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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23751264 - 10/19/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: He is either not as rich as he says is he doesn't make as much charitable donations as he says he does imo
How rich does he say he is?
How much has he claimed he donated?

As for theories, it's irrelevant, Romney released his and democrats still called him a tax cheat, they accuse every republican of being a tax cheat. The tax thing is red meat for low information democrat voters, it keeps them from having to focus on the democrat nominee, who is usually of much worse "moral" character
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23751630 - 10/19/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: tdubz]
#23751735 - 10/19/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tdubz said: Cause he has lost a lot of money. Not as much as he has gained but probably incredible numbers.
If you lose less than you make, then you didn't lose any money you made money.  I.e $20-$5+$7=$22 See? Money was made, not lost.
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: greencrush420] 1
#23751761 - 10/19/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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greencrush420 said:
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tdubz said: Cause he has lost a lot of money. Not as much as he has gained but probably incredible numbers.
If you lose less than you make, then you didn't lose any money you made money.  I.e $20-$5+$7=$22 See? Money was made, not lost.
43,371,489 - 915,729,293=-872,357,804
See? Money was lost, not made. 872 million was lost, to be exact.
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: koods] 2
#23751933 - 10/19/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said:
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greencrush420 said:
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tdubz said: Cause he has lost a lot of money. Not as much as he has gained but probably incredible numbers.
If you lose less than you make, then you didn't lose any money you made money.  I.e $20-$5+$7=$22 See? Money was made, not lost.
43,371,489 - 915,729,293=-872,357,804
See? Money was lost, not made. 872 million was lost, to be exact.

Sounds like he used the shitty tax laws democrats wrote to his advantage, good for him
It's okay, democrats raised taxes on the middle class to make up for it
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23751965 - 10/19/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, he lost 872 million dollars
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: koods]
#23758345 - 10/21/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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In one year, short term. Investments don't pay off instantly. Sometimes you lose in the short term, sometimes you gain in the short term. What matters is, did you make money in the long term? Hence, my example. How much did he make/lose in the years preceding and following that year? Good job proving that he lost money one year. Seriously, bravo! Now, following me example. Take his profits from other years, then subtract those losses... and, GASP... MONEY gained, not lost. SEE?
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: greencrush420] 1
#23758396 - 10/21/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm no tax expert, but it seems to me that when Trump, and everyone else, writes off loses for "depreciation" they are writing off unrealized losses.
The value of his assets depreciated, but he didn't sell them at that lower value. He wrote off theoretical losses, and used that to avoid paying taxes on real gains. At least that is my uneducated understanding of the situation. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Either way I don't blame Trump for taking advantage of the fucked up tax laws. I blame the politicians who wrote those laws in exchange for kick backs (from Trump).
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
#23758413 - 10/21/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, there you go saying what I am trying to get across in a much more clear and concise manner. That's what I was trying to get at with the whole, "return on investment is not instant" thing, and the babble about long term gains and losses. I provided a very kindergarten, dumbed down math example to explain this earlier, but it sailed right over their heads. Probably because I was doing such a poor idea of articulating the concept in economic terms.
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: koods]
#23758435 - 10/21/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: No, he lost 872 million dollars
Where did u get that super rare document????
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: greencrush420]
#23758582 - 10/21/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said:
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koods said: No, he lost 872 million dollars
Where did u get that super rare document????
I was wondering the same thing. Is that legit?
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greencrush420 said: Well, there you go saying what I am trying to get across in a much more clear and concise manner. That's what I was trying to get at with the whole, "return on investment is not instant" thing, and the babble about long term gains and losses. I provided a very kindergarten, dumbed down math example to explain this earlier, but it sailed right over their heads. Probably because I was doing such a poor idea of articulating the concept in economic terms.
Nah man I got what you were saying. Even Trump admits that its a bullshit loophole made for rich people like him to exploit.
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: ModestMouse] 2
#23758690 - 10/21/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: He doesn't want people to see that he wrote off the purchase of his wife as a business expense
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23758716 - 10/21/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said:
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koods said: No, he lost 872 million dollars
Where did u get that super rare document????
That was leaked to the NYT last month. Rumor has it his ex wife gave it to them.
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23758726 - 10/21/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said:
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koods said:
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greencrush420 said:
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tdubz said: Cause he has lost a lot of money. Not as much as he has gained but probably incredible numbers.
If you lose less than you make, then you didn't lose any money you made money.  I.e $20-$5+$7=$22 See? Money was made, not lost.
43,371,489 - 915,729,293=-872,357,804
See? Money was lost, not made. 872 million was lost, to be exact.

Sounds like he used the shitty tax laws democrats wrote to his advantage, good for him
It's okay, democrats raised taxes on the middle class to make up for it
What kind of billionaire only has $10 million dollars of income? (Just for reference, that is like saying a millionaire only makes $10k a year. And 1995 was a year when everyone was making good money - except for trump)
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: koods]
#23759800 - 10/22/16 01:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Interesting...
What is NYT? New York Times?
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
#23760474 - 10/22/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dr. P. Silocybin said: Either way I don't blame Trump for taking advantage of the fucked up tax laws.
he's not taking advantage of them, he's following the tax laws, the same laws that hillary helped to create to protect her own wealth and to become wealthier
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23760501 - 10/22/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trump had 10 million in income and 916 million in loses. He's a fucking loser.
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23760505 - 10/22/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What are the laws that she helped create that have helped her increase her wealth?
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: koods] 1
#23760506 - 10/22/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats a huge lose. I thought he was a billionaire? So confused....
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Re: Theories for why Trump hasnt release his tax returns? [Re: koods]
#23760509 - 10/22/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Isn't he being audited or under some type of investigation? I'm sure his legal counsel I'd advising against releasing such documents.
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