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Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber
#23750988 - 10/19/16 01:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wanted to share and get your opinions on my first ever Martha build. I work allot so I went for a fully automated setup, I can leave it practically untouched for two or three days. The only maintenance I ever need to do is add water to the Reptifogger and turn the light on when I wake up and when I go to bed. My last fruiting chamber, the PMP, was a complete failure and didn't get one pin. I broke up the brown rice cakes and made a verm/BRF sub with straight verm casing. Got my very first pin today! 12 more BRF cakes colonizing.
Here is the supplies/cost list: Reptifogger: currently on sale at Petco for 35$ Zoomed reptile heatpad: On sale at Petco 20$ Zoomed Hygrotherm: Ebay 60$ Zoomed timer: 15min increments Petco 12$ Old LED aquarium light: Free in attic Old CPU fan: Free Old Multi-voltage AC/DC adapter: Free Old metal shelves: Free in attic Trash bags used for liner: Free Duct-tape:free Superglue: 1$ See-through plastic with zipper: Free, made from the bags you get blanket/sheet sets in Perlite: home depot 5$ ___________________________________
Total cost: 133$
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333]
#23751000 - 10/19/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love this idea. But no I dont think this setup is going to work. Even if you had your fans on a timer they would dry out your substrate. I'm assuming the fans are for FEA?
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23751006 - 10/19/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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the fan I can regulate speed on with ac adapter, it is also set on a timer for 15 minutes on every hour. I noticed the myc starting to get fuzzy so I decided to melt some holes through the front plastic layer to ensure co2 on bottom clears out. the combination of perlite and hygrotherm/ultrasonic keep it at a constant 88-90 rh. best of all no misting. I have to say I love this Hygrotherm, it wont let the sub dry out, it even cuts on while the fan is going to try to keep humidity up. Best investment I made was the hygrotherm, have to recommend.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333]
#23751007 - 10/19/16 02:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why are you growing in your closet?
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23751009 - 10/19/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd like a bit of privacy for guests, healthcare worker here, not very acceptable to have hobbies like these. however I made sure the Martha can get air through the open shelf next to the fan, as long as the door is open on the other side(2 door closet airflow isn't restricted
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333]
#23751016 - 10/19/16 02:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lets see a picture of the fruits?
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23751036 - 10/19/16 02:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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this is my first grow I gave up on my earlier brf cakes that were in the PMP. Decided to case those and try again, focused more on making new brf jars. After building this I put my tray in to test the climate, two days later this little guy pops up! http://
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333]
#23751039 - 10/19/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is the only pin on the whole casing, should I be worried or will more come in the next couple days. I see some hyphal knots coming through the casing as well.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333]
#23751045 - 10/19/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I really dont think this is going to work out man
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23751052 - 10/19/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ehh ive seen similar do well. ive pretty much given up on this tray anyway but the Martha seems to be keeping conditions steady, or better than my pmp
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333]
#23751055 - 10/19/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Like which ones where?
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23751143 - 10/19/16 05:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Martha a cheap and easy you over thought this kinda of. The first Martha i bluid cost me around that because i over thought stuff. Second one after my first cost me 30 bucks with same results. Get any cheap crappy green house like form big lots. Get a cheap crappy humifer , never pay more then 5 dallors for. Cuts four big holes in green house and silcone or duck tape tyvek on it around the holes. Now run the humifer 24/7 where you water once a day and mist the sub while you change out water in it.
The tc on here will tell you to hook up the humifer to pvc pipe outside the green house so back up pressure doesn't burn out your motor. Thats up to you. The only reason my cost 30 bucks was the green house was one of the double dexule 8 by9 feet and the shelves could hold 50 trays easy.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: tump]
#23751233 - 10/19/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: amidogen]
#23751288 - 10/19/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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But just think when he moves out and wants to grow like a high roller he won't have any trouble doing that.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: tump]
#23751301 - 10/19/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: amidogen] 1
#23751336 - 10/19/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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he totally confused all the passing piranhas
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: blindingleaf]
#23751378 - 10/19/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No i wasnt being serious. Jesus guys.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: tump]
#23751452 - 10/19/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I'm very inexperienced i was going to buy a grow kit for around the same price. But decided to build something, wish me luck guys. If i get fruits I'll update.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333] 2
#23751464 - 10/19/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You'll get crops just fine. You may want to leave a crack open in the opening though, so the air doesn't get stale. Don't let anyone discourage you. You should be proud of this. There are a lot of welfare collecting drug addicts on this site, so when you say $133 they automatically think about how many less dicks they'd have to sucks to get their crack if they had a measly $133
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: azur]
#23753472 - 10/19/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I'm making an update, that one pin has tripled in size today. I thought the fuzzy mycelial growth was due to having too much fog/bad fae so I turned the humidity down on the Hygro-therm to about 85% and poked holes on the front plastic sheet near the bottom for C02 escape. I also increased the voltage/speed on the fan and set it to 15 on/off then 15/hr back to 15 on/off. I noticed the verm changed color and looked dry, decided I would mist a bit with spray bottle. After four hours and two misting's about five more pins popped up and the first pin grew to abort size.
Jacob thank you for the warning about the sub drying out. After the misting's I realized I need 90+ humidity until a good number of pins pop up and have adjusted the hygrotherm. The fuzzy mycelium is likely fae so new timing should help.
