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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Blabble40]
#23761357 - 10/22/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blabble40 said: Yeah a lot of these shops just label the weed anything. That's what the employees do... They even use the same label for different kinds of weed. The clever names pot have are just arbitrary.
You go to some bunk shops then. There are very distinct differences between strains and anyone experienced growing or using cannabis knows those differences. If I go into a shop and I see flowers labeled "Girl Scout Cookies" (random example) I will know damn well if they are lying and I will call them out on it.
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Konyap]
#23761363 - 10/22/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: my brain fills in senetences in my head the only thing i can do is run run run and fast once a week to much sensory overload and tummy aches from extacy
Exercise increases endocannabinoid levels, that's why running gives you a similar high to smoking herb.
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Ran-D]
#23766053 - 10/24/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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My "Moby Dick" shatter is 6% cbd so i've been happy with that (and 66% thc)
And i do believe theres alot of confusion regarding strains. As long as testing for pesticides or not using them, still safe tho
And yes GSC and SD, you can tell when specific strains like that are not what they should be. I dont know if the shops even truly know the history of their plants, maybe thats the problem. People in legal and illegal states do still sell random name strains and in some cases do use pesticide (even trusted dispensaries)
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Fractal420]
#23766417 - 10/24/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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place i generally pick up casual amounts for non projects grows everything on site.
if i am getting a larger amount it is usually 1 hand away from the grower.
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The thing is even the same clone can preform differently from grow to grow and grower to grower. Genetics are half and environment is the other half. Environment changes from grow to grow, unless you are extremely dialed in and that is expensive.
A long time ago a friend brought back seeds from the dam. He open pollinated them and passed out bud with at least F2 seeds. I gave away a female, grew some out and traded a nug for what someone unknown to me grew of the seeds. What I traded for was heady as hell. Smelled so rank and had jumping trichs. Nothing like what any of us produced. Was told it was organic. Not sure if it was the organics or the pheno, perhaps both but it was beyond dank.
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#23767487 - 10/24/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: The thing is even the same clone can preform differently from grow to grow and grower to grower. Genetics are half and environment is the other half. Environment changes from grow to grow, unless you are extremely dialed in and that is expensive.
Clones don't vary much, they are either grown good or bad. The growing methods can vary greatly but even then the same genetics will still yield similiar results.
The quality might vary but the buds genetics are the same. Potency might differ as well as taste but it is still the same strain...
People grow clones outdoors and get similiar results even in completely different areas As long as its suitable they will grow.
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A long time ago a friend brought back seeds from the dam. He open pollinated them and passed out bud with at least F2 seeds. I gave away a female, grew some out and traded a nug for what someone unknown to me grew of the seeds. What I traded for was heady as hell. Smelled so rank and had jumping trichs. Nothing like what any of us produced. Was told it was organic. Not sure if it was the organics or the pheno, perhaps both but it was beyond dank.
That is completely different though, of course open pollinated seeds can have drastically different phenos, and different genetics grown by different methods will yield a much different result...
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: musiclover420]
#23767518 - 10/24/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No.
That is why you look and research online there are huge differences in THC content of the same exact clones at dispensaries. There are far too,many different ways to feed plants that affect potency. Cloudy days and rainfall very from outdoor location to outdoor location. Uv levels very much affect potency.
Just because someone tested a clone at 31% THC doesn't mean that clone will always perform as such. It's a fact.
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#23767542 - 10/24/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: No.
That is why you look and research online there are huge differences in THC content of the same exact clones at dispensaries. There are far too,many different ways to feed plants that affect potency. Cloudy days and rainfall very from outdoor location to outdoor location. Uv levels very much affect potency.
Just because someone tested a clone at 31% THC doesn't mean that clone will always perform as such. It's a fact.
Did I say that? Just becouse one clone was grown to have 20% THC and one was grown to have 15% doesn't mean they are different strains...
Plants potency varies, even wild plants have varying amounts of chemicals usually. Dispensary weed is tested individually, they don't just look strains up and say "well this is that strain so it must have this % THC, CBD, ETC"... Even veggies/ food will have varying amounts of nutrition, that doesn't mean much except that plants vary 
The clone isn't what is varying it is the growing conditions that change the clones outcome. Even then it usually isn't a huge difference. 
There is a huge leap between "cannabis varies plant to plant" and "we have no idea what kind of cannabis we're buying"...
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: musiclover420]
#23767549 - 10/24/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Glad we agree!
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#23768525 - 10/24/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: psychobla]
#23769426 - 10/25/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is wide variety of plants with 1 to 1 thc/cbd ratio....just do the search.
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Blabble40]
#23769486 - 10/25/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blabble40 said: Yeah a lot of these shops just label the weed anything. That's what the employees do... They even use the same label for different kinds of weed. The clever names pot have are just arbitrary.
Yeah, that seems to be pretty prevalent. And I think the point is that even a lot of well intended labeling to totally inaccurate. People get alkaloid content listed from a test, but its seeming to be unrelated to genetic heritage in these highly selected high thc strains. The "sativa" Jamaican Lambsbread actually being an almost pure indica plant, as the article mentions as an example.
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#23771018 - 10/25/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It will take a lot of DNA testing to know what is really in varieties of cannabis. There are a lot of mystery parents that have played into modern strains. Who knows for sure as cannabis involves some of the biggest liars playing their 'who's got the biggest pair' games.
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Morel Guy]
#23771483 - 10/25/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So much
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Re: We Have No Idea What Kind Of Cannabis We’re Buying [Re: Morel Guy]
#23771604 - 10/25/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: It will take a lot of DNA testing to know what is really in varieties of cannabis. There are a lot of mystery parents that have played into modern strains. Who knows for sure as cannabis involves some of the biggest liars playing their 'who's got the biggest pair' games.
I've seen interactive charts
it's really not that hidden
it's just they can't list every single strain so a description will have two strains while the chart will have like 5-6 branching paths
and even if there is some odd fellow if you follow mendelins laws it still takes like 3 generations before that dna is hardcoded into the plant
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