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CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case * 2
    #23753319 - 10/19/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.ecowatch.com/cdc-vaccines-autism-2051536402.html

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Thomas Frieden, the director of the Center for Disease Control (CDC), has blocked CDC whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, from testifying on scientific fraud and destruction of evidence by senior CDC officials in critical vaccine safety studies regarding the causative relationship between childhood vaccines and autism.

Attorneys Bryan Smith and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., of Morgan & Morgan, have been seeking to have Dr. Thompson testify in a medical malpractice case to explain how the CDC committed scientific fraud in a series of studies, which found no link between vaccines and autism.

In denying the request, Dr. Frieden said, "Dr. William Thompson's deposition testimony would not substantially promote the objectives of CDC or HHS [Health and Human Services]."

Dr. Thompson, a 19-year veteran at the CDC and former senior vaccine safety scientist at the agency's Immunology Safety Office, is the co-author of four key studies that the CDC widely touts to exonerate the MMR vaccine and vaccines containing the mercury-based preservative thimerosal, from being linked to autism. Thompson is currently employed at the CDC's National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD and TB Prevention.

In August 2014, Dr. Thompson revealed that the data underlying CDC's principle vaccine safety studies demonstrated a causal link between vaccines and autism or autism symptoms, despite CDC's claims to the contrary. According to Thompson, based upon interpretation of the data, "There is biologic plausibility right now to say that thimerosal causes autism-like features." Dr. Thompson invoked federal whistleblower protection in August 2014.

Dr. William Thompson is listed as author or co-author on the principal studies—Thompson, et al. 2007, Price, et al. 2010, Destefano, et al. 2004—most widely cited to "debunk" the link between autism and vaccines. Thompson said that his bosses, including the CDC's Immunization Safety Office Branch Chief Frank Destefano, specifically ordered him and three other CDC scientists to destroy data demonstrating vaccine induced autism in CDC's seminal 2004 study—Destefano, et al. 2004. The data unexpectedly showed a 250 percent increase in autism among young black males who received the vaccine on time—before their third birthday—compared to those who waited until after their third birthday. The data also showed a significant link between the vaccine and isolated autism (autism in normally developing children with no other medical problems), the kind suffered by Yates Hazlehurst, who is mentioned below. According to Thompson, Destefano called his four co-authors into a room and ordered them to dump the damning datasets into a giant garbage can. The published study omitted those data sets. That study, now cited in 91 subsequent papers on PubMed as proof of vaccine safety, is the principle foundation stone of the theology that vaccines don't cause autism.

In a series of taped statements, a deposition to Congressman William Posey of Florida and in statements issued through his personal attorney, Thompson confirmed that the data underlying the seminal 2004 Atlanta study, Destefano, et al. 2004, showed a causal association between MMR and autism for both African-American boys and for children suffering isolated autism. Thompson also asserted that CDC's leading thimerosal studies, rather than demonstrating thimerosal's safety, have consistently showed a causal relationship between thimerosal and tics, a family of grave neurological injuries that are a well-established feature of autism.

The medical malpractice case seeking Dr. Thompson's testimony is on behalf of 16-year-old Yates Hazlehurst. The lawsuit alleges that Yates is autistic as a result of vaccine injuries, which occurred when the vaccines were improperly administered in 2001. Because of the Vaccine Injury Compensation Act of 1986 (VICA), Hazlehurst v. The Jackson Clinic is the only vaccine injury case that has gone to any U.S. court in 30 years.

Under the VICA and the 2009 Supreme Court decision Bruesewitz v. Wyeth, almost all vaccine injured children are barred from filing lawsuits in state or federal courts. Instead, their only legal remedy is to seek compensation under VICA in the so called "vaccine court," the popular term which refers to the Office of Special Masters of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, which administers a no-fault system for litigating vaccine injury claims. There is no judge, no jury and the most basic rules of law do not apply.