Azur thank you for the encouragement. Honestly I don't think I spent much money on this set-up. 90% of the money was spent on the heating/humidity/regulation equipment. Everything else was made with free items and a bit of tape.
If I choose to upgrade to a larger FC in the attic or basement I have all the regulation equipment(would need a better heater, the heat pad can be used for the ball python I've been eying at Petco). I have stretched one spore syringe to 15 brf cakes with no contams(have some left in syringe) and will be spawning the currently colonizing 12 cakes to manure/verm/coir bulk. I think my first grow will pay for the cost of supplies, considering otherwise I would pay 30$ an eight.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: blindingleaf]
#23753679 - 10/20/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: he totally confused all the passing piranhas
you know. for context and shit.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: dankington]
#23754020 - 10/20/16 05:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can actually take that spore syringe and divide with distilled water by the power of 12. Then turn that into 100 jars easy plus more to share I know grains and cakes arent the same but only pictures i have on subject.if you do end up moving to a bigger fruiting container pm azur directly for advice
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: tump]
#23755101 - 10/20/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmm that sounds amazing ill check it out soon. I'm also going to make a SGFC for the extra cakes after I spawn to bulk. that way I can compare the growth times.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333]
#23755629 - 10/20/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Another update: Pinning has been successful, I now have about ten or twelve pins/ aborts coming through the casing. the first pin has grown about five times the size. My issue is side pinning I have 40+ pins all along the sides of my plastic tub!!!!!!!!! I forgot to cover the sides with tape!!!!!!!!
WHAT DO I DO!!! WILL THESE 40+ SIDEPINS EVENTUALLY GROW THROUGH THE CASING? ARE THEY GOING TO ROT AND INFECT THE TUB?????
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: daveb333]
#23755875 - 10/20/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pick them right before they roit side pins can be a big pain. Thats why some use black liner take a picture Sometimes you can just lift the sub out of tray to pick them
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: tump]
#23758325 - 10/21/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We dont use black liners to avoid side pins.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23758379 - 10/21/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Funny story. I never ever use Liners. Decided to try one, a clear one at that. I never have problems with side pinning without Liners. Well fuck me. The top of the sub had very few crops. The sides had some. But the bottom had a shit load, with a liner all smushed against em. Liners,
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: azur]
#23758393 - 10/21/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your saying liners are the cause of side pinning?
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23758421 - 10/21/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, not at all what I'm saying. I do believe they work wonders for most people. I get away without using them because I really take my time and do a very nice job of making the sub surface smooth, flat, and level. My guess as to why I had a freak occurrence is because I probably treated the liner like it was something of magic and was not as anal as I usually am
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: azur]
#23758525 - 10/21/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: You'll get crops just fine. You may want to leave a crack open in the opening though, so the air doesn't get stale. Don't let anyone discourage you. You should be proud of this. There are a lot of welfare collecting drug addicts on this site, so when you say $133 they automatically think about how many less dicks they'd have to sucks to get their crack if they had a measly $133
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azur said: No, not at all what I'm saying. I do believe they work wonders for most people. I get away without using them because I really take my time and do a very nice job of making the sub surface smooth, flat, and level. My guess as to why I had a freak occurrence is because I probably treated the liner like it was something of magic and was not as anal as I usually am 
i think the liner can sometimes act like a casing, similar to wax paper, by forming a microclimate with high humidity and evaporation on the surface of the substrate, between it and the liner. i bet this is what happened with your bottom pins.
sometimes i get lots of side pins on later flushes. i do my otto buckets without liners, and with the substrate level there really isnt any place for side pins to come from. And you usually just do 1 and done, flush-wise, right? so of course you wouldnt get side pins, since you scrap it by the time it shrinks. im about 96% converted to this 1 and done thing
after a flush or 2, the substrate shrinks SO much, that there is lots of room between its edges and the bucket, tub, or liner, and that is when i get a bunch of side pins.
very much appreciate you sharing your notes and experience azure
@OP: i think your setup is pretty cool! like azure said, you should be proud of it. really cool design, reminds me of my hide-away SAB lol
 
the reason jacobstorm thinks it probably wont work (i am guessing) is that an "automated" setup is really tough for people to build and dial in correctly on their first grow. people often try that route and get discouraged fast with the lack of success. before trying to build an "automated" system, you should invest some time in learning what mushrooms want/need.
i suggest ditching the cake methods, and making some grain spawn, then using that to do a couple of monotubs, and play with some trays in your FC at the same time. As you learn, you will see how tricky it is to keep the surface level moist but not pooling, and that microclimate and FAE are MUCH more important than RH. As you figure that stuff out, you will have a much better idea of how to build and use an FC, and whether or not "automated" is really what you want
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23758570 - 10/21/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sick closet mate. Nice. I love the idea of an automated chamber. I think it could be a huge future for mycology. Their is actually a link in azur's sig that could qualify as an automated chamber. I just dont think this one in particular will cutt it because its shoved in a closet
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23758602 - 10/21/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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There's also this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23582036/fpart/all/vc/1
Though now I wish it was bigger  But I have another, much larger one in the works
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: azur]
#23758606 - 10/21/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now that is sick. I wanna see mush in there.
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Re: Fully Aumtomated Martha/ Fruiting Chamber [Re: JacobStorm]
#23758610 - 10/21/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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