from there you have the chance to play it out with whatever skill you bring from past plays of the game, to hopefully gain greater mastery of this level of being. but I don't think life makes as much sense, to me anyways, if a natal chart determined as much as is sometimes asserted in terms of events. but I know that many people find it a great resource, so it is certainly interesting to me
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23764861 - 10/23/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well there's the issue of literal vs figurative too and self-awareness.
I went to a palm reader at my high school afterprom
I didn't know anything about this stuff, didn't really believe in it either
I figured it was all made up for money but I didn't have anything to lose cuz it was free at this event
She asked me if I had problems with my family...I said no, because I had no idea yet that I'd been abused or there was anything abnormal about it (now I understand I have the family from hell and I was horrifically abused). I thought I had the perfect childhood
I told her I was about to move to NYC for college. She said I'd only be able to stay for a few years, then I'd have to leave (true -- stayed 6 years, left against my will). She said after that there would be great tragedy in my life (true -- I moved back in with my family and underwent the worst abuse yet (torture years), got fired from a bunch of jobs, my family lost their house to foreclosure because the IRS took my dad's entire paycheck several times in a row for not filing taxes for 6 years, almost hung myself to escape my parents' abuse, spent 3 weeks in a crisis stabilization unit because the cops came to get me when I attacked my mom (she deserved it), went into the homeless system for 4 years to get away from my parents, lost my place there because I wouldn't get a paying job, tried to live on the street, ended up back with my family)
Palm reader said if I could just hold on through the tragedy, I'd end up back in NYC and be wealthy and famous for music. Interesting because even back during the time of this reading, my secret dream was to be a star. I said, "Are you sure it isn't design? Cuz I'm going to design school..." She said, "No, it's not design, it's definitely music."
So that last part makes sense astrologically because I have a 10th house Taurus sun. But it's conjunct Chiron, so it'll probably never happen. It's totally unrealistic for me -- I'm not a doer. I think it's more likely that I'll be facilitating the realization of this dream for others, via some kind of healing function.
Do I consider what she said to be wrong? No. She was just throwing symbols/concepts out there for me to work with and flesh out as I get older.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23765046 - 10/23/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Example of literal/figurative spectrum:
Saturn conjunct IC -- foster care (lack of parents, lack of nurturing home life)
I have Saturn conjunct my IC and I was never literally in foster care, but I was so incompatible with my own family that I used to ask my mom when I was little if I was adopted. Psychologically it was like being in foster care.
I met a woman recently with Saturn conjunct IC who literally spent time in foster care
Also makes me think of a military family
Anything that brings a Capricorn flavor to the home environment
Something about it is bare bones...
(If I could have any house I wanted, I'd pick something minimalistic, I can't stand having more than necessary in my dwelling...I'd rather see empty drawers than junk drawers, I prefer the atmosphere of a home when I've just moved in, before anything has been unpacked...I love how stripped down and empty hotel rooms are)
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat] 2
#23765305 - 10/23/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree, Cat, on the question of the literal/figuretive spectrum.
This thread was probably going to touch on the general question of fatalism, which some people find in astrology, and others do not in general, so much, and that might be related. For instance I didn't mean that astrology was itself generally fatalistic, just that some people find pluto above all to be one of the deepest astrological influences, and may be what people find most easily interpretable as fatalistic. Pluto, is what people read as fate (also power sex, and other deep resonances).
Philosophically speaking (aside from astrology) I would say it would depend on what people mean by fate, for me to indulge such an idea, beyond a healthy skepticism.
To start with, a theoretical determinism doesn't work to explain anything in general. I can only think it is a basically mistaken notion out front, to identify so much with any theory determining reality. Isn't it clear it is humans that conventionally or theoretically "determine" things, in whatever concept? Or do people now say nature determines or is deterministic? People identify with ideas in a broad way, and there are many causal determinists who take their position, and the paradigm they identify with as most reasonable. This "modern" idea of fate as determinism is interesting because it seems clear, such determinism comes from the way modern people theoretically conceive and strongly identify with the world in terms of their knowledge of it, and yet they project something from that as an ideal intelligibility of things, (a "determining" nature), which is actually just speculative. I do not even know what to say, to anyone's suggestion in that sense. I'd think that is really just an image and myth, what modern people deify, playing itself out, that I don't follow along with. It is not science, but a metaphor and image drawn from it by relation.
As for fate in general though I actually reserve some metaphorical possibility, if the metaphor strikes people in their existence. I think the idea can be a less "mechanical" metaphor, or less deterministic, for instance. I'd think of fate like in Homer's poetry, in the Iliad, where Achilles learns he has an essential choice. He has to decide whether he would fight in the trojan war, and create an immortal legacy - but in that die - or if he would choose not to fight, and live a long and happy life, and have many children and grandchildren. In that sense fate is in a person's existential choice. As it goes, Achilles chose to fight, and created a legacy and narrative that went beyond himself, but as a consequence, dies. Only to be fate, to Achilles it was no choice, but actually, his following the way of his way. Achilles was his fate, because he knew himself.
But fate is not just power or strength. It could also be expressed in ease with oneself, and acceptance, and there is no jutting decision or action to take in ones way. Like Robert Frost wrote:
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth,
Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim, Because it was grassy and wanted wear; Though as for that the passing there Had worn them really about the same...
Fate could be a strong and unwavering narrative that may transcend - by burning through - what we ourselves are, or are wholly aware of at a time. Or it can be in the principle of ease, and least resistence, more passive like water, filling in. The less elemental and more "theoretical" principle of what is known and not known comes into play, when modern people talk about fate in their own lives. Knowledge or what one knows and comes to know can be the narrative. "Determinism" can be fate. I am not sure I would say I believe or do not believe in something like fate, because it usually needs to be broken down a little from a strong principle of knowledge we modern people live by. Achilles had a choice and at the same time he was heroic in that he did not. What is the path in the woods, which diverges, with no moral, of right vs. wrong, better or worse, and with no essential hindsight other than lived life?
So to put it in astrological terms. In the end I think I look to a passiv principle of knowledge, and see the world though interpretation, ie. the self reflective knowledge, and from there I understand how people may indeed have a strong understanding of their path, and convicition, or may be able to easily embrace whatever comes. I'd say there is no argument for fate, there is just poetry.
I would definitely not urge anyone to think anything is determined, in astrology like the way an apple fell on Issac Newton's head like a mechanical law of gravity. That is too literal. (And there is nothing wrong with identifying with science, in my opinion either, if a person understands its extent and purpose, and where its knowledge based principles begin and end.) Clearly if there is anything going on with the planets, in their different relations, and harmonies, astrologists speak of, it is a different principle. The way people look to a sky and the stars around them is in a much broader sensibility, of simultaneous resonance with these celestial phenomena, and interpreting the human events around them. I'd guess early humans drew figures of animals, like heros in the stars early on, and noticed how the planets (wanderers) moved through these "signs", and people learned to find a correspondences between symbol and life, as a whole. Where there are strong pulls in the planets, (in ones nature) they pull to "fate" to resonance within these interpretive terms, to ease, letting go, or identification and strength. The forces would be more like yin and yang. As modern and reasonably skeptical people, we might recognize explicitlty that this is an interpretive or figurtive correspondence, if anything at all though. Astrologers would clearly interpret the events around them, in broad correspondence rather than force any force of physical reality on people one way or another. Even if the interpretive correspondence in astrology would seem to imply that the planets have "effect" upon us, that has no basis if there is no personal or existential resonance. The sky is what it is whether it is just to look at to interpret, just the same. So it is better to say, astrology is not an interpretation of "force" when it is not exactly dealing with those forces, on a human level first.
If there are fates in general, likewise, in view of life, I think it can't be without regards to one's existential way of being. We regard that, choice that diverging of the tree branches, or the stream or the path is of life, in its most basic sense, and people begin there. That to me is nothing astrological, so I would say I have much respect for all who come to the existential, and the essential in general.
As for astrology, to me freedom is in figurtive interpretability. When conveying this, the challenge seems to be in giving someone new, with interest, enough information to work with, without it being too much. It is best to work with the general, and what resonates, in my opinion, and allow the particulars to come and appear in themselves without need of elaboration, because that is life.
Anyway... although she won't remember it probably, I actually remember Pachoo telling me in these forums a while ago that you can read the aspects as unresolved or resolving Karma, and I thought that was right on point. It changed the way I saw things. Karma definitely offersmuch to work with, as any good yogi knows...
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23765334 - 10/23/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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For reference (on fate)
Homer, Iliad on "two sorts of destiny":
"[Akhilleus (Achilles) speaks :] ‘For my mother Thetis the goddess of the silver feet tells me I carry two sorts of destiny toward the day of my death. Either, if I stay here and fight beside the city of the Trojans, my return home is gone, but my glory shall be everlasting; but if I return home to the beloved land of my fathers, the excellence of my glory is gone, but there will be a long life left for me, and my end in death will not come to me quickly.’"
Achilles and Thetis on a Grecian Urn
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#23765364 - 10/23/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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it reminds me of the idea of what intuitives speak of when they talk about how they see a person's life path. I've heard several mention that they see life lines that branch off from one another, different potential timelines, and so the further into the future one is to look, the less likely that a given reported outcome will come to pass - and so the issue of predictions is usually in terms of probabilities. I know one person who said that the more 'awake' and spiritually aware a person is, the more likely that their life paths have many potential off-shoots, as they are much more likely to deviate from a more autonomous traversing of their life. I've also come across the idea that these different timelines represent different parallel versions of ourselves, that when there is a choice of two options there exists two different realities where each option is chosen - which is akin to the many-worlds interpretation in physics interesting to think about
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: deff] 2
#23765455 - 10/23/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice. Heres another great image, on life and branching

