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flyingBanana420
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SALVIA or SPICE ???
#23754276 - 10/20/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wanted to try salvia for a long time but couldnt find any but today my friend told me he got some like 5days ago and smoked it with his friend. I know the dealer he got it from and he isnt very reliable but i want to know if there is a way to distinguish salvia from spice because i dont want to smoke that shit. He told me that when he smoked it his friend looked like a ghost and he saw a donald duck face running at him and it was very hard to walk and he was terrified, but he also told me that he saw god and was confused but when i asked him if he had colorful visuals he told me nahh man its not like that. Those effects arent very close to what i would expect from salvia but he told me he didnt smoke a whole lot. He said that the effects lasted no more than 10min and after it he was completly sober. Also he said that his friend smoked too and didnt feel a thing (i read that if its spice even if you smoke a little bit you will have effects) So do any of you guys have experienced any of the 2 and could help me or can relate to the effects he got? Is there a way to know if what i will buy is salvia or spice by just smoking a tiny bit or making tea or any way? Thank you for help
Edited by flyingBanana420 (10/20/16 08:55 AM)
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Before tolerance, spice acted as a derailant / disassociative on me. It's nasty stuff. I had a horrible addiction to it for 2 years whilst on probabtion. Spice can come in all sorts of colors and textures. It just depends on the flower material they laid the chemicals on. For the most part it's some shade of green, fluffy, and has bits of colors from whatever flowers were used. I don't have any salvia experience though.
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flyingBanana420
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Is there a way to distinguish any of them apart from the look cz spice can look a lot like salvia if it is ground (the dealer gave it to him already ground) He said it was green leafs/stuff ground up very small
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flyingBanana420
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Anyone can help? Cause i dont want to smoke spice or any shit he may call salvia
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If it's an extract of salvia it'll be black.
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It's probably salvia. Though if youre going to be smoking fat hits of salvia extract, you will know it, and probably have no good reason to be scared if it's spice. Those drugs are not remotely similar.
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ChemicalSpark said: If it looks like hamster bedding or potpourri, it's spice.
That shit is poison.
Lots of people enjoyed spice. All kinds of potheads enjoyed those chemicals before they were either banned or demonized
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Re: SALVIA or SPICE ??? [Re: dankbark] 1
#23761133 - 10/22/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salvia has nothing in common with true psychedelics. It doesn't typically produce "colorful visuals", more like a literal nightmare, one in which you may think you are a cartoon character or a tree or anything really. Your friend's description sounds typical of salvia extract.
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Re: SALVIA or SPICE ??? [Re: dankbark]
#23761138 - 10/22/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If the only two choices are spice or salvia that is definitely salvia. The description sounds right on either way honestly.
If it were for some reason spice I wouldn't worry about that either. Spice is a single brand name for synthetic marijauna and due to its popularity all synthetic marijuana is often referred to as 'spice.' Spice is also a term for dmt which is what I assumed this thread was about based on the title.
There's a ton of different synthetic cannibinoids and new ones are likely created fairly often. Some are good, fun, and safe, some less so, some are safe but not fun at all, some are mildy dangerous. Last I checked 98% of the ones out there are safe. I believe the absolute main reason people freak out on them is because they're stronger than they're expecting/used to, not because they're actually dangerous at all, it just scares them and they can't accept that it's just a drug. It's like people who take acid their first time, freak out, and then say the drug is bad and does all kinds of crazy shit. Some synthetic cannabinoids, unlike thc, are full aganosits and have a much higher ceiling than marijauna.
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Spice is usually whole leafs, Salvia is Ground leafs. Salvia doesnt have much of any smell, If it does, It is not aromatic. Spice does almost always carry a scent, If it does is smells like spices varying from a hobby lobby store. spice smoke is usually off colored. (not white) Salvia smoke is raw a little bit hard, and depending on the smoker slightly unforgiving. So long as it is ground material your good (i.e Its mashed up into tiny bits)
Check the smell. Check the texture.
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Re: SALVIA or SPICE ??? [Re: littleton]
#23761708 - 10/22/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Luckily people don't sell spice that is actually salvia.