However, the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services subsequently admitted that during the Omnibus Autism Proceeding it secretly settled and sealed what potentially would have been one of the six test cases, Poling v. HHS after HHS conceded that the vaccines did indeed cause her autism. By conceding the Poling case and opposing the parents motion for complete transparency, HHS concealed critical evidence of how vaccines can cause autism.

Dr. Thompson wants to reveal the scientific fraud and destruction of evidence that took place in the studies that he co-authored. However, in accordance with the Whistle Blower Protection Act and other federal regulations, Dr. Thompson can not testify under oath without the permission of the director of the CDC, Dr. Thomas Frieden.

Hazlehurst's attorneys, Smith and Kennedy, sought the permission of the CDC to allow Dr. Thompson to testify. The request on behalf of Hazlehurst specifically relates to the issue of causation, i.e. the issue of whether vaccines can cause autism, which the State of Tennessee Circuit Court Judge found to be both relevant and a proper basis for seeking the deposition of Dr. Thompson.

According to Kennedy, who argued before Tennessee Senior Circuit Court Judge William Acree that Dr. Thompson's testimony was necessary, "Yates, and almost 5,000 other vaccine injured autistic children, lost their cases in vaccine court because CDC and the Justice Department submitted fraudulent science wrongly denying the vaccine-autism link."

Kennedy explained that Dr. Thompson's testimony was necessary to explain details of the fraud. "Dr. Thompson will also rebut defense experts' testimony that Yates was not damaged because vaccines do not cause autism," Kennedy said.

Accepting the logic of Kennedy's argument, Judge Acree ordered on Feb. 5 that Dr. Thompson should be deposed. Following Judge's Acree's ruling, Smith filed a formal request to CDC to make Thompson available for deposition and trial testimony.

On Sept. 22, in a letter from CDC Director Thomas Freiden, CDC denied Smith's request. Smith explained that "this denial was a disappointment but not a surprise, since the inescapable implication of Dr. Thompson's testimony is that the agency fraudulently altered the science to undermine autism cases worth potentially $1 trillion in compensation ordered by Congress."

Smith and Kennedy plan to immediately appeal the CDC's denial to federal court.

"Since that original study data is only available from Dr. Thompson," Smith explained, "We are very confident that a federal judge will order CDC to make Thompson available."




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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: musiclover420]
    #23753329 - 10/19/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Isn't it up to the judge to let the guy testify in his court? What the flippity fuck does CDC have to do with censoring courtroom witnesses?


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: musiclover420] * 5
    #23753334 - 10/19/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23753347 - 10/19/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #23753375 - 10/19/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Isn't it up to the judge to let the guy testify in his court? What the flippity fuck does CDC have to do with censoring courtroom witnesses?




It's rigged so unelected Federal bureaucraps can override federal judges by law. :smirk:


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #23753385 - 10/19/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Isn't it up to the judge to let the guy testify in his court? What the flippity fuck does CDC have to do with censoring courtroom witnesses?



Yes. Up to judge. Sounds like it's on appeal. Weird.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23753388 - 10/19/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If I'm not mistaken there's a law exempting vaccine manufacturers from liability. So if they arde found to hurt people and is malpractice of some sort the government would pay.

So yeah.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #23753452 - 10/19/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the reason there is so many autistic kids today is that people don't die in child birth
on top of that parecetol or some painkiller used during childbirth is linked to it
and then after that the woman has the baby suck down "formula" further escalating the problem (at least ten years ago)


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #23753548 - 10/19/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:rolleyes:

The only epidemiologically significant factor I've seen for autism is the age of the father and the education level of the parents, although the latter may be a function of the former.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Konyap] * 7
    #23753611 - 10/19/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the reason there is so many autistic kids today is that people don't die in child birth
on top of that parecetol or some painkiller used during childbirth is linked to it
and then after that the woman has the baby suck down "formula" further escalating the problem (at least ten years ago)



You are seriously the current worst poster. Your posts are pure shit.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 1
    #23753694 - 10/20/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

than die now if you don't like me posting


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 2
    #23753736 - 10/20/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Autism wasn't really known about much until recently. We have much better mental health care and we actively look out for these signs in our children. That wasn't the case until pretty recently.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Achillita]
    #23753835 - 10/20/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

there's a big link between people near the age of 40 and c-sections  with autism
that's all i was really saying...


