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OfflineLucisM
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Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women?
    #23753756 - 10/20/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's healthy to explore your sexuality, not just think because you're a man you must stick to women, and vice versa.  Guys say they would never do some gay shit with another guy because they're manly and only mess with girls, but the only reason they say this is because they're programmed to think this way and scared of experimentation and what it might mean if they enjoy the gay encounter.  I mean how can you know if you would like something unless you have tried it?

What if they took a substance and it lowered their guard, then they had a gay session with a friend and were aroused throughout it, then afterwards they can figure out what that meant to them.

But I am curious if having homosexual encounters actually opens up a feminine side in men which allows them to understand women better, that is if they don't have a gay experience and then prefer men afterwards.



What are your thoughts on this?


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23754100 - 10/20/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't have a direct answer for you. But I feel like any sort of defensive masculine nonsense like that probably doesn't translate well to the bedroom in any situation. If you have that many guards and that much to prove are you really going to be paying attention to what your woman wants or your own masculine presentation? But then again not every man who makes such declarations actually thinks that way behind closed doors.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23754143 - 10/20/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Guys say they would never do some gay shit with another guy because they're manly and only mess with girls, but the only reason they say this is because they're programmed to think this way and scared of experimentation and what it might mean if they enjoy the gay encounter.  I mean how can you know if you would like something unless you have tried it?



I disagree with this Fen. I've never once had so much as a gay fantasy as I'm just not attracted to men that way. I can recognise a good looking man, but there's just none of the polarity that turns me on sexually there. The only exception would be a full post op trans gender female, but they'd have to be indistinguishable from a true female for me to be aroused enough to pursue such an encounter, so I'm not really sure that even counts.

I mean, with the argument about having tried it, some things one does not have to try to know one would not enjoy it. It's like saying how could I know I wouldn't enjoy ballet cause I've never tried it.. I don't need to try some things in this life to know they wouldn't work for me.. And I'm a great tryer of things in this life.

As for making you better with women, I'm not so sure it would. The things I've found in this life that have improved my relationships with women were never physical activities (although they often resulted in improvement in that area) - learning a deep empathy, and ability to listen and respond in a measured manner - those are key IMO.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis] * 2
    #23755060 - 10/20/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Having a lot of true bisexual friends, I'm pretty sure they have better sex than people who are on either side of the fence. They're the most sexually liberated and sexually confident people I know.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis] * 2
    #23755111 - 10/20/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

In my experience, practicing one creative discipline has always helped me in my other creative practices as well. For instance, I memorized a poem recently, and then I found that this lyrical familiarity was helping me to come up with new melodies on my instrument. Perhaps there's something similar in sexuality?

However, I like what JSB was saying about the most important skills in relationships, even ephemeral sexual encounters, being character traits like empathy, listening and balanced measures of expression.



One more thing I agree with is that a lot of men are programmed to reject the idea of homosexuality because it threatens their masculinity. Not that that's every heterosexual guy's reason for their sexuality, I'm sure there are people who just don't have a gay bone in their body, but I believe that there are far more men who would actually explore homosexuality than there are currently doing so if it was more socially accepted by themselves and their peers.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23755364 - 10/20/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I believe that there are far more men who would actually explore homosexuality than there are currently doing so if it was more socially accepted by themselves and their peers.



I like this - more an examination of the shades of grey rather than the black and white ends of the spectrum. I absolutely agree; for one reason or another, same sex explorations for men are still severely frowned upon in our society. It brings up misanthropic feelings when I think of how hard it must be for guys to come out as gay - I hate that our culture makes it this way.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 2
    #23755367 - 10/20/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Having a lot of true bisexual friends, I'm pretty sure they have better sex than people who are on either side of the fence. They're the most sexually liberated and sexually confident people I know.




i would expect this to be the case, but perhaps not because they're bi, but rather because they're open enough and secure enough to be bi, and its the openness and security that enriches their sex life


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Ezuma] * 2
    #23755384 - 10/20/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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its the openness and security that enriches their sex life



Openness and security are life enriching, sexually or emotionally.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis] * 1
    #23756034 - 10/20/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ive never felt i got in touch with my more feminine side or anything after getting jerked off by guys, which i enjoyed


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23756389 - 10/20/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Guys say they would never do some gay shit with another guy because they're manly and only mess with girls, but the only reason they say this is because they're programmed to think this way and scared of experimentation and what it might mean if they enjoy the gay encounter.  I mean how can you know if you would like something unless you have tried it?