That wouldn't really make sense, and that's why it doesn't happen.
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dankbark
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: Salvia has nothing in common with true psychedelics. It doesn't typically produce "colorful visuals", more like a literal nightmare, one in which you may think you are a cartoon character or a tree or anything really. Your friend's description sounds typical of salvia extract.
I totally disagree, but that's just what happens when I smoke salvia.
It is awfully colorful and psychedelic. Like, visuals pouring out of my chest psychedelic.
It is an atypical psychedelic, but it is insanely visual for many people. The most visual even.
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Re: SALVIA or SPICE ??? [Re: dankbark]
#23763006 - 10/23/16 01:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you for all the responses so just to be clear i want salvia and not spice(synthetic mj) cause i have plenty of weed and really want to have an intense psychedelic experience. He told me it was powdered very fine so it fits the salvia description Also the effects lasted less than 10min and i dont think it can be possible with spice He told me it was exactly like a nighmare and he was so happy when it ended (he never smoked weed so maybe he got very high from spice and was panicking) But i am pretty sure it is salvia now after your help guys One last question: i doubt it is an extract but maybe. How can i know how much should i smoke can i try it in small amouts then smoke a lot the next day or will i build tolerence to salvia?
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Afaik there is no significant tolerance with salvia. At most an hour later you're back to zero. Just start with a small amount to test and move up from there, you should be good.
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Daffy duck, 
It's different than what you think.. just start off smoking the smallest amount possible to still make a little wisp of smoke. Taste it, wait... adjust in small increments accordingly.
Good luck,. I remember my first time..
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Re: SALVIA or SPICE ??? [Re: Amanita86]
#23763232 - 10/23/16 05:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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In low doses Salvia is quite gentle. It's a mellow trip with pulling sensations on your body and mind, lasting for 15 minutes or so with the first two or five minutes beeing the most intense.
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Re: SALVIA or SPICE ??? [Re: Pandemoon]
#23764976 - 10/23/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spice smells like blueberry, cherry or some sort of artificial candy flavors. It sounds like salvia by the sober in 10mins when. Ground salvia will have no smell or smell like dried leaves
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Re: SALVIA or SPICE ??? [Re: dankbark]
#23764984 - 10/23/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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dankbark said:
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: Salvia has nothing in common with true psychedelics. It doesn't typically produce "colorful visuals", more like a literal nightmare, one in which you may think you are a cartoon character or a tree or anything really. Your friend's description sounds typical of salvia extract.
I totally disagree, but that's just what happens when I smoke salvia.
It is awfully colorful and psychedelic. Like, visuals pouring out of my chest psychedelic.
It is an atypical psychedelic, but it is insanely visual for many people. The most visual even.
I disagree, I find it insanely visual. However the visuals are very different from classic psychedelics such as DMT, Mescaline, LSD, Psilocybin. My post was quite clear in saying it is fact hallucinogenic, but not like a typical psychedelic.
Also most visual? Maybe, but so what. It's not fun or insightful at all, but maybe that's just what happens when I smoke salvia.
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flyingBanana420 said: One last question: i doubt it is an extract but maybe. How can i know how much should i smoke can i try it in small amouts then smoke a lot the next day or will i build tolerence to salvia?
By your description it is an extract. Just smoke a couple big hits and hold them in as long as you can. You can't OD on salvinorin A, or at least on the amounts in extracts. Use a sitter. If you don't trip hard the first time, adjust how much you smoke accordingly.
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flyingBanana420
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So guys i got the salvia today and its dried crushed leaves but there is definitely a smell like mint or something, i would say it smells like half as much as mid grade weed (How strong is the smell). I will post a pic to be sure that what i have is salvia
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Pictures WILL NOT help. Just smoke some and find out, spice isn't going to harm you. Salvia extracts and spice are simply goop/crystals that are dissolved into a carrier material which is generally "crushed leaves" or some type of plant. You're way over thinking this. It's like ordering a steak at a restaurant and instead of eating it you make a forum post and take pictures to confirm because you don't want to accidentally eat pork chop.
