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GodlessPleb
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The Way of Illumination, Atheism and Theism's Bridge 1
#23752123 - 10/19/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The point of this by the way, is to bridge the understanding between theism and atheism. Eastern philosophy has taught me that there is an unconsciousness within the mind that can be harnessed, while many atheists trust the modern Western view of psychology. My life philosophy is to earnestly become what you imagine yourself to be and to gain the best perception of reality possible by empathizing and excercising logic on all points of view. Easier said than done. I however was raised Mormon and Republican and have come this far so I know anyone can if they really try to learn.
I am an Atheist who believes that organized religion and delusion could very well destroy mankind. I am a Daoist/Taoist and I see the value in many Universal Unitarian philosophies and the community they create. I believe in the wisdom of Buddhism, Hinduism, and the East in so many ways it's hard to explain. The Isha Foundation and Sadhguru have influenced my perceptions of reality, all the knowledge I gathered I could confirm to be true with the light of the internet, and the experience I've gained myself and from studying the lives of others I empathized with. I love to be inspired by as much history and relevant emotion as I can. So really I find a lot of joy in Celtic, Norse, Greek, Egyptian, and Tolkien mythologies. My passion in music at 14 sparked a new perception and passion for truth that started me on the path to awakening. Even once you are awakened however, the journey has only begun, many seem to see it as the end of the road.
Like Grey-Beard wisdom, it can seem hard to apply to the cold machine of capitalism and war. In America today, it is starting to become a popular opinion that the overlord controlled media has presented the public with two corporate evils and an illusory choice between them. I have to speak my truth that I have painstakingly concluded, Hillary Clinton is the most logical vote if you believe like me that your vote still matters a little despite all the money that has been poured into this election. I know what is sounds like, but if you want a chance for the democratic change Bernie fought for, this is it. Hillary is honestly like Paarthurnax if you really think about it: "What is better, to be born good or to overcome your evil nature with great effort?" This election isn't the better out of two evils, it is the better out of 4. (See John Oliver Video) Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are not worth a vote when you really look into how they plan to accomplish their goals. The Koch Brothers, one of worst overlord corrupters, are in fact not giving money to Clinton and will not vote for her, it is a "blood libel" by their own mouth. The revolution will happen in America, but it most likely will not be this year, I think most Americans are not desperate enough now to throw themselves upon the gears of the machine.
I have many more theories that guide my flame, but not all can be proven by science. I personally believe that Russia hacked the DNC to divide the American people like never before because of our overlord corruption and the contemptuous hatred against the system caused by America's religious drug war. Wikileaks is led by a racist terrorist, Julian Assange, who is an ally to Putin. Who is the real enemy in the world now? In America it can be especially hard to see.
I could also go on forever about the wisdom of emotions and sociology I've learned from Myers Briggs types and Carl Jung's theories, I am an INFP if any of you could tell. XD
I am in an endless quest for perceptual truth and self mastery. This to me, is the Way of Illumination. I'm not sure where this open kind of discussion belongs on the Shroomery, feel free to chime in. I want to be among those who respect open-minded debates about the truths of reality. We are just beginning to understand how the brain functions, let alone what it may be capable of.
My definition of god is the Ubermensch. I have absorbed many perceptions from this infinite light, thus spoke Zarathustra. Sorry that I come off as preachy, I think my passion for truth can appear so. "Behold, I am a prophet of the lighting and a heavy drop from the cloud." Absorption represents a pure mental state that can be perceptually influenced, logically, through the infinite light, which represents the countless life experiences of people, animals, places, and all the chemical and inspiring interactions in between that can be shared by the light of the Internet. If we talk about the traditional deity god, my view is that of George Carlin and Bill Hicks.
What is your god?
-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
Edited by GodlessPleb (10/24/16 11:47 AM)
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GodlessPleb
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Re: The Way of Illumination, An Endless Evolution of Truth [Re: GodlessPleb]
#23752127 - 10/19/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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LET US ALL UNITE! I just want to connect with these ideas to more people.
-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
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Re: The Way of Illumination, An Endless Evolution of Truth [Re: GodlessPleb]
#23752223 - 10/19/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those philosophies u speak of are also religion..
Btw what's this got to do with politics?.. Are u some kind of shill?..
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GodlessPleb
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Re: The Way of Illumination, An Endless Evolution of Truth [Re: zZZz]
#23752237 - 10/19/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Religion was man's first attempt at philosophy and science. The divide between philosophy and politics is big part of why we are in hell now. I take it you are a third party anarchist communist then? I used to be one, then I realized it was a delusional zealous religion. Don't get me wrong, I think communism world work on a small scale with selfless souls contributing.
-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
Edited by GodlessPleb (10/19/16 02:54 PM)
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Re: The Way of Illumination, An Endless Evolution of Truth [Re: GodlessPleb]
#23752248 - 10/19/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am neither this nor that, I just am.