From the the Indian Epic, the Bhagavad Gita on the principle of Karma yoga; (or "way of action"); as the god and chariot driver Krishna's advice to Arjuna:
"You have a right to perform your prescribed duties, but you are not entitled to the fruits of your actions. Never consider yourself to be the cause of the results of your activities, nor be attached to inaction."
I have been thinking of this one alot. It is difficult to interpret karma or being the "cause of the results of your activities" (which many would say is self evident), but I would say it might mean thinking of the relation of action and egoic identification, or by the image (fruit and seed) understanding what lets the karma as initial "arising" come to another generation...
Karma wise, I used to have a reaction to anything remotely puritan sounding so this one was a difficulty . That's what it is like being raised catholic I guess. "Do not desire but act?" Or in other words, "assume duty over desire?" But now to me this sounds more like the way of burning through something like a wick. The way held of both knowledge and action in balance. That means let what comes up come up and pass in its natural way, as it will, (which is not harshly against enjoying things I think) but work, and exert effort with all results through principled action.
I think I could just as easily think of some great maxims from Eckhart Tolle who I have been reading, but then I might be pulling Pachoos thread offcourse... But yeah fate or karma, seems to be a sticky if interesting subject, potentially very relavent to life (and its many interpretations)!
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23765480 - 10/23/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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"You have a right to perform your prescribed duties, but you are not entitled to the fruits of your actions"

