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Mooshie_Muncha
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Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet?
#23752299 - 10/19/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is my first grow attempt and I just wanted some insight into the overall health of these pins. Does it look like fuzzy feet at the bottom? If so, why? I constructed my SGFC to specs (1/4" holes spaced 2" apart), I have 4.2" of perlite at the bottom and I mist whenever they appear moist.
SGFC from the side. Moisture is due to misting 30 minutes ago.

The bottom two I dunked and rolled 4 days ago, the top 3 I dunked yesterday and rolled today. However, I only have 1 shroom growing out of the bottom left one.

Is this fuzzy feet?


Thanks in advance for help.
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morty422
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I do not believe you have a large Fresh Air Exchange problem.
If you do have one- it is quite small.
Your grow looks alright to me! 
I don't really see much fuzzy feet at all, if any...
Keep on keeping on, if there are any other changes besides those fatties getting bigger let us know!
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: morty422]
#23752362 - 10/19/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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morty422 said: I do not believe you have a large Fresh Air Exchange problem.
If you do have one- it is quite small.
Your grow looks alright to me! 
I don't really see much fuzzy feet at all, if any...
Keep on keeping on, if there are any other changes besides those fatties getting bigger let us know!
Thanks man. I'll definitely do so. How about the cake that only has 1 shroom? Poor BE? Could I perhaps expect a larger second flush?
It's important to note that these were pins that started in-vitro. I wanted to see the difference between picked cakes and cakes dunked with pins on them.
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Mooshie_Muncha said: How about the cake that only has 1 shroom? Poor BE? Could I perhaps expect a larger second flush?
it may get bigger than the others.
This is fuzzy


I have had fuzzier too growing in jars like that.
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: blackout]
#23752508 - 10/19/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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blackout said:
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Mooshie_Muncha said: How about the cake that only has 1 shroom? Poor BE? Could I perhaps expect a larger second flush?
it may get bigger than the others.
This is fuzzy


I have had fuzzier too growing in jars like that.
Interesting. I assume that the dark color is due to sporulation?
I probably took the pictures like my ass since I'm running on 2 hours of sleep and coffee for the past 48 hours. But there is that definite spiky growth in the middle of that cluster and at the bottom of that one shroom. It seems to be extending up the stipe. Does it affect the potency? (Noob question, I know.) I assume that it wouldn't, but what would the detriment of fuzzy feet be?
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Also, just out of curiosities sake, why are the caps brown? I expected a tan since this is a GT strain. Does it change color eventually?
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Mooshie_Muncha said:
Interesting. I assume that the dark color is due to sporulation?
Yeah, thought it looked pretty cool due to the good contrast so took a photo.
Never heard anything about potency differences, which is always a controversial topic.
Also not sure about the negative sides of it. I guess it's simply that people think it is a sign of poor FAE and that if they were not showing fuzziness it would mean there was better FAE which some might reckon means more ideal conditions and therefore a better yield or BE should be likely.
This container also had poor FAE and you can see the velvet like fuzziness on some of them
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: blackout]
#23752546 - 10/19/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see. Yeah, it's not that bad as that container, but it's definitely there. I'll check again tomorrow and maybe upload some new images in the daylight. How does one improve FAE on a SGFC that has been constructed to spec though?
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It's also important to note that MS syringes house thousands of different spores with thousands of different sets of genetics.
It could simply be that the cake with one mushroom is a late bloomer.
It might spit out a fruit every 4-5 days until it dies out-or it may spit out one giant fruit as a first flush...
It's hard to understand a multi-spore grow.
Maybe you should hop into agar now?
A good place to start is Pasty's Easy Agar tek and going through and reading the different threads in Bodhisatta's agar portal - both of which are found in my signature.
If you're serious about mushrooms and want to create awesome grows with great yields I strongly suggest you start on the road to agar.
and congratulations on the fruits!
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: morty422]
#23753935 - 10/20/16 03:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks, Morty.
Well, I started this hobby because I am an avid psychonaut and I love exploring my consciousness. Hence, the reason why I'm getting antsy. Hope I can harvest at least 45 fresh grams from this flush for a level 5 trip.
Needless to say, now that I actually have fruits growing, I admit, I am hooked to growing, haha.
I want to move over to agar but the problem is that getting a 23-quart pressure cooker on this side of the Universe is not only difficult, but extremely expensive. Like, with shipping included, ~$800. I'll get there eventually.
At this moment, I have another 6 350ml jars colonizing, and 4 that aren't showing growth yet. Even though it isn't opportune, I was considering using those 6 jars as spawn to Damion5050's Coir Tek. To be frank, PF Tek is cool, and I believe a crucial first step, but it's not producing the yields that I want.
Any ideas on how I can start agar without a PC? Or, at least, bulk spawn without a PC?
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Jesus 800 dollors for crappy pc where do you live the artic circle. Anyway 45 fresh shouldn't equal 5 trips for a explorer like yourself. If you have the time streaming sterility is possible. Even with agar you could stream it two hours to be sure. Grain are 8 hours once the inter temp reaches boiling. For 800 dallors you could build a stream barrel sterilizer like grower or rr has. Put us to shame.
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Mooshie_Muncha said: I see. Yeah, it's not that bad as that container, but it's definitely there. I'll check again tomorrow and maybe upload some new images in the daylight. How does one improve FAE on a SGFC that has been constructed to spec though?
Looks like you could have done another row of holes up towards the lid,
 make sure the lid and bottom has holes to spec as well.
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: NDStepp84]
#23754155 - 10/20/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Would the fuzzy characteristics on the stem also exist on the cap?
I found this shroom in tropical forest growing from rotting tree and Moss.
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: Baykingbaker]
#23754157 - 10/20/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wanna pet it
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: Baykingbaker]
#23754167 - 10/20/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Baykingbaker said: Would the fuzzy characteristics on the stem also exist on the cap?
I found this shroom in tropical forest growing from rotting tree and Moss.