What if they took a substance and it lowered their guard, then they had a gay session with a friend and were aroused throughout it, then afterwards they can figure out what that meant to them.




I can't speak for anyone else, but not all straight males are avoiding it because of social pressure. Personally, guys just don't make my weiner wiggle. It's really that simple.

If you take a substance and your inhibitions are lowered to the point of a homosexual encounter, then you should probably check it out and see what's up because you likely had those feelings to begin with. I've never personally experienced that, but if I did I'd go with it for a minute and see how it fit me.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Sheekle] * 4
    #23756783 - 10/21/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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ive never felt i got in touch with my more feminine side or anything after getting jerked off by guys, which i enjoyed




Getting jerked off by randos is completely devoid of any emotional content or consequences. You're not going to get in touch with your emotions if you are designing your encounters to be emotion free zones. You're not having gay encounters, youre just letting someone else do the work of getting you off.:shrug:


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23756898 - 10/21/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Fennario said:I mean how can you know if you would like something unless you have tried it?




I have no idea how to answer the thread title, intuitively I would think it would help, but :shrug:

As far as knowing your orientation, that's just a sensory thing, I was going crazy over girls in school before I knew what was going on.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23756925 - 10/21/16 03:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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As far as knowing your orientation, that's just a sensory thing, I was going crazy over girls in school before I knew what was going on.





I am not oriented with any one side or thing, if you're hot your hot regardless of gender, labels on sexuality are stupid.

Love transcends all sexual labels, just go with it, be love, a love supreme, stop seeing man or woman and see the beauty of their being, see love, be love.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23756938 - 10/21/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think those labels are arbitrary, it seems biological to me


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23756948 - 10/21/16 04:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:As for making you better with women, I'm not so sure it would. The things I've found in this life that have improved my relationships with women were never physical activities (although they often resulted in improvement in that area) - learning a deep empathy, and ability to listen and respond in a measured manner - those are key IMO.





Yes I agree that the meat of a relationship is founded in proper communication, with the physical stuff coming somewhere after that, I didn't mean physical anyway, I meant being better with women in all ways.

I knew a guy who was bisexual and after having a gay experience with his friend, his wife said he was like a whole new man to her and could understand everything about her better, he was more feminine after that experience, and this led to a happier marriage between the two.  It was like some spiritual thing happened inside of the guy, his sun married his moon, he was light and dark, he was masculine and feminine combined, he was complete.



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I don't think those labels are arbitrary, it seems biological to me




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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23756954 - 10/21/16 04:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I disagree with this Fen. I've never once had so much as a gay fantasy as I'm just not attracted to men that way.






Neither have I, that's not what I am talking about.  I think if you have gay fantasies about men, then you without a doubt gay, but if you experiment with a guy to see what that's about, then you know yourself better afterwards.  How could experimentation like that not make you understand yourself better?

I think when you experiment with your sexuality, you learn a lot about love, and this can be eye opening.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23756960 - 10/21/16 04:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It was like some spiritual thing happened inside of the guy, his sun married his moon, he was light and dark, he was masculine and feminine combined, he was complete.



I can empathise with this; getting in touch with the feminine aspects of myself has been a challenge for me, but one which has yielded incredible results in practice. It's a challenge we should all face, IMO, as internally I believe our energy sits somewhere on the spectrum between the masculine and feminine poles, however society would rather we be programmed into our place, rather than finding it ourselves.

None the less, I don't believe that same sex sexual encounters, for either gender, are a prerequisite to this kind of self exploration. Perhaps it helped your pal, but perhaps if he'd explored it prior to his encounter, he would have found it anyway. Maybe it wouldn't have been such a sudden change, but a more gradual one, as it has been for me.

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but if you experiment with a guy to see what that's about, then you know yourself better afterwards



It's like saying if you torture yourself, you'll know yourself better afterwards. Perhaps you might, but there's absolutely nothing about a sexual encounter with a man that makes me want to pursue it, so why would I?