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Konyap]
    #23754069 - 10/20/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That's down's syndrome


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: azur]
    #23754106 - 10/20/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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That's down's syndrome



Actually there quite a lot of congenital diseases and problems related to the age of the parents. As you age, there are more likely to be genetic errors in egg and sperm.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23754120 - 10/20/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Not surprised one bit.
ultimate subversion, using the system to protect them selves while they abuse the system.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23754203 - 10/20/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If I'm not mistaken there's a law exempting vaccine manufacturers from liability. So if they arde found to hurt people and is malpractice of some sort the government would pay.

So yeah.





This is true. Back in the 80's there were almost no vaccine makers left because they were all being sued. Now like $.75 from every vaccine goes into a fund which pays for vaccine injuries. They have their own court, the VICP, that protects the vaccine producers and pays victims.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #23754319 - 10/20/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Vaccines save many lives.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #23754494 - 10/20/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Not surprised one bit.
ultimate subversion, using the system to protect them selves while they abuse the system.




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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #23754535 - 10/20/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 2
    #23754593 - 10/20/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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While the Italian press has devoted considerable attention to this decision and its public health implications, the U.S. press has been silent."




The US doesn't really have a press anymore. We just have a big propaganda bureau. Nowadays with the overt legalization of domestic propaganda in the NDAA and the super concentration of the corporate media strangling the truth there is really no media or free press to speak of. Fortunatly we can still get some truth from whats popped up online as the alt media because people don't want propaganda, they want honest information.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: koods]
    #23754760 - 10/20/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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:rolleyes:

The only epidemiologically significant factor I've seen for autism is the age of the father and the education level of the parents, although the latter may be a function of the former.




Yes I agree, age of both parents is a significant factor for autism. Apparently if you're in your 40's, you have a 1 out of 40 chance to have a baby that has either Down's Syndrome or autism. When you're in your 20's, that chance is like 1 out of every 10,000 or something.

Anti-vaxxers keep citing that one study using Amish people. Well no shit Amish people don't have autism, they all get married and pop out babies by the time they're 16-21!


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23754869 - 10/20/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 1
    #23755085 - 10/20/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Vaccines cause Autism as well as many other mental problems.

Those of you that don't believe this and choose to vaccinate, you're (probably) doing the world a favor by eliminating your offspring from the gene-pool.






"On September 23, 2014, an Italian court in Milan awarded compensation to a boy for vaccine-induced autism. (See the Italian document here.) A childhood vaccine against six childhood diseases caused the boy’s permanent autism and brain damage.

While the Italian press has devoted considerable attention to this decision and its public health implications, the U.S. press has been silent."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/5430940





you believe that a court actually knows enough about medicine to make any actual
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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 2
    #23755092 - 10/20/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The fact that there is some doctor out there who believes that vaccines cause cancer doesn't surprise me, nor sway my opinion one bit. There are doctors out there that believe all sorts of things that the scientific community rejects.

There are doctors out there that still believe in leech therapy, that sunscreen is what causes skin cancer and not UV, that climate change is not real. This whole "autism-vaccine" connection started with a doctor who ended up getting his medical license stripped and taken away for conducting bogus and fraudulent studies for the purpose of profit.

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Second, koods and I were discussing vaccines causing autism, of which you have yet to establish that any of these chemicals listed above cause. It's one thing entirely to say that vaccines contain chemicals that may be harmful, or need more experimentation, and that is a statement that a lot of people would agree with. It's another thing entirely to say that these are causing autism specifically, a disease that isn't even really known at this point what causes it specifically or how it happens neurologically.

Lastly, one of the people that you listed, Russell Blayblock, has some questionable views, that even you must admit are rather peculiar. The swine flu vaccine is more dangerous than actually contracting the swine flu? lol wut?