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Try a small amount around 0.1~0.2, if it's salvia you'll definitely know it. Things gets extremely weird while not breaking through on salvia. The smoke has a plasticy bad taste to it. At least for me..
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krypto2000 said: Pictures WILL NOT help. Just smoke some and find out, spice isn't going to harm you. Salvia extracts and spice are simply goop/crystals that are dissolved into a carrier material which is generally "crushed leaves" or some type of plant. You're way over thinking this. It's like ordering a steak at a restaurant and instead of eating it you make a forum post and take pictures to confirm because you don't want to accidentally eat pork chop.
Spice can definitely hurt you depending on the dose/chemical that's actually on the herb mix.
Salvia is perfectly safe as long as you don't jump out a window or something.
Like others said you'll know if it's salvia if you smoke it.
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impaired420 said:
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krypto2000 said: Pictures WILL NOT help. Just smoke some and find out, spice isn't going to harm you. Salvia extracts and spice are simply goop/crystals that are dissolved into a carrier material which is generally "crushed leaves" or some type of plant. You're way over thinking this. It's like ordering a steak at a restaurant and instead of eating it you make a forum post and take pictures to confirm because you don't want to accidentally eat pork chop.
Spice can definitely hurt you depending on the dose/chemical that's actually on the herb mix.
Salvia is perfectly safe as long as you don't jump out a window or something.
Like others said you'll know if it's salvia if you smoke it.
There's been a handful of instances where people have had issues, but I wouldn't worry about them in so far as sampling it goes. If you're smoking it daily to get high then I would consider the health issues.
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Ok so i smoked half a bowl and wanted to wait 2min before smoking the other half but before i even realised it i was completly panicking and there was no way i could smoke another bowl. It was veryyyyy weird. At first i couldnt move a lot but suddenly my heart strated bumping very very fast and then i felt like i was dying and for a moment i was just in peace and accepted that i was going to die. But after that brieve moment i fouad myself turning aroud everywhere in my room trying to use the energy i had because my heart was beating sooo hard i tried to breath slowly but it never stoped and it was soooo discomforting like i really thought i was going to die. Also it lasted for 1h30min!! I never heard of someone's trip lasting so much And i got so hungry on the come down it was typical munchies. The thing is that in all the reports and videos ive seen of people on salvia they dont move and stare at things but with me i just couldnt stop walking and my heart continued beating faster and faster. But i felt like my soul was freeing itself to the universe by killing my body. I saw myself from other angles in my room. I didnt get any noticable visuals but i was compeltly unable to say a sentence. So what i assume is that the guy mixed some spice and salvia and gave it to me as salvia. Because in the bag there is leaves salvia-like and there is some leaves that look like the leaves of bud with plenty of trichomes looking crystals on it.
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Salvia dosent last an hour and a half. Spice will though. And spice can definitely cause ever your describing from just a puff or two.
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Re: SALVIA or SPICE ??? [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23779369 - 10/28/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If spice is made with chemicals like thc so the effects have to resemble them. I got a lot of effects like weed but a lot of effects that i read in salvia trips. For exemple i saw myself from another place in my room and also when i was walking i was seeing my whole body (even my own head!!) And i thought i was a robot. Can it be a mix of the 2? I assume it is very dangerous mixing the 2 and is there a way i can separate them?
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Yeah I don't know what that is man. Salvia def doesn't last that long and spice can be weird but not that weird, I don't know. Did you get bloodshot eyes like from mmj? I don't see why someone would mix spice and salvia but who knows. I don't know anyone that sells spice or salvia either. I have definitely gotten higher and weirder from spice than mmj, the worst I kind of lost a lot of my sense of what was going on and at one point reapized that I had been rocking back and forth in the bath tub for at least half an hour or something. No out of body or psychedelic like effects though.
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No way for smoked salvia to last that long.
I'd personally flush what you have down the toilet.
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Don't do drugs man. Oh and spice. Duration is definitive in this case.
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Smoked salvia doesn't last over an hour. You'd also have been seeing visions, you smoked spice.
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AstralAndrew said: Don't do drugs man.
wut do you mean!? Sounds like some fire shit bruh. garbage fire that is
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