excellent point. ha, i was just talking with someone about this very concept, not too long ago, and here i find out it's laid out in the Gita. lol, cool.
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#23765494 - 10/23/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't buy into astrology, checked out the mayan one though and some aspects of it sounded right, but they're pretty general. Got 'wind' "Personality: Talkative, mental, agile, intelligent and versatile. Idealistic and romantic. Fashion conscious or artist.
You have a strong, sincere, harmonious personality that can live sudden changes. Because you are able to make quick changes people may sometimes think you are inconsistent or fickle. You are unpredictable like the wind and have a hyper nature. Your extreme imagination and ideas keeps your feet off the ground. However, you must learn to be tranquil, centered and balanced. [...] Spirit and breath of life. The Wind blows life to matter and brings new awareness to the world with its messages. You carry the power to spread good seeds and ideas. For example, you can talk about spirituality in a very inspirational way for hours without feeling a bit tired. However, you must be careful about the messages you share. You are very talented in communications and can be very successful in this line of business. [...] The Wind that gives us life and keeps us alive (called “prana” in India) symbolizes the essence of life. [...] You must be careful not to have sudden bursts of anger. [...] The Wind sign is behind the power of natural cycles of weather, erosion and cultural change. [...] Challenge: Responsibilities and fears associated with it, indecision, not being able to commit.[...] Solution: Education and learning how to communicate better.[...] Signs that contribute to your growth: Wind, Jaguar, Knife, Death and the Dog[...]"
seems good enough, all the western ones seem like a lot of work...
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Ezuma]
#23765548 - 10/23/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i believe the only real aspect of western astrology that can be attributed to an accurate assessment (of what said astrological mapping is supposed to grant the purveyor) is in natal astrology, ie, the coordination of your exact date of birth to astrological charts, giving you a summery of what is "supposed to be" your life path from birth.
and i don't think it's predictive, or even supposed to be. i believe it gives a person an archetype of human behavior that is cemented into the mythological basis for the rest of the archetypes within the zodiac, and that with which you use to provide a starting point for your assessment within those archetypes, in order for insight into how to view yourself in accordance with other people in your life, or in general.
that's my honest opinion: i don't think mundane astrology or predictive astrology is a matter of reality. but natal astrology contains the basis for the practice, as it has been conceived by the creators of the archetypes.
psychological astrology is an interesting practice, too, though. a work in progress, methinks.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: akira_akuma]
#23765893 - 10/24/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Plutonian concept
This guy has a Scorpio moon conjunct Pluto
Pluto is also sextile Saturn, Venus, and Mars
Pluto is the first thing I look at in a person's chart
If their Pluto doesn't tell me a story it's like I can't understand them
It's a way in to the rest of the chart
Oh...one book I do have is The Book of Pluto by Steven Forrest
I totally forgot about that
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23765987 - 10/24/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i am a Scorpio in Pluto too.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23766111 - 10/24/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lucky me I have my Sun in Scorpio and my sun conjuncts Pluto. As well as my Sun and Pluto in my 7th house. Scorpio is in my Sun, Venus, Mercury and Pluto. And my Neptune is sextile Pluto. Although my sexual or relationship tendencies are far from torture or craziness. I suffer from some mental illness and I can be immensely stubborn and emotional but I don't hold people hostage or torture them. I am quite gentle with my loving but I will admit that it can be pretty intense perhaps. I don't know. I'm pretty much an all or nothing kind of person in love.
It is very interesting to note if someone has the Pluto - Ascendant aspects as this in the chart can bring out the more extreme sexual side. From deep loyalty and love all the way down to stalking, possession, dominance, rape, and torture.
Pluto Conjunct Ascendant will be very magnetic and impossible to say no to. Very sexually driven but incredibly loyal and loving but incredibly intense. Famous people with this aspect is Kurt Cobain, Judy Garland and Glenn Close.
Pluto Sextile/Trine Ascendant will usually released through creative expression and they can also become immersed in their work all the way to burning out. It can also have violent tendencies. Among famous people with this is Frida Kahlo, Shania Twain and also Aileen Wuornos.
Pluto Square/Opposite Ascendant is more stalkerish and torturous. It can feed into fetishism and a double sided sexual appetite. Most of these people might even have an image of normalcy but behind closed doors can get into some pretty kinky stuff. Some even feign the victim of relationships only to hop into another and become the torturer. Famous people with this aspect is George Blake, Brad Pitt, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and John Rechy.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23766137 - 10/24/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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For those that would like to see more of the planetary aspects you can find yours in the astro.com. Go to the Personal Portrait where it gives your basic astrological psychology. And going towards the bottom where your astrological data is at... Look at the major aspects. Mine looks like this....
Major aspects Sun Conjunction Mercury Sun Sextile Neptune Sun Conjunction Pluto Moon Sextile Venus Moon Square Jupiter Mercury Sextile Neptune Venus Quincunx Jupiter Mars Sextile Saturn Mars Opposition Ascendant Jupiter Trine Saturn Jupiter Trine Uranus Saturn Conjunction Uranus Saturn Trine Ascendant Neptune Sextile Pluto
I actually just found a really good website that has more stuff about it and the darkside of the aspects. (It is not quite complete so you may not find some of your major aspects. I already can't find 3 of mine.)
Darkstar Astrology Major Aspects
(I will also post this one and add the books and websites that everyone has mentioned thus far to the original post. It might take a bit because I also would like to add my books in there. Also I wonder if some of you philosophy shroomerites might take interest in two books that I have on astrology.)
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#23766161 - 10/24/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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city of the niiight...O city of the niiiight!
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23766956 - 10/24/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am mostly Pisces, which goes with a cancer moon and Scorpio Pluto. But then there is Sagitarrius (a fire sign) making things interesting.
Other than that there is a little more going on. Neptune in Capricorn. And I have Chiron in the 12th house, which I usually add in... I will never understand it probably, but Chiron can be pretty important, so I fit it in.