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"The federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, better known as "vaccine court," has just awarded millions of dollars to two children with autism for "pain and suffering" and lifelong care of their injuries, which together could cost tens of millions of dollars...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/post2468343_b_2468343.html




Just FYI, seizures ARE a known and listed side effect of vaccines, along with many other medications. It's very rare, but it does happen. And if the seizures are severe enough, it can cause mental retardation. In your article it mentions that these children developed seizures, fevers, and other reactions that do happen in vaccines (and even the drug manufacturers admit these listed side effects). So, that could be very well the reason that they were awarded money... was for their seizures that ended up causing brain damage.

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Meanwhile, parents, grandparents, friends and neighbors of both children testified they were developmentally normal, if not advanced for their age when they developed seizures, spiking fevers and other adverse reactions to their vaccines. According to these eyewitnesses, the children never fully recovered, and instead began losing vocabulary, eye contact and interest in others around them, all classic symptoms of regressive autism.




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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #23755150 - 10/20/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 2
    #23755178 - 10/20/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know what all this crap about autism and vaccines is. I grew up in the 60's and everyone was vaccinated for polio and the others...we all had scabs that left a scar to confirm that you had the vaccine. I knew of zero of my friends or anybody at school that exhibited any of the signs of autism...ADHD hadn't even been invented yet, although, I am a believer in that one.

I remember one of my friends father had polio and he died a really screwed up death in a wheelchair. I do agree that the autism spectrum thing is real...but, I just don't see it coming from the vaccines. Another thing to note is that tylenol was not around when I was young...people took aspirin for pain...I am hearing some bad things about tylenol...maybe a correlation there?

Bottom line is ...something is causing a huge increase in autism spectrum and everything needs to be looked at to figure this out.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23755195 - 10/20/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The fact that there is some doctor out there who believes that vaccines cause cancer doesn't surprise me, nor sway my opinion one bit. There are doctors out there that believe all sorts of things that the scientific community rejects.






jill stein is one of those anti-vax, anti-GMO doctards

just because someone has a degree, even in a science field, it doesnt mean they dont
buy into conspiracy theories and other horse shit, the thing is, if vaccines caused
autism then why isnt the majority of the population autistic? and based on the
numbers of diagnosed cases of autism, even if it were 1 in 1000, it sure seems
better than spending your life in a breathing machine or dying a prolonged, painful
death from a disease that's easily preventable


but hey, let the retards be retards, if a parent refuses to vaccinate then they
should be responsible not just for the harm that comes to their child but also to
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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 2
    #23755198 - 10/20/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Also the "scientific community" is dictated by an occult group that has their own agenda, one which doesn't bode well for the general population. So is the media and every other "official source" of information now days. If you can't think for yourself and do your own research, your doomed.




Do you realize what a ridiculous statement that is? You refuse to believe in something as silly as the scientific community, even though the very thing you need to establish evidence to believe in or debunk something is: SCIENCE.

Jesus Christ, if it weren't for the "scientific occult," we wouldn't have treatment for HIV, we wouldn't have fast improvements in cardiac surgery or stroke therapy, we wouldn't have organ transplants or birth control or X-rays. Funny how you refuse to believe the shit the "scientific community" churns out while at the same time taking for granted all the achievements that they have made, without even realizing that without them, we would basically be stuck in the Dark Ages.

Yeah, instead you should listen to these holistic gurus who are essentially profiting and making millions off their books and products by scaring parents and chums like you. I guarantee you that disgraced doctors such as Andrew Wakefield make far more money pioneering their opinions than the average clinic doctor that dispenses vaccines.

There is also plenty of evidence that parental age is linked to autism, and unlike any of the studies you purported, this one used a very large sample size, with over 5 million subjects to be exact:

"Autism risk associated with parental age and with increasing difference in age between the parents" http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v21/n5/full/mp201570a.html


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    #23755225 - 10/20/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the thing is, if vaccines caused
autism then why isnt the majority of the population autistic?




