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Levster
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Preparing for a Monotub tek build!
#23750221 - 10/18/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey crew!
So I had just finished up my pf tek build a couple weeks ago, was alot of fun. I had 12 cakes yield a decent amount, and after 3 flushes I didn't get much so i threw them into some pots outside to see if they will do anything furthermore, still nothing yet.
I want to move onto my next endeavor and I think the bulk monotub tek is next? If there is something else I should do that's better let me know.. Most of these teks I'm looking at are dated a few years one even says outdated, only use if you live in 1992 haha. so here are the teks I'm going to be preparing to use:
Franks WBS Tek OR Doc34's WBS tek
Franks monotub build Franks Substrate prep Franks Spawning guide
There are alot of different people chiming in on which ways to inoculate and do certain things and my head's spinnin' a little bit. If these are good guides to follow to this date let me know, or if there is one huge single guide with every single step contained including how to build the tub, pasteurize the wbs, inoculate, etc, etc.. please guide me in the right direction Thanks friends,
Levster
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wtfcrazymofo
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Re: Preparing for a Monotub tek build! [Re: Levster]
#23750246 - 10/18/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get into agar asap. MS shoots won't work well with grain. Foomans WBS FTW BTW
-------------------- If you want to eat->https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8553541 Bag sealers are to bulky (my hood isn't that big) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28622922
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Re: Preparing for a Monotub tek build! [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23750264 - 10/18/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Levster
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Re: Preparing for a Monotub tek build! [Re: X2QE]
#23750284 - 10/18/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have absolutely no idea what agar really is, I'll read up on it. do you spawn agar into a substrate still, in a monotub, and let it colonize/fruit? and why do you say this is the way to go? is it quicker? cheaper? I'm up for anything
Edited by Levster (10/18/16 08:59 PM)
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Re: Preparing for a Monotub tek build! [Re: Levster]
#23750369 - 10/18/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agar is another step before grain. In a few words it gives you a small 2D growing surface, a consistency similar to jello. You put spores on an agar plate, let the mycelium grow out a bit and move it to a new plate if there are any contams growing. Once you have a plate with only clean mycelium then transfer that to a jar of sterilized grain.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21176491#21176491 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20846749
You will need a still air box. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
It seems like a lot but, it will really bring up your success rate and make things consistent. Really you save sooo much time and materials in the long run.
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Re: Preparing for a Monotub tek build! [Re: Levster]
#23750376 - 10/18/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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MS>Agar>Agar>Agar>grain>tub
-------------------- If you want to eat->https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8553541 Bag sealers are to bulky (my hood isn't that big) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28622922
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Re: Preparing for a Monotub tek build! [Re: Levster]
#23750409 - 10/18/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agar's great. It's also a lot more work and a time and money investment too. If you're ready for the investment and effort, go for it. By no means is it the be all and end all, nor is it necessary by any stretch. Don't get discouraged thinking you have to do things a certain way to get a good bulk grow. Multispore is just fine, especially if you diversify a bit and buy a few different spore syringes. Personally, I think it's a bit hasty to go straight from your first PF grow to agar. I'd just do some simple rye/MS jars next.
These are MS grows:


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Re: Preparing for a Monotub tek build! [Re: freespeech]
#23750466 - 10/18/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ah, I'm beginning to see the benefit to agar. You basically have an endless supply of mycellium from a few drops from the syringe... fascinating! I like that idea and want to do it, but I think I want to do rye or wbs, inoculate it the old fashion way and spawn it to a coir tub first.
I was wondering, what would the success rate be if someone colonized a bunch of brf cakes, then busted them up and added them to a bulk substrate? would that produce bulk? Thanks for all your answers
Insight: On second thought, I read that thread made by spitballjedi why you shuold start with agar, and it actually really motivated me. I would end up using an entire syringe for the WBS jars, where as a few drops for a few petri dishes would inoculate the same amount of jars... hmmm.. I think I like
Edited by Levster (10/18/16 10:03 PM)
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Re: Preparing for a Monotub tek build! [Re: freespeech]
#23750600 - 10/18/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
freespeech said: Agar's great. It's also a lot more work and a time and money investment too. If you're ready for the investment and effort, go for it. By no means is it the be all and end all, nor is it necessary by any stretch. Don't get discouraged thinking you have to do things a certain way to get a good bulk grow. Multispore is just fine, especially if you diversify a bit and buy a few different spore syringes. Personally, I think it's a bit hasty to go straight from your first PF grow to agar. I'd just do some simple rye/MS jars next.
These are MS grows:




It is hard to find a clean enough syringe these days... Getting 6 different syringes is a good idea 2 or 4 of them will probably rock it.
Then you can clone a badass fruit on agar.
-------------------- If you want to eat->https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8553541 Bag sealers are to bulky (my hood isn't that big) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28622922
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