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thebug76
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A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass.
#23751627 - 10/19/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I did an a/b extraction of dmt on phalaris grass, how safe would the end,product be? I know it also has gramine, but I'm not sure of the content. Has anyone ever tried? Anyone know?
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: thebug76]
#23751643 - 10/19/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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you can still buy mhrb, unless you just want to try the grass. I have only used mhrb. Curious though.
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thebug76
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#23751649 - 10/19/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said: you can still buy mhrb, unless you just want to try the grass. I have only used mhrb. Curious though.
There's a shit ton of the phalaris growing around my house and I have everything I need for an a/b extraction. So, the cost would be nothing at all.
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: thebug76]
#23751809 - 10/19/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice, I have read about it somewhere, keep looking and good luck, post results!
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: thebug76]
#23751811 - 10/19/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gramine is insoluble in naphtha so your good
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: sbc1]
#23752134 - 10/19/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The yields are awful, the cost is your time. When you can order 500g of acrb or something and get 5-10g of dmt and nmt it doesn't really make sense to extract 300g of some fluffy ass grass to get a pathetic 100mg. You'll probably spend more from solvent loss alone than the money you save.
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thebug76
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: krypto2000]
#23752356 - 10/19/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: The yields are awful, the cost is your time. When you can order 500g of acrb or something and get 5-10g of dmt and nmt it doesn't really make sense to extract 300g of some fluffy ass grass to get a pathetic 100mg. You'll probably spend more from solvent loss alone than the money you save.
Ok, this is what I was looking for, someone who knows.
How about bundleweed? There's a bunch of it around here too. I'll have to get it quick tho, it's starting to die back for the season.
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: thebug76]
#23752831 - 10/19/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I only have experience with Phalaris. I extracted ~30g or so to see if it would be worth it and concluded it was not. I also have read from others that, few others I should say as I can't find too many who have tried it, and their experience seems to be the same, very low yields. I read rumors that it's better at a certain time of day to harvest, certain times of the year (now actually on the northern hemisphere), only to get new growth, etc, but have not tested it further as I lost motivation and they are never backed up by even an explanation most of the time.
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: krypto2000]
#23753351 - 10/19/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The best time for harvest is fresh new spring growth and just before flowering. The DMT is a byproduct of the grass making indole acetic acid. If you do it, you'd be best of using a mower and a kiddy pool bulk pull to do the extraction, coca plantation style, to make it worth the trouble.
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23753433 - 10/19/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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From my knowledge p.aquatica isn't worth the while trying to extract. Harmaline and gramine are said to be the main cause of failures.
Though you'll need a few kg's of phalaris to actually make something, go into dmt-nexus and see how many have failed , and those who didn't, how unpleasant was the trip.
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Re: A/B extraction on Phalaris Grass. [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23754677 - 10/20/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eywa_devotee said: The best time for harvest is fresh new spring growth and just before flowering. The DMT is a byproduct of the grass making indole acetic acid. If you do it, you'd be best of using a mower and a kiddy pool bulk pull to do the extraction, coca plantation style, to make it worth the trouble.
That's another reason I did not experiment with it anymore. On top of low yields ime often reports explaining why or how to increase the alkaloid content are simply contradictory. I read in one place it's better to harvest right as they're dying for fall/winter yet you then say the opposite. I don't know how many times I've heard conflicting things like that. One place says cut new growth tips off only, others say you want the oldest growth. None of these people seem to have tested it themselves or even provide a source or explanation to back anything up. I'm not blaming you, you're doing the same thing I am of course, all we have to go on really is here say, but it's just frustrating trying to sort through the facts.
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