That's paneleous porcupineous and it causes MPS or micro penis syndrome. Don't eat it. Unless of course you want a vagina and don't want to pay for the operation lol
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: NDStepp84]
#23754185 - 10/20/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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NDStepp84 said: I wanna pet it
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: tump]
#23754280 - 10/20/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump said: Jesus 800 dollors for crappy pc where do you live the artic circle. Anyway 45 fresh shouldn't equal 5 trips for a explorer like yourself. If you have the time streaming sterility is possible. Even with agar you could stream it two hours to be sure. Grain are 8 hours once the inter temp reaches boiling. For 800 dallors you could build a stream barrel sterilizer like grower or rr has. Put us to shame.
Hahaha, fuck, I wish man. Nah, I live on the arse end of Africa. I can't even find 1/2 pint jars here. I'll have a look at some DIY sterilizers though. Hahaha, nah man, not 5 trips. One level 5 trip. So, I want to eat 45+ grams fresh in one sitting. If you don't completely lose touch with external reality, it's a wasted trip, in my view.
Interesting. That's a fucking long time to sterilize grain, but I think it's worth it. I'll definitely do some more research. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: Are these pins healthy? Fuzzy feet? [Re: NDStepp84]
#23754284 - 10/20/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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NDStepp84 said:
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Mooshie_Muncha said: I see. Yeah, it's not that bad as that container, but it's definitely there. I'll check again tomorrow and maybe upload some new images in the daylight. How does one improve FAE on a SGFC that has been constructed to spec though?
Looks like you could have done another row of holes up towards the lid,
 make sure the lid and bottom has holes to spec as well.
Damn, I missed that. Then again, I was drilling that many fucking holes, I was tired. I did do both the bottom and the lid though. Will drill that row when these are done fruiting. Thanks for pointing it out.
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As for the rest of this thread, I couldn't help but laugh.
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Mooshie_Muncha
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Another question though, they developed the veil this morning and I assume they'll be ready for picking by late tonight or tomorrow, but the cap color hasn't lightened. Aren't GT's supposed to be tan?
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