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I don't know what all this crap about autism and vaccines is. I grew up in the 60's and everyone was vaccinated for polio and the others...we all had scabs that left a scar to confirm that you had the vaccine. I knew of zero of my friends or anybody at school that exhibited any of the signs of autism...ADHD hadn't even been invented yet, although, I am a believer in that one.




It doesn't make sense does it, a lot of our parents were vaccinated, yet children didn't start developing autism until the late 90's to early 2000's. Perhaps it's the simple fact that diagnosing methods have improved tremendously in recent years.

In past decades, doctors simply diagnosed autistic children as "retarded," or if they were mildly autistic, they were written off as "quirky" or "eccentric." Rates of autism may have increased simply because methods of diagnosing patients have improved.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23755237 - 10/20/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
the thing is, if vaccines caused
autism then why isnt the majority of the population autistic?




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I don't know what all this crap about autism and vaccines is. I grew up in the 60's and everyone was vaccinated for polio and the others...we all had scabs that left a scar to confirm that you had the vaccine. I knew of zero of my friends or anybody at school that exhibited any of the signs of autism...ADHD hadn't even been invented yet, although, I am a believer in that one.




It doesn't make sense does it, a lot of our parents were vaccinated, yet children didn't start developing autism until the late 90's to early 2000's. Perhaps it's the simple fact that diagnosing methods have improved tremendously in recent years.





it's not that they didnt develop it, as you just stated, it wasnt even listed as
anything until our generation outside of a few very severe cases, in the past the
cases of Asperger were called 'idiot savants' in others they were just called
idiots or unruly, they were being 'diagnosed' as a number of things that never
would have fallen into the autism spectrum and of course because we're gaining a
greater understanding of mental illnesses it's easier to classify someone as
having 'clinical depression' instead of 'melancholy'

and this comong fem someone that dislikes these soft sciences of psychology/psychiatry


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23755242 - 10/20/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lastly, if vaccines WERE the cause of autism, then wouldn't the only children with autism be children who have been vaccinated? Yet, there are plenty and plenty of cases of autism among children who have never been vaccinated. The mere fact that autism exists even among the unvaccinated, shows us that vaccines clearly cannot be the cause.

http://www.voicesforvaccines.org/how-my-daughter-taught-me-that-vaccines-do-not-cause-autism/


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Crystal G]
    #23755249 - 10/20/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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esus Christ, if it weren't for the "scientific occult," we wouldn't have treatment for HIV




Yeah they clearly are in it just to help people out:

Quote:

Efavirenz (Sustiva) $863-$965 No generic available.
Nevirapine (Viramune) $770-$852 $15-$267
Lamivudine/Zidovudine (Combivir) $922-$994 $344-$749*
Emtricitabine and tenofovir (Truvada) $1,309-$1,411 No generic available.
10 more rows, 2 more columns




:rolleyes:

The average price of HIV meds is 500$ to 3K+... Maybe it is expensive to make or something but clearly profits matter most to many of these people.


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    #23755251 - 10/20/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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ChemicalSpark said:
Also the "scientific community" is dictated by an occult group that has their own agenda




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No they don't have degrees in immunology/epidemiology



It's ironic that you are delegitimizing judges as having no authority on vaccines because they have no degrees yet the same institution that bestows those degrees you also delegitimize.


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    #23755252 - 10/20/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
Quote:

esus Christ, if it weren't for the "scientific occult," we wouldn't have treatment for HIV




Yeah they clearly are in it just to help people out:

Quote:

Efavirenz (Sustiva) $863-$965 No generic available.
Nevirapine (Viramune) $770-$852 $15-$267
Lamivudine/Zidovudine (Combivir) $922-$994 $344-$749*
Emtricitabine and tenofovir (Truvada) $1,309-$1,411 No generic available.
10 more rows, 2 more columns




:rolleyes:

The average price of HIV meds is 500$ to 3K+... Maybe it is expensive to make or something but clearly profits matter most to many of these people.





so dont buy the meds


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23755258 - 10/20/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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it's not that they didnt develop it, as you just stated, it wasnt even listed as
anything until our generation outside of a few very severe cases, in the past the
cases of Asperger were called 'idiot savants' in others they were just called
idiots or unruly, they were being 'diagnosed' as a number of things that never
would have fallen into the autism spectrum and of course because we're gaining a
greater understanding of mental illnesses it's easier to classify someone as
having 'clinical depression' instead of 'melancholy'

and this comong fem someone that dislikes these soft sciences of psychology/psychiatry




And that makes perfect sense, check this graph out, the rates of mental retardation are decreasing at the same rates that autism is going up. This seems to suggest that it is merely a classification difference.




