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Gay Marriage
    #2375000 - 02/24/04 09:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Gay Marriage

I dont like the idea. It will not be good for America..


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: GabbaDj]
    #2375297 - 02/24/04 11:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> Gay Marriage
> I dont like the idea. It will not be good for America..

How correct you are. Discimination and the cancellation of personal freedoms are important to the good of America. We are priveledged to have good, honest souls, like Bush and Ashcroft micromanaging our lives so that we don't have to bother with the little things in life, like thinking. I don't even shit anymore without calling the whitehouse first asking for permission. Down with freedom, let the government run our lives! They know what is best for us anyway.


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: GabbaDj]
    #2375303 - 02/24/04 11:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Absolutely.  What kind of place would America be if we had freedom under the law for everyone?  :rolleyes:


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: Seuss]
    #2375700 - 02/25/04 11:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> Gay Marriage
> I dont like the idea. It will not be good for America..

How correct you are. Discimination and the cancellation of personal freedoms are important to the good of America. We are priveledged to have good, honest souls, like Bush and Ashcroft micromanaging our lives so that we don't have to bother with the little things in life, like thinking. I don't even shit anymore without calling the whitehouse first asking for permission. Down with freedom, let the government run our lives! They know what is best for us anyway.




Should pedophilia, as long as both parties concent, be allowed? Beastiality, as long as the animalget hurt or feel upset?


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: GabbaDj]
    #2375717 - 02/25/04 11:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Gabba,
Elaborate, man. I have yet to hear a good argument for banning gay marriage. They always fall back on religion. Is that what you meant? Or do you have some logical argument?


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2375738 - 02/25/04 12:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So using your own logic, pedophilia is ok as long as it's heterosexual pedophelia?


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2376001 - 02/25/04 02:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Should pedophilia, as long as both parties concent