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Possible laughing gym? Id Help
    #23752138 - 10/19/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Found these in the grass in multiple clumps surrounding a tree stump. The caps are 4-6 inches on the larger ones. What do you think?


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23752193 - 10/19/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

do you see any blue/green bruising in places of damage on them?


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23752204 - 10/19/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

He has pictures of the stipe which is split. There seems to be no bruising


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23752210 - 10/19/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

he could have just split it for the photo, bruising is slow to appear on gyms in my experience


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23752218 - 10/19/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't know, we don't get them here so all I got is pictures for comparison :sad:

hopefully OP replies soon


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23752220 - 10/19/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It has been about 8 hours the stem has darkened but no bruising like i have seen in the one species am familiar with. Also I smelled the split stem and to me it reminds me of beer.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23752225 - 10/19/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Also I forgot to mention I am on the east coast in the tristate area.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23752245 - 10/19/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The stipe looks barrel shaped and not even and since there is a lack of bruising I would say Gymnopilus ventricosus as it's commonly mistaken for G. junonious although keep in that bruising does not always occur in G. junonious

I found this thread which might be useful

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15244550

There is also speculation that there are two groups of G. junonious, one which is active and one which is not

Other Notes:
Even though many mushroom enthusiasts state that this mushroom is inactive on the west coast of the USA, "I found a patch that were highly hallucinogenic in the west coast (Joust), this confusion is usually becuase of a misidentifacation between G. ventricosus and G. junonius/spectabilis in which the former does not contain the hallucinogenic compounds psilocybin, psilocin, beaocystin, and norbeaocystin.
Studies need to be done to determine that there aren't actually two groups of junonius; ones that are active and ones that are not. Some speculate that there is two separate species, G. junonius and G. spectabilis.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23752401 - 10/19/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I put a peace of stem in the fridge to see if i get any bruising. Has anyone heard anything about cooking a peace to make it bruise. And im also thinking about a cheap eBay USB microscope.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis] * 1
    #23752951 - 10/19/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Also I forgot to mention I am on the east coast in the tristate area.





I bet your Gyms are active then, I think the ones that are active on the east coast, aren't on the west coast, or something like that.


Green/blue staining is not always observed on active Gymopilus collections, so it's best to learn what Gymnopilus mushrooms look like so you don't eat some less than worthy mushroom.:grin:


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: Lucis]
    #23755023 - 10/20/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Is that a confirmation they defiantly are some kind of gym? If so does drying them really decrease potency? Can anyone confirm the beer smell?


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23759245 - 10/21/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23759250 - 10/21/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I need a more definite without a doubt confirmation.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23759587 - 10/21/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23759608 - 10/21/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Taste a piece and see if they are very bitter (reminiscent of ear wax).

Feel free to spit it out after you check.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: canid]
    #23759619 - 10/21/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They look what I know to be gyms only difference is they curl up a bit more on the ends of the cap, could just be the genetics of the local area type thing? They do taste bitter. --- --- --- (not an expert) --- --- ---


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: GewdGawlly]
    #23759635 - 10/21/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I touched my tung with it a second it was a little earwax like but idk im a little paranoid to chew it.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23759640 - 10/21/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You needn't be but i understand entirely. After about 20 years I still wash my hands after I handle mushrooms likely to contain amatoxins even though there's no danger.

Here we're just trying to distinguish between similar active or inactive Gymnopilus species.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: canid]
    #23759656 - 10/21/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I chewed a tiny wet peace it may have been slightly bitter but not as bad as ear wax. It did remind me of the taste or smell of roses.


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Re: Possible laughing gym? [Re: fliksis]
    #23760467 - 10/22/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I chewed a tiny wet peace it may have been slightly bitter but not as bad as ear wax. It did remind me of the taste or smell of roses.



Consider a cup of mushroom hot and sour soup - has always range from palatable to quite good -  the hot and acid balance well with Gym


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