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    #23755262 - 10/20/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
so dont buy the meds




The point is science is often only concerned with profits not actual effective treatments and or helping people.

It is very evident in the amount of medications that are rushed into the market with side effect lists the size of short novels...

I love science but it is too easily and often corrupted yet people like to pretend it is some sort of infallible end all gamechanger.


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    #23755267 - 10/20/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
so dont buy the meds




The point is science is often only concerned with profits not actual effective treatments and or helping people.

It is very evident in the amount of medications that are rushed into the market with side effect lists the size of short novels...

I love science but it is too easily and often corrupted yet people like to pretend it is some sort of infallible end all gamechanger.



You're confusing science with pharmaceutical companies. Two very different things.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: musiclover420]
    #23755270 - 10/20/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
:rolleyes:

The average price of HIV meds is 500$ to 3K+... Maybe it is expensive to make or something but clearly profits matter most to many of these people.




Does the price somehow negate the fucking science behind it? :rolleyes: Does it somehow mean that it's a bullshit treatment that makes it any less effective?

All you have proven is that medicine is a for-profit industry. Which uhhh yeah, no shit sherlock, anybody who's been to the doctor in the states can tell you that.

No generics are available at this point, clearly, because they are brand-name pharmaceuticals on a patent that is set to expire in about 15 years. HIV treatment is still relatively new, and something that has only been invented a few years ago.  Once the patent expires, generics will be widespread and readily available.


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Crystal G]
    #23755277 - 10/20/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
the thing is, if vaccines caused
autism then why isnt the majority of the population autistic?




Quote:

Thayendanegea said:
I don't know what all this crap about autism and vaccines is. I grew up in the 60's and everyone was vaccinated for polio and the others...we all had scabs that left a scar to confirm that you had the vaccine. I knew of zero of my friends or anybody at school that exhibited any of the signs of autism...ADHD hadn't even been invented yet, although, I am a believer in that one.




It doesn't make sense does it, a lot of our parents were vaccinated, yet children didn't start developing autism until the late 90's to early 2000's. Perhaps it's the simple fact that diagnosing methods have improved tremendously in recent years.

In past decades, doctors simply diagnosed autistic children as "retarded," or if they were mildly autistic, they were written off as "quirky" or "eccentric." Rates of autism may have increased simply because methods of diagnosing patients have improved.



I really don't remember any kids with these symptoms...even though the diagnosis was not yet really founded...I really can't remember anybody at all with these symptoms.:shrug:


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    #23755290 - 10/20/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
The average price of HIV meds is 500$ to 3K+... Maybe it is expensive to make or something but clearly profits matter most to many of these people.




Does the price somehow negate the fucking science behind it? :rolleyes: Does it somehow mean that it's a bullshit treatment that makes it any less effective?

All you have proven is that medicine is a for-profit industry. Which uhhh yeah, no shit sherlock, anybody who's been to the doctor in the states can tell you that.

No generics are available at this point, clearly, because they are brand-name pharmaceuticals on a patent that is set to expire in about 15 years. HIV treatment is still relatively new, and something that has only been invented a few years ago.  Once the patent expires, generics will be widespread and readily available.




They could invent a cure for death that makes us all immortal and it wouldn't do any good if it costs millions of dollars...

The point is that science is often controlled/ manipulated for higher profits in lieu of genuine progress.

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You're confusing science with pharmaceutical companies. Two very different things.