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Looks like this thread is getting warmed up...
Pachoo, you have an interesting scope! I will always wonder what it is like to have alot going on in Scorpio. You must be a powerful lady
I always wished I could have a little more Scorpio going on. I'll live with my Pluto being in Scorpio (like many people) though. Actually, I think I'd be in a little trouble if it weren't for Scorpio...
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23767288 - 10/24/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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pachoo said: Lucky me I have my Sun in Scorpio and my sun conjuncts Pluto. As well as my Sun and Pluto in my 7th house. Scorpio is in my Sun, Venus, Mercury and Pluto. And my Neptune is sextile Pluto. Although my sexual or relationship tendencies are far from torture or craziness. I suffer from some mental illness and I can be immensely stubborn and emotional but I don't hold people hostage or torture them. I am quite gentle with my loving but I will admit that it can be pretty intense perhaps. I don't know. I'm pretty much an all or nothing kind of person in love.
It is very interesting to note if someone has the Pluto - Ascendant aspects as this in the chart can bring out the more extreme sexual side. From deep loyalty and love all the way down to stalking, possession, dominance, rape, and torture.
Pluto Conjunct Ascendant will be very magnetic and impossible to say no to. Very sexually driven but incredibly loyal and loving but incredibly intense. Famous people with this aspect is Kurt Cobain, Judy Garland and Glenn Close.
Pluto Sextile/Trine Ascendant will usually released through creative expression and they can also become immersed in their work all the way to burning out. It can also have violent tendencies. Among famous people with this is Frida Kahlo, Shania Twain and also Aileen Wuornos.
Pluto Square/Opposite Ascendant is more stalkerish and torturous. It can feed into fetishism and a double sided sexual appetite. Most of these people might even have an image of normalcy but behind closed doors can get into some pretty kinky stuff. Some even feign the victim of relationships only to hop into another and become the torturer. Famous people with this aspect is George Blake, Brad Pitt, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and John Rechy.
It could be that the person attracts torture to them, or maybe they like tying people up in bed.
Madonna has Pluto conjunct Asc too
I have Pluto square Asc. The pattern I've noticed is I start off getting treated like shit (dominated, abuse of power), then at some point the entire dynamic reverses and the other person acts like a big baby over it (they can't handle it), and I'm just like, "How do you think I felt the whole time you were being an asshole?" I can't feel bad for the person at all because I've already been their victim.
Instead of switching roles between relationships, the whole thing seems to play out entirely within each relationship, with me starting out the victim (I'm giving people a chance to treat me with respect without me having to unleash my boss side...I know how shitty it feels to be dominated and I try to spare people that experience...inevitably the person proves to me they've had it too easy in life and an asskicking is exactly what they need. There's some Saturn flavor in there because of my Saturn-Pluto conjunction)
It's like I'm such an asshole I completely disown that part of myself going in. So it's being acted out by the other person. This puts so much strain on me I have no choice but to eventually take it back.
I always try to lace asskicking with asskissing to reduce my chances of being the victim of a crime of passion or revenge killing...unless I've been pushed beyond all self-control and am in kamikaze mode (that's usually only brought out by my mom or Pluto transits)
It's my words that motivate people to violence...I don't have to lay a hand on anyone
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23767562 - 10/24/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kurt said: Anyway... although she won't remember it probably, I actually remember Pachoo telling me in these forums a while ago that you can read the aspects as unresolved or resolving Karma, and I thought that was right on point. It changed the way I saw things. Karma definitely offersmuch to work with, as any good yogi knows...
Did I say that? Well that seems pretty smart of me. Hahaha Almost too smart... Are you suuure it was me? Makes alot of sense when I think about it again. There was something I just added to the original post as well that everyone might enjoy. It's about Lilith moving around in your chart. There's also three aspects to her as well. When I found one of the websites detailing it I found that it was also moved by karmic debt and our challenges in lives.
To find your Lilith... You can use astro.com (Isn't this site freaking useful?!) and go to the EXTENDED CHART SELECTION, go down to ADDITIONAL OBJECTS and click on Lilith, and also input 1181 (Lilith) h13 (Black Moon Lilith) and h58 (Dark Moon Lilith).
And you can also go a very easy way and just look it up based on your day of birth in this link...
Wicked Witch Lilith
Then just clicking the sign that your birthday falls in between. Mine ended up being Lilith in Leo.
The person enjoys giving praise to the object of her love and the fruits of her labor, but she requires a similar attitude towards her from people for whom she does not feel a strong passion. She behaves like a narcissistic poseur, self-centered and ambitious, abusing her power, an attitude that emanates from an exaggerated sense of the importance of her presence in the world. The person may also boast, show arrogance and have a tendency to take too much on herself. She is possessed by a frequent desire to give lessons and does not like children. She tends to play the game of the love slave or to impose this role on her partner.
The provocative roles are played by brilliant and remarkable people, perhaps children.
The inferior level
The person is possessed by vanity and excessive pride, she is jealous and takes revenge on all those who are talented. She behaves like an impostor, an upstart and uses sex, Eros, for malicious purposes. This is the karma of a gambler, a party animal, a Don Juan, a pimp, a molester or a child killer. In a previous life, the person may have abused some great power she had, such as a hierarchical position without equal, could have hurt her loved ones, or, more simply, was self-centered, exuberant or buried her talent. She could have been the keeper of a brothel or of a drug den. In this life, the person is attracted to debauchery, prostitution, pornography, gambling and to the vandalism of artworks.
The intermediate level
The person is the one enduring misfortunes at the hands of powerful people and treacherous and vengeful enemies. Her punishment can be infertility or sufferings associated with romantic failures. If she is talented, some parvenus with wounded vanity get jealous and take revenge on her. In a previous life, the person has abused her authority, was too egocentric and was using her talents at the detriment of others. Perhaps was she unfair to children or has she abandoned her own child. In her current incarnation, she may have conflicts with her own children, or children in general may mock her. Her entourage and the events in general will cast a shadow on her reputation. Dangers for her come from fire, weapons, sunburn, a stroke, and she runs a great risk of getting ridiculed and to incur public shame. One must not suffer from unrequited love, but should take more care of the education of children without expecting any specific gratitude from them.
The superior level
At this level, the person perceives the manifestations of evil in the arts and entertainment industry. She harmonizes her relationship with children and feels no gnawing envy towards celebrities, people in power or those receiving honors. The person wages an uncompromising war against vulgarity and pornography, protecting the young from the harmful effects of civilization and from empty sensual entertainments. The person consciously purifies love from covetousness, exercises enlightened creativity and takes responsibility for her children, for her creations and for her love. At this level, the person acquires excellent acting skills, allowing her to easily turn the heads of strangers and to charm them.
The main commandment: do not seek power, do not aspire to glory and give everything to children without expecting gratitude.