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23756966 - 10/21/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think those labels are arbitrary, it seems biological to me




Break free from your humanity my friend, be something greater.




Having sex with a woman I found unattractive, was regrettable, it really messed with my head for a few months :lol:

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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23756973 - 10/21/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's like saying if you torture yourself, you'll know yourself better afterwards.




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Having sex with a woman I found unattractive, was regrettable, it really messed with my head for a few months



I rest my case.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23756979 - 10/21/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's like saying if you torture yourself, you'll know yourself better afterwards. Perhaps you might, but there's absolutely nothing about a sexual encounter with a man that makes me want to pursue it, so why would I?




If you tortured yourself, you without a doubt know more about yourself afterwards.

I have had friends that have experimented with guys and within a minute of making out with a guy knew it wasn't for them, by I applaud them for giving it a try, for having the courage to think outside the box.

I have had friends that have experimented with guys and they felt the same thing when making out with them as they did for a woman, but they didn't prefer guys after that.  I think the guys that felt the same thing they felt when making out with a woman, were feeling love, and allowing it to envelope their being, rather than fight it.  It's like an energy of some sort (love), and can overwhelm a person if they allow it too.

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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis] * 3
    #23758930 - 10/21/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why I posted this is I had a friend that I did some gay shit with, no butt stuff, just some oral.  But for myself I realized that I might go both ways I guess, probably pansexual because that's the most open sexuality I think.

The thing is I don't fantasize about men in anyway, but when it comes to females I get riled up thinking about the smell/taste of their cunt, everything about their odor, movements, the way they smile, everything turns me on.  I saw a girl in the coffee shop the other day, she was very skinny, nice long legs, long hair, all I could think about was bending her over so her ass was in the air doggystyle and burying my face in her vag, I was almost getting light headed (hormones?) from wanting to taste her twat.

So, I don't feel urges like that with guys, but would I screw around with my friend again, probably.  He would definitely fit the twink label, but would probably be something like a power bottom because he was not a sissy.  I am not to informed on all the gay lingo, so forgive me if I come off as ignorant.  He made me feel so good about myself, not sexually speaking, but just in general.

I tried to talk to my mom alone about this one day when sharing lunch with her, she didn't say much, but not long after that I was getting teased a bit from my brothers girlfriend, which this has kind of made me not like her because she has no business teasing me about something she has no idea about, and I knew I had been betrayed by my mother, she's like with a lot of stuff, always looking for drama to dish out, but I can't hate on her because her husband died from a gnarly accident some years back and she hasn't really recovered.  I want my brother to be happy because I love him, but I don't want him to think I don't like his girl, even though I think she's an asshole for being like that.

Anyway, before that gay experience I was disgusted by the thought of screwing around with a guy, and never entertained the thought, but one day I said fuck it and gave it a go because I felt it was something that would be interesting to experience, and it was.  I felt like there was something which changed within me after having some gay experiences with my friend, like I had awoken something within me, and that something could only be described as being feminine in nature.

I could feel this energy seeping from me, and women were almost slayed by it's magnificent power, they were practically laying at my feet, it was wild.  I don't know, my gay friend was also a witch, so maybe he's just casting spells my way and they're working, which is why I feel so much power in my being these days.

I have been hesitance to talk about these matters because if you tell someone you did some gay stuff, they can't break free from labeling someone as gay, and trying to emasculate you.

So I am not gay, but I am not straight either, I am love, and I love you all.:heart:


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23759322 - 10/21/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Fascinating. :sherlock:


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis] * 1
    #23760062 - 10/22/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I think it's healthy to explore your sexuality, not just think because you're a man you must stick to women, and vice versa.  Guys say they would never do some gay shit with another guy because they're manly and only mess with girls, but the only reason they say this is because they're programmed to think this way and scared of experimentation and what it might mean if they enjoy the gay encounter.  I mean how can you know if you would like something unless you have tried it?

What if they took a substance and it lowered their guard, then they had a gay session with a friend and were aroused throughout it, then afterwards they can figure out what that meant to them.