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GodlessPleb
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Re: The Way of Illumination, An Endless Evolution of Truth [Re: zZZz]
#23752267 - 10/19/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: I am neither this nor that, I just am. 
I respect that, but I also have a deep desire to define the undefinable.
-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
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Re: The Way of Illumination, An Endless Evolution of Truth [Re: GodlessPleb]
#23752319 - 10/19/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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As all young grasshoppers do.
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GodlessPleb
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Re: The Way of Illumination, An Endless Evolution of Truth [Re: zZZz]
#23752492 - 10/19/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: As all young grasshoppers do. 
You think so? You write off my ideas simply cause I'm young or naive to you? Age is a matter of mind, if you don't mind it doesn't matter. I seek to explain the unknown because I believe it is what I have been born to do, when I'm old I will still be seeking because the journey never ends.
-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
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Re: The Way of Illumination, An Endless Evolution of Truth [Re: GodlessPleb]
#23758764 - 10/21/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I should have put this video in to begin with, I hope someone sees it.
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-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
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Re: The Way of Illumination, Atheism and Theism's Bridge [Re: GodlessPleb]
#23764772 - 10/23/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The older I get the more I cherish religion and the more I emphasize religious practice.
It is a fact that regular church goers live on average 7 years longer than those who do not attend church, even after controlling for other factors.
This is just one example of how religion can provide an important beneficial function for individuals, regardless of if the details of belief are literally true .
When I watch UFC I am struck by what a huge percentage of successful UFC fighters are extremely, devoutly religious.
It seems clear that belief in God provides a competitive advantage for people who face enormously stressful and dangerous situations like soldiers and cage fighters.
Religion can grant people more peace and serenity in the face of otherwise unbearable stresses and grief.
It can help people face their own death or the loss of a loved one with more tranquility.
These are enormously important benefits that I would not want to deprive myself of.
It has been said that religion is the opium of the masses.
Well, opium is a powerful painkiller, stress reliever and source of euphoria .
Opium kills pain and bestows bliss and tranquility.
When injured badly, opium is a Godsend.
If religion is opium, give me a double dose , because life hurts.
What is my God ? My God is the creator, sustainer and transformer for all things , from which we come, in which we abide and to which we return.
My God is love. My God is being, consciousness and bliss.
My God is the universal dreamer and reality is its dream.
We are all facets of God, and thus we are all one.
God is all that is. We are God, because atman is Brahman. The individual soul is of one nature with the universal soul.
As above, so below.
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Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/23/16 05:21 PM)
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Re: The Way of Illumination, Atheism and Theism's Bridge [Re: Moonshoe]
#23766624 - 10/24/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow. Thank you for sharing that wisdom. Your response is the best I've had yet when trying to share these kind of ideas across different websites. I ultimately define god as the exaggerated version of ourselves, like Sadhguru, but it is also undefinable because of how it is made from subjective experience. I relate a lot to your view of god.
My girlfriend and I are dreaming right now of escaping America to be in a smaller country, Iceland is at the top of our list the see first! She is interested in learning and teaching the language and me, being a musician, am heavily inspired by the beauty of nature. Sigur Ros is one of the greatest bands I've ever had the privilege to see live. I would be interested to hear what you perceive of the people there.
-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
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Re: The Way of Illumination, Atheism and Theism's Bridge [Re: GodlessPleb]
#23766716 - 10/24/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should research the belief people in iceland have in fairies. They literally believe that faeries are real, more than 50% of people in Iceland do.
They respect and protect fairie habitat as though they were endangered creatures.
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Re: The Way of Illumination, Atheism and Theism's Bridge [Re: Moonshoe]
#23766739 - 10/24/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: You should research the belief people in iceland have in fairies. They literally believe that faeries are real, more than 50% of people in Iceland do.
They respect and protect fairie habitat as though they were endangered creatures.
My background is tied into cultures which believe in faeries (Scottish, Irish, Manx, English).
I love reading about faeries, and Arthur Rackham has the best faerie art I think.
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Re: The Way of Illumination, Atheism and Theism's Bridge [Re: Moonshoe]
#23766944 - 10/24/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have heard of this! Along with elves and trolls I've heard! It is honestly an exciting and fun thing to hear that people believe in rather than Christianity. I am so tired of meddlesome arrogant Christians who are too "holier than thou" to leave you alone. I obviously don't feel this way about all Christians, but growing up in America has given me a unique revulsion to them.
Edited by GodlessPleb (10/24/16 02:06 PM)
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Re: The Way of Illumination, Atheism and Theism's Bridge [Re: GodlessPleb]
#23766957 - 10/24/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most people who think of themselves of Christians and who people have a bad impression of follow a non biblical, non scriptural and fundamentally anti-Christian doctrine and have the totally erroneous belief that thEIR hateful or oppressive ways are somehow based on Christ's teaching when they are really the opposite.
"Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. So then, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Edited by Moonshoe (10/24/16 02:15 PM)
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