Quite ironically I used to have thoughts that I would see some of my past lives. One of them was that I was a well-off man who was very indulgent and spent his life spending money on whores and gambling his life away. I cared only for myself and didn't give a crap about anyone else. This lifestyle ended up getting me stabbed in the back by a heartbroken 'friend', or who considered me a friend and I betrayed them for my own gain.
So this karmic Lilith influence actually rang for me a bit.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23767639 - 10/24/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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More Pluto sq Asc
I think the reason I perceive myself as only experiencing relationships where I start out the victim is because if I start out dominating someone, they run away pretty fast. Most people won't put up with that. They might tolerate it long enough to put their dick in you for a one night stand, but then they'll put themselves in their own witness protection program
I think I learned that the only way people would tolerate being around me is if I play the victim role. And once I've had enough and stop playing that role, I have no appeal (because I'm now the abuser)
It's like if you have an abusive boss, and you protest their treatment of you, you get fired. If you have abusive parents and you protest them, you get disowned (but you can come back if you agree to go back into a submissive role). If you have an abusive landlord, and you protest, you get evicted.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo] 2
#23767664 - 10/24/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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@Cat - Ah yes. That makes a bit more sense. I do like a bit of kink in the sheets but I try really hard to make my relationship to be as balanced as possible between dominance and submission. My boyfriend and I are both quite stubborn and shitheads when it comes to our views but we really balance each other out. I tend to be the one on top mostly in the sheets. Haha But I do enjoy being subdued. 
There was actually something that I came across that perhaps you may be interested in... about psychotic tendancies in the chart.
You have a really unique view on astrology Cat. I know it probably def comes from your extreme past and I hate that you had to go through those things even though you feel like you have grown quite spiritually from them. 
@Kurt - Yea there's a ton of Scorpio in that chart it seems. I feel like it just makes me really emotional and intense with emotions haha. But alot of people do seem to gravitate towards me sometimes.
I am really enjoying this thread!! It's almost too good because all the replies seem very thick. I feel like I have to reply even more for discussion. But I really am finding more stuff out there to add. And def keep adding Philosophy and Historical stuff about astrology!! I enjoy reading it and once I get to it I shall post some books that I have doing on it psychologically.
@ Ezuma - Hey I'm Jaguar and have two signs in Death. I got you man! *spiritually evolving magic*
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deff said: it reminds me of the idea of what intuitives speak of when they talk about how they see a person's life path. I've heard several mention that they see life lines that branch off from one another, different potential timelines, and so the further into the future one is to look, the less likely that a given reported outcome will come to pass - and so the issue of predictions is usually in terms of probabilities. I know one person who said that the more 'awake' and spiritually aware a person is, the more likely that their life paths have many potential off-shoots, as they are much more likely to deviate from a more autonomous traversing of their life. I've also come across the idea that these different timelines represent different parallel versions of ourselves, that when there is a choice of two options there exists two different realities where each option is chosen - which is akin to the many-worlds interpretation in physics interesting to think about 
Ah, that reminds me of what I talk about. I feel like you have usually the one path but you revolve in these circles, (like a merry go round and they are all attached at points but all continuously moving around independently), to points in time where you are given opportunity or come in contact with people that can help change you somehow. If you don't take the opportunity you don't continue into another circle and you can also go into another opportunity attached to a another separate circle that takes you onto another path but it all ultimately ends up in some similar end.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23767690 - 10/24/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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100_the_cat said: More Pluto sq Asc
I think the reason I perceive myself as only experiencing relationships where I start out the victim is because if I start out dominating someone, they run away pretty fast. Most people won't put up with that. They might tolerate it long enough to put their dick in you for a one night stand, but then they'll put themselves in their own witness protection program
I think I learned that the only way people would tolerate being around me is if I play the victim role. And once I've had enough and stop playing that role, I have no appeal (because I'm now the abuser)
It's like if you have an abusive boss, and you protest their treatment of you, you get fired. If you have abusive parents and you protest them, you get disowned (but you can come back if you agree to go back into a submissive role). If you have an abusive landlord, and you protest, you get evicted.
Ah, interesting. Do you feel like you want to dominate people in the end though? Would you just be interested in finding someone who is already submissive to get together with? Do you think that might help with your initial feelings on being in a relationship. I think the end product of relationships is to always strike a balance between the partners. Although there is really alot of couples who have made compromises with each other and ended up great.
I also understand that you are fine without a sexual relationship as it is uncomfortable for you in multiple ways and have been sexually fulfilled energetically instead. My questions are just wondering about it, if you don't mind answering.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23767721 - 10/24/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh drat I also meant to give light to another website I found about Lilith in your chart that might also be beneficial for reading. I have also added this one to the original post earlier today.
Astrologija - Lilith in the Signs
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23767941 - 10/24/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It takes too much out of me to try control things or people (it's not sustainable for me), so I'm not a good fit for someone who wants to be dominated
It's also not sustainable for me to be dominated because I'm not capable of playing along for long enough and rage builds up
I don't know what else there is
Compromise to my last boyfriend was "You don't tell me to trim my wick, I won't tell you to trim yours" -- since I refused to shave all my pubic hair off for him (did that shit years ago for many, many unworthy men, I'm over it), I didn't "have the right" to tell him to trim the wicks on his candles, which he left sitting around unattended with huge flames...he was a Libra, worded it as if it was a compromise but it was still unfair to me because my pubic hair wasn't putting his life in danger, whereas the candles were an actual fire hazard that could potentially trap me in a burning building and end my life. Plus shaving is a hell of a lot more time consuming, exhausting, and complicated than trimming a damn candle wick.
And guess what -- that guy didn't groom anywhere. Or cut his toenails. Or own toothpaste. Or empty his cat box. He was the incentive for me to stop bathing. I was like WHY am I doing this for other people when they're not even returning the favor.
So I don't really believe in compromise, somebody always still has the upper hand
I think I'll have to just be in a relationship with energy and stay physically single
When my family dies I'll need somebody to take me in though
Hopefully it'll be a really detached, impersonal thing that the person does in a spirit of philanthropy