But I am curious if having homosexual encounters actually opens up a feminine side in men which allows them to understand women better, that is if they don't have a gay experience and then prefer men afterwards.



What are your thoughts on this?




No dude, tell yourself whatever you want to make yourself feel better about doin queer shit, but I literally am nauseated at the thought/sight of two gay dudes together.I'm talking about a physicAl sickening of my stomach when I see it


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23760614 - 10/22/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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ive never felt i got in touch with my more feminine side or anything after getting jerked off by guys, which i enjoyed

EDIT: Don't be a clown here please.



jokeshop why the god damn hell did u edit my post i was serious


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: stzacrack] * 2
    #23761070 - 10/22/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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No dude, tell yourself whatever you want to make yourself feel better about doin queer shit, but I literally am nauseated at the thought/sight of two gay dudes together.I'm talking about a physicAl sickening of my stomach when I see it





I never felt bad about doing it to begin with, so don't have to tell myself anything.  Why would I feel bad about letting a positive feeling overcome me?

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you being made physically sickened by the site of two people in love, seems weak to me.  If someone has found love, then I believe you should be happy for them, who cares what they choose, why would that have such a negative impact on your mind?

I am not trying to be rude, I am trying to understand why that would have such a negative impact on you, it's not your life, so why would it have such an impact as to make you physically upset?  You don't think that's a bit strange to be physically sickened by such things?  Sure it might not be your cup of tea, but to be physically sickened by others choices seems like a major psychological problem to me.  I could understand someone feeling sickened if someone was into something which promoted abuse, like having sexual encounters with animals or children, or anything that didn't have a choice and truly understand the possible outcomes of having such encounters, but to feel so poorly over seeing competent people in love, seems strange.

The only thought I had, was I realized why all those hedonistic ancient cultures thought their wine fueled pansexual orgies were fun, to let ones guard down, and experience new things which help you understand things about yourself, is liberating.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: stzacrack] * 2
    #23762301 - 10/22/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like homosexuality is a real problem for you :rolleyes: must be your overwhelming masculinity.

Ever read Nausea by Camus? Now that's some deep shit. Nauseated by objects, humanity, the feeling of self... unfolding into a single awakening of joy...

but no, you just can't handle the thought two human beings who share the same kind of genitals kissing each other. Lol.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23765162 - 10/23/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, having sex with another man does make you better with women. Why? Because you can see what it's like to have sex with a man! You can understand what is great about men and what isn't, and you will probably come to find that men are terrible in bed. At least I did. That allowed me to sympathize with women and totally boosted my confidence because I know how to be infinitely better than the competition.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23808507 - 11/07/16 02:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

OP, how did this encounter happen? Was it your idea? Seems like a delicate thing to even raise. :shrug:


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #23808519 - 11/07/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why does it seem like a delicate thing to raise?  I think looking at such an act as delicate, says a lot about how people need to relax regarding such matters. 

It's not a delicate thing, it's over and done with, and confirmed the fact of my preference for females.  It's not unheard of for people to want to explore themselves, some are just willing to explore the outer reaches of their minds, which others will only go so far before they hit a wall, I didn't care about that wall, because what if there was something to be learned which was past that wall, then I had to break on through and find out for myself.

I wanted to approach the matter like Alfred Kinsey, to see what I could learn from having such an encounter, to see what I was possible of, to see my reaction to such a thing before and after, and from doing so I have a better understanding of myself, it's that simple.


I think people often make sexuality some complicated thing, like they're just afraid of what they might be capable of, or what their fetishes might be, or that they might enjoy something new to them, I wanted to know for myself, and I found out.


Most slaves never push their boundaries, they just continue on being slaves because that's all they know and that's good enough for them as long as they have food in the stomachs and a roof over their heads, but what if they pushed those boundaries and became free?  I think stepping out of our comfort zones to be beneficial.


Don't misinterpret what I am saying though, I don't think you should do anything which would harm another person, harm a child, or harm an animal.  If you're exploring your sexuality, then you should do so with those that are of proper maturity, and know what they're getting themselves into, and understand what the possible outcomes are.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #23810539 - 11/07/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That allowed me to sympathize with women and totally boosted my confidence because I know how to be infinitely better than the competition.



