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Dried achuma chips
#23752622 - 10/19/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have 28 grams of chips. I plan to powder than extract using alcohol. How many grams of dried chips would be equivalent to a foot fresh bridgesii? Is 28 grams enough ? Last weekend I processed 50 grams dried p. Torch. I didn't trip from this. I'm bAsically wondering if this experience with the bridgesii can be better than the p. Torch try
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Re: Dried achuma chips [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23753737 - 10/20/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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There isn't much information about the potency of bridgesii, but this article has a few data points. http://sci-hub.cc/10.1016/j.jep.2010.07.021
The lowest potency in the literature is around 0.18% mescaline. This does not necessarily mean that 0.18% mescaline is the lowest possible potency for your material, but it's all we have really.
0.18% of 28g is about 50mg of mescaline, which is lower than a threshold dose. This means that it's possible that you don't have enough.
However, you should not take that to mean that I am advising you to ingest all 28g at once. We don't have an accurate number for the highest possible potency of your cactus material because, again, there just isn't much information, but we do know that there is a great deal of anecdotal evidence that it's possible for bridgesii to be as potent as the most potent san pedro specimens.
This means that your cactus material could potentially contain about 2.375% mescaline or more https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml
2.375% of 28g is about 665mg of mescaline, which is a very big dose, not something to be taken lightly. https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml
It's not possible to determine the length of the specimen or specimens which were used to produce your dried chips with the information we have available. In fact it's not even possible to determine the undried weight of the specimen or specimens that were used to produce your product before they were processed.
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Re: Dried achuma chips [Re: healing]
#23753940 - 10/20/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for posting. So pretty much it's like Russian roulette. I will either be underwhelmed, blow away , or in between. Thanks for the knowledge though. Contrary to what I have read, the other extraction teks don't look easy to me. I need a video or lots of pics. Preferably a video. I wish I could do one of those Teks because it seems the only way to get accurate doseages
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Re: Dried achuma chips [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23754018 - 10/20/16 05:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you think you could bake a cake from scratch if you had to? Like just find a recipe in a book and follow it?
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Edited by healing (10/20/16 05:36 AM)
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Re: Dried achuma chips [Re: healing]
#23754099 - 10/20/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have baked coconut cake from scratch lol. I also grew my own shrooms successfully using pf tek. Only thing I ever tried and couldn't do was have a baby girl . I have all boys
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Re: Dried achuma chips [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23754130 - 10/20/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you can do the pf tek, then I'm pretty sure you could pull off a mescaline extraction from a tek.
It's a bit more intimidating than baking a cake, but each of the individual steps is just as easy as any of the steps in any cake recipe.
If you take your time and make sure you understand the process you won't have any trouble. If you don't understand something, or If you mess something up, post a thread about your problem here and someone will help you figure it out. Just be aware that you might go to all the trouble and end up with only 50mg of mescaline.
I'm not the kind of person that likes to play Russian roulette with my dosages, so if I were in your situation my only two options would be to do an extraction or to buy a whole lot more cactus material and titrate my dosage.
Titrating my dosage is definitely my first choice, though. That's why I would always buy dried cactus material by the kg, that's about how much you need to make sure that the titration process is theoretically worth the effort.
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Re: Dried achuma chips [Re: healing]
#23754178 - 10/20/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What process are you suggesting? I would like more precise doseages too if I could.
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Re: Dried achuma chips [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23754184 - 10/20/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Something that worries me is when I did my shrooms I got all the help I needed on this site. The mescaline questions don't get much attention at all. Can I pm you if I get a couple questions?
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Re: Dried achuma chips [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23754218 - 10/20/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Titrating your dosage is a process by which you determine your material's potency by a series of bioassays in which you eat a mathematically calculated amount of material.
There are people who can help you here, though there are less of them. This is a good place to post, so is the Chemistry and Pharmacology forum. The Chemistry and Pharmacology forum gets less traffic, but the people there are more knowledgeable.
I'm not very experienced with mescaline extractions, so I can't answer any questions about the quirks or ins and outs of the whole process, but I studied some chemistry, so if you show me the tek you're interested in I can at least teach you about what exactly each step is supposed to accomplish and how.
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