The last time somebody took me in he started pulling my clothes off so he could dress me in some frufru thing his fashion designer friend made that I would never wear (he was a stylist), and he wanted me to get all my hair cut off short and dyed blond. I'd just met him! I'd just been on a 20 hour train ride, I was homeless, exhausted. I didn't want my clothes taken off and I had to fight with him over it. I will never cut my hair short again, I was already forced into that by my mother and my hair is a big deal to me since I'm a Leo rising. What I needed was a place to sleep and food. Which I got for one night from him but I had to put up with all that other bullshit. And him trying to have sex with me even though he'd promised the whole way there he wouldn't. (Put me out the next day so he could go to a xmas party...didn't even put me in a cab back to the train station...walked me to the wrong subway station, didn't even give me subway fare even though he was wearing a Rolex and a $600 t-shirt)
That's the kind of thing that always happens. Physically embodied people are really dangerous for me. Not to be trusted.
Bitchfest
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat]
#23768097 - 10/24/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've found that it's probably best for no one to control anyone. You shouldn't have to dominate or be dominated in a relationship. I was mainly talking about sexual tendencies but I don't think I really mentioned that and that's my fault.
Those males in your past seem pretty twisted up about things and I don't blame you for staying away or not staying in the relationships with them. There's def some nutter people out that that think it's ok to make someone their doll or to impose their laws on another. I don't do well with rules or being dominated with my life. I can agree to do certain things they like that gives me pleasure to do as well or is reasonable. But I will not compromise with ridiculousness. The way I look at it is I am my own person and anyone who wants to stay in company with me acknowledges that and respects it and I will do the same for them. Personality-wise I am very very different than my boyfriend but we agree to be with each other because we love each other and respect each others personalities.
That being said, perhaps you should not care about not doing things for another because you were never shown it. Do things for you. And if those things that you do make you happy or have a positive influence on your life then keep doing them.
Can you see any predictions for people who will be a positive influence on you in your chart? I've never gotten the hang of predictive astrology so I can't tell and don't know if you can understand it more.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23768306 - 10/24/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have no idea about predicting positive things
Psychotic tendencies? It's been my mom's mission since I was about 5 years old to invalidate me at every turn (and get away with abuse) by trying to convince me I'm crazy, saying I hallucinate her abuse, so I've had to learn the ins and outs of what actually constitutes psychosis, to decide for myself. (Spending 10+ years in the mental health system, asking upfront about it, and being cleared also helped)
I don't have any spiritual problems, the only place I suffer is the physical world. You won't find me fighting any demons, just people. The only thing that's "delusional" for someone like me is thinking I can have some big career (forget being famous, I'm talking about even being on the level of my mom -- making $60k in an office).
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: 100_the_cat] 1
#23768693 - 10/25/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had a good post to make, but I think I got carried away. :-) Maybe I can get the idea of it.
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pachoo said: (...)
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deff said: it reminds me of the idea of what intuitives speak of when they talk about how they see a person's life path. I've heard several mention that they see life lines that branch off from one another, different potential timelines, and so the further into the future one is to look, the less likely that a given reported outcome will come to pass - and so the issue of predictions is usually in terms of probabilities. I know one person who said that the more 'awake' and spiritually aware a person is, the more likely that their life paths have many potential off-shoots, as they are much more likely to deviate from a more autonomous traversing of their life. I've also come across the idea that these different timelines represent different parallel versions of ourselves, that when there is a choice of two options there exists two different realities where each option is chosen - which is akin to the many-worlds interpretation in physics interesting to think about 
Ah, that reminds me of what I talk about. I feel like you have usually the one path but you revolve in these circles, (like a merry go round and they are all attached at points but all continuously moving around independently), to points in time where you are given opportunity or come in contact with people that can help change you somehow. If you don't take the opportunity you don't continue into another circle and you can also go into another opportunity attached to a another separate circle that takes you onto another path but it all ultimately ends up in some similar end.
This is really good stuff!
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can someone tell me a bit about what this means, i don't know how to read this stuff!
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#23770105 - 10/25/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where's your gosh darn ascendant?! I think it's Aries but I cant be too sure maybe?! And where's your houses? I need a better chart bc I feel brain dead right now!
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#23770145 - 10/25/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wait ... I just realized I can just remake your chart bc of your data in the corner. Is that your real birth time? Bc it really counts to the minute for some things. But it's ok about 10min off. Not too much will change.... maybe.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo]
#23770183 - 10/25/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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really? down to the minute...i just chose unknown for the time....i need to track down my hospital papers to find out my houses and whatnot, properly?
phooey. i didn't know this needed to be so accurate. planets move that fast?
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#23770305 - 10/25/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The earth rotates on an hourly basis, and so your "horizons" change pretty quick. According to astology, which in certain ways is geocentric, (just as it is person-centric) your birth time changes your own orientation to existing planets in certain ways. The planets do not move so fast, but the sightline of the earth and the sky change pretty dramatically nonetheless, on an hourly basis. That is the theory.
Still, your chart can say alot without birthtimes. Maybe Pachoo can tell you a thing or two about Scorpio. You have a sun to mars relation that is harmonious, I'd say that stands out. You have a healthy (Sun in scorpio) sense of competition, and masculinity, (mars in Aries). Whether or not you abide by certain conventional norms and expressions of this (scorpio) like playing team sports or whatnot, you probably feel pretty comfortable with yourself. Scorpio (the scorpion that lives at the lowest depths) and Aries (The charging Ram) can be pretty badass combo, compliments to you, but like I said always self interpret. I can't tell, and I don't have the moment right now to look to close, (maybe Pachoo can see) but it is either "sun sextile mars", or "sun trine mars" natal aspect. You can then start sorting through all your aspects this way and this can say a whole lot, without knowing your birth times. Your planets are in the right place though. :-)
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23770329 - 10/25/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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shwing, that sounds like a dapper make-up. 
thanks for the info
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: akira_akuma]
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Hah, yup.
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: Kurt]
#23772025 - 10/26/16 12:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I imagine you've got my astrology pretty well figured pachoo, but just for the sake of comparison, which would be the most helpful link for me to go and fill out?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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#23779669 - 10/28/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Akira! Ask yo momma about your birth time man. But yes it can be really mathematical or... something. Also if you were born around that time really we would have the same sun and ascendant signs!! Hey hooo!!!