You don't need to have sex with a man to learn, and be boosted by what you describe. All it takes is talking to lots of women about their sexual encounters with men, and yes, you soon realise that most men are shit in bed, and why, and so learn not to make the same mistakes.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23839370 - 11/16/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

For anyone who thinks they might be gay they should try kissing a man first before jumping in. I found it totally fucked up. haha.

There's something called 'frustrated'.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #23839867 - 11/16/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That allowed me to sympathize with women and totally boosted my confidence because I know how to be infinitely better than the competition.



You don't need to have sex with a man to learn, and be boosted by what you describe. All it takes is talking to lots of women about their sexual encounters with men, and yes, you soon realise that most men are shit in bed, and why, and so learn not to make the same mistakes.





Let me refute your disagreement with my analogy. If a man studies chocolate ice cream, learns the properties and asks 100,000 people what it's like to experience chocolate ice cream, does he know what it's like to taste it?


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #23840239 - 11/16/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah but like, not everyone is interested in trying the chocolate ice cream.

Furthermore, sometimes understanding the idea of something is enough to make a decision based on whether or not it's for you. That's part of trusting and knowing yourself: gravitating towards that which is genuinely attractive to you.

Not all men are going to feel any sort of interest in a homosexual experience, and that's okay, but waaaaay more would experiment with it if there wasn't as much of a societal judgment against it.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Chakra Shock] * 1
    #23840358 - 11/16/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah but like, not everyone is interested in trying the chocolate ice cream.

Furthermore, sometimes understanding the idea of something is enough to make a decision based on whether or not it's for you. That's part of trusting and knowing yourself: gravitating towards that which is genuinely attractive to you.

Not all men are going to feel any sort of interest in a homosexual experience, and that's okay, but waaaaay more would experiment with it if there wasn't as much of a societal judgment against it.




Sure, you don't need, as a man, to have sex with another man to know that it's not for you. However, what I'm trying to say is that how can you KNOW what it's like to have sex with a man if you never try? I've had a mixed bag of experiences with men, as limited as they are, but once I tried going down on a guy I better understood the experience women have going down on me. That's the kind of thing I love in life, to step into someone else's shoes and see life for the first time from one of it's infinite perspectives.

Edit: So in response to OP I'd ultimately say no, having sex with another man doesn't make you better at having sex with women. For some people like me, you might glean some wisdom from an experience but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't add much. I would recommend trying it, though :wink:


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis]
    #23840484 - 11/17/16 12:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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But I am curious if having homosexual encounters actually opens up a feminine side in men which allows them to understand women better, that is if they don't have a gay experience and then prefer men afterwards.

What are your thoughts on this?




Surprisingly almost all the gay guys I've had sex with were incredible in bed, really good at oral, much better than the standard heterosexual male.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23841649 - 11/17/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Surprisingly almost all the gay guys I've had sex with were incredible in bed, really good at oral, much better than the standard heterosexual male.




I have known many girls to say that.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Lucis] * 2
    #23842347 - 11/17/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There is nothing more masculine than 2 men fucking


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: shaggyp] * 1
    #23843369 - 11/17/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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There is nothing more masculine than 2 men fucking




It's true. Put a bunch of gay guys in a single house together and man it'd be FILTHY. :lol: Sex all the time, it'd be like animals going at it. Guys are the biggest sluts.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: shaggyp]
    #23843420 - 11/17/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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There is nothing more masculine than 2 men fucking




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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: shaggyp]
    #23843648 - 11/17/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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There is nothing more masculine than 2 men fucking



What about three men fucking? That's like 50% more masculine.


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Re: Does having homosexual encounters make you better with women? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23845992 - 11/18/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You don't need to have sex with a man to learn, and be boosted by what you describe. All it takes is talking to lots of women about their sexual encounters with men, and yes, you soon realise that most men are shit in bed, and why, and so learn not to make the same mistakes.




:whathesaid: this has been the best way of learing in my experience. It's usually from women that youve established a non-sexual relationship with. They get comfortable enough in conversation to share their bad sexual experiences in great detail, and while you end up learning how shallow they can be, it really gives you so much insight into what they do and don't like in bed.


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