Except that many scientists are paid for by those very same companies so they often go hand in hand sadly...


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23755297 - 10/20/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
I really don't remember any kids with these symptoms...even though the diagnosis was not yet really founded...I really can't remember anybody at all with these symptoms.:shrug:




As Pris and I mentioned, chances are, if you were autistic in the 60's or 70's, you were labelled "retarded" and probably sent to a special retard school on the short bus.


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    #23755303 - 10/20/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Except that many scientists are paid for by those very same companies so they often go hand in hand sadly...



Not correct. Nearly all the research published in the major scientific journals are publicly funded such as through the NIH or privately through charitable foundations.


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    #23755308 - 10/20/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:

Except that many scientists are paid for by those very same companies so they often go hand in hand sadly...



Not correct. Nearly all the research published in the major scientific journals are publicly funded such as through the NIH or privately through charitable foundations.




Published research is considerably different then applied science that will actually benefit people though...


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    #23755322 - 10/20/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Published research is considerably different then applied science that will actually benefit people though...




Not correct. Applied science is literally not possible without basic science. Applied science doesn't work without basic science. And clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when you are conflating published research with lack of social benefit and as if applied science is not published.


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    #23755325 - 10/20/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The point is that science is often controlled/ manipulated for higher profits in lieu of genuine progress.




You actually have it backwards. As much as I hate to admit it, if it weren't for the fact that medicine was a for-profit industry, we probably wouldn't have had such advanced medical breakthroughs.

Part of the reason the USA has some of the best medical technology and pharmaceuticals available, is largely because it's a for-profit industry. People can stand to make a fuck-ton of money by inventing or improving an already existing technology, so there is lots of incentive for people to generate progress when money is the motivating factor.

Case and point, back in my parent's day, ultrasound was really fuzzy and barely showed a legible 2D image, now you can get HD quality ultrasounds where you can see your child before it's born.

These ultrasounds serve no real medical purpose or benefit, but people know parents will pay an extra $500 or whatever to get these images, so that alone provides the incentive for people to improve an already existing technology.



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    #23755395 - 10/20/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

musiclover420 said:

Published research is considerably different then applied science that will actually benefit people though...




Not correct. Applied science is literally not possible without basic science. Applied science doesn't work without basic science. And clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when you are conflating published research with lack of social benefit and as if applied science is not published.




Clearly you can't apply science without there first being science to apply, I never said one was possible without the other... :lol:

Just becouse applied science has been published and published science ends up applied doesn't negate the difference between them...

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Take Soliris, for example, which treats two life-threatening blood diseases. It costs $440,000 a year.




What good is the research that went into making this medication when the APPLIED SCIENCE AKA medication made from said research cost 440K a year?...


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Re: CDC Blocks Testimony by Vaccine Whistleblower in Medical Malpractice Case [Re: Crystal G]
    #23755402 - 10/20/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

While I agree that for profit has driven medical advancements. It has also driven some dick moves. Go do your research crystal. Dr Mary's monkey. Bayer aspirin selling HIV contaminated hemo drugs to south american countries with full knowledge. Lobbying to keep medicinal plants illegal in order to keep making profits off of drugs that are a true gateway to addiction. You never come off as someone with an agenda crystal unlike plenty of the mods on this board trump or hil-dawg supporters. Go do your research it made me sick, it will with you I'm sure, or trigger some fascination at what greed can do.


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    #23755412 - 10/20/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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While I agree that for profit has driven medical advancements. It has also driven some dick moves. Go do your research crystal. Dr Mary's monkey. Bayer aspirin selling HIV contaminated hemo drugs to south american countries with full knowledge. Lobbying to keep medicinal plants illegal in order to keep making profits off of drugs that are a true gateway to addiction. You never come off as someone with an agenda crystal unlike plenty of the mods on this board trump or hil-dawg supporters. Go do your research it made me sick, it will with you I'm sure, or trigger some fascination at what greed can do.




Exactly, I would even argue if companies weren't driven by profits and instead just cared about helping people we would have so many more advancements already.


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