Jokesshop - Astro.com!!! The bestest site! And if you click on the others and can find out that information you could also share it.
I've been slacking heavily on this thread for the past few days!! Life n stuff going on. Hopefully this weekend I will post books and apps! It's probably a bunch of the same books you guys have read probably. Haha
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#23779696 - 10/28/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Happy birthday pachoo!
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#23779706 - 10/28/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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happy birthday Pachoo!
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#23779780 - 10/28/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aw thank you guyssssss!!!
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Happy Birthday Pachoo.
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#23780275 - 10/28/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Happy birthday Pachoo
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#23789749 - 10/31/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow so cool how it's my personality
 ________________ You were born near the time of a new Moon, which means that your Sun and Moon are in the same sign, and that sign is especially important in your chart. The new Moon is a time of new beginnings. You like to start projects, which may eventually become quite important, perhaps long after you have gone on to something else. You must learn to think of the consequences of what you are about to do, to see how your actions fit into the larger scheme of events. Also you should be more aware of the impression you make on others. You don't necessarily impress people badly, but you should know what effect you do have. Relationships are very important for your development, more because of what you will learn about yourself than because of what you will learn about others. One great advantage of this aspect is that your feelings and emotions are not usually in conflict with your conscious personality. ________________ The conjunction of the Sun and Moon shows that your temperament is unilateral, or almost unaffected by conflicts with the will of others. You are reasonably satisfied with yourself and with the goals you hope to realize. You do not adapt to circumstances unless doing so will serve your best interests. Because you are highly motivated to achieve your objectives, success is more than likely. No one is allowed to interfere in your affairs, nor do you concern yourself with the affairs of others. Generally, a person who wants to meet with you will have to make the first gesture. Because you prefer to be independent of close involvement with people, you have to rely on your own ingenuity when the going gets rough. You can become enormously successful in your own estimation, even if others cannot judge your success. You can best succeed when you work alone or at least can determine for yourself how or when you do your work. You are qualified for positions of authority, although you may be resented by those under you because you are so sure of yourself. In spite of your seeming self-assurance, you are not too successful in relating to people except at the social level. Your feeling nature is your sensitive Achilles heel, which you try to protect. You depend heavily on small quiet moments to give you the spiritual nourishment that you require. Irritated by the constant distractions and the hustle and bustle of competitive society, you must periodically rejuvenate your forces privately, perhaps in meditation.
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You were born with the Sun in Leo and the Moon in Cancer. Inwardly you are a proud, commanding, powerful, self-assured, and strong-willed individual. You were born with all the potential to become a good leader and a creator, both in business and in private life. You can be relied upon and you are faithful and generous. Pride is one of your psychological key words, and it may allow you to perform great feats in life. You are cheerful and fond of amusement and games. You have such tremendous vitality that you sometimes feel you could give some to others. The position of the Sun in Leo occasionally makes you feel not appreciated, for the Leonian looks for his own sincere attitude in others. Your affection for others may appear patronizing, and you will unconsciously treat them as if they were your subjects. Externally you come under the rulership of the Moon in Cancer. The key words to your personality are emotionality and psychic instability. You react more to emotion than to reason. With people you like you will be extremely generous, sympathetic, and protective. In love you are very emotional, easily offended, and subject to both negative moods and to hope and enthusiasm. _______________
Ascendant in Sagittarius
Sagittarius gives you a rather strong love of nature and makes you somewhat extroverted, demonstrative and passionate, falling in love frequently and without reservations. You are an intellectual, an intelligent person who has been fortunate enough to be granted also a good development of the emotional functions. Your romantic life will be intense and varied. Your object of love may find you difficult to understand. In one aspect you will appear as passionate and energetic but because of the mutability of the sign you will also have an opposite tendency that will lead you away from involvement in the love affair and the latter impulse will be caused by a more inner trait, which is personal freedom. Generally speaking, the sign of Sagittarius will incline you to exist in environments in which your physical body, emotions and thoughts are allowed total freedom for development. On a higher intellectual level you may find yourself inclined to dwell in the deep complexities of philosophy, metaphysics, religion and law. You are versatile enough to study more than one discipline simultaneously not forgetting to keep your body in physical movement, since you require both intellectual and physical exercise. The general meaning of this position is that any success in life will be achieved through personal effort and merit. There is also a tendency for dignity and respectability caused by your strength of temperament. You give an impression of spontaneity, frankness, and good disposition. Your temperament is innately honest, truthful, kind and courageous.
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turns out on the date, it was midnight, rather, not afternoon, i was born. i can't track down any documents regarding my time of birth, -- i have to apply for my long birth form, damn it.
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#23815971 - 11/09/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Now I know your name too.
Cool man cool. Good gosh I need to update information but I've been so busy. But I have gotten some pics for some books so lemme do that.
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#23816337 - 11/09/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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there is a lot of me to go around, you can spread my name far and wide!
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#23912901 - 12/10/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is fun. I will start with the basics I guess:

Looks cool I'm gonna try and learn a bit more
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#23915268 - 12/11/16 05:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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In addition to being Sun/Moon Taurus in western astrology, I am an Ox in the Chinese Zodiac, which is a bit of a coincidence I think.
Also my Mayan Dreamspell was calculated as "Magnetic White Wizard"
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White Magnetic Wizard Red Eastern Castle of Turning Earth family- Gateway Clan- Truth I unify in order to enchant Attracting receptivity I seal the output of timelessness With the Magnetic tone of purpose I am guided by my own power doubled

If there are any other easy readings to figure out that I missed let me know. I'm also kinda interested in learning about Tarot cards.
Ooo I missed this one, so dead on 

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Loving, devoted, artist, imaginative and romantic. Lack social skills but well-intentioned. Stubborn and uncompromising. You are gentle, well-intentioned and generous. You are also courageous, intelligent and have a strong self-confidence. You were born on the day for taking the guidance of your ancestors. You reflect the purity and brightness of the Light. You are imaginative and have strong inner ideals. You are stubborn in your efforts to realize your ideals.
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#23936483 - 12/17/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My best friend is a double Bull 
Sun Libra Moon Pisces Mercury Libra Venus Leo Mars Scorpio Jupiter Virgo Saturn Libra Uranus Scorpio Neptune Sagittarius Pluto Libra Ascendant Pisces
I don't really know what any of this means except for Sun, Moon and Ascendant. The astro.com personality profile is pretty good, but I always thought the one from the "Secret Language of Birthdays" book was more spot on.
For the Mayan Astrology I got White Galactic Mirror: http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/Pages/white_gal_mirror.html
Reading about that now!!
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yogabunny said: My best friend is a double Bull 
Sun Libra Moon Pisces Mercury Libra Venus Leo Mars Scorpio Jupiter Virgo Saturn Libra Uranus Scorpio Neptune Sagittarius Pluto Libra Ascendant Pisces
I don't really know what any of this means except for Sun, Moon and Ascendant. The astro.com personality profile is pretty good, but I always thought the one from the "Secret Language of Birthdays" book was more spot on.
For the Mayan Astrology I got White Galactic Mirror: http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/Pages/white_gal_mirror.html
Reading about that now!!
yeah your a mirror all right
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: nuentoter]
#23937467 - 12/18/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not sure what that means, but ok.
ps - you can check your "secret language of birthdays" reading here: http://www.thesecretlanguage.com/check/day/
Also another astrology report I read quite regularly is Susan Miller
She does a free long form monthly report https://www.astrologyzone.com/horoscopes/
You're supposed to read for your sun AND rising sign.
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akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: yogabunny] 1
#23937511 - 12/18/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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everyone is a mirror. we all mirror ourselves. monkey see, monkey do.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: akira_akuma]
#23937527 - 12/18/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not me I'm a wizard, Harry.
My monthly one said I will get a surprise check this month, and I just did on Friday I guess it is Christmas though so that is kind of standard, but I expected cash and instead I got a much nicer check.
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pachoo
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: moonrockmushy]
#24542432 - 08/09/17 08:10 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have been thinking about this thread for a bit now and it's about that time of the year for me to obsess about learning more. And thanks to LogicalChaos thread, I took it as a sign to bring it back to life.
Yoga!! - I added your sites to the OP as well for newcomers!
It's so interesting to see the different shapes of charts (as that ALSO has a small detail in your profile) of everyone and everyone's responses still! Woo!

The 12 Ascendants:
Aries

Taurus

Gemini

Cancer

Leo

Virgo

Libra

Scorpio

Sagittarius

Capricorn

Aquarius

Pisces

Edited by pachoo (08/11/17 03:49 PM)
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pachoo
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Re: Share your astrological makeup!!! [Re: pachoo] 1
#25468402 - 09/17/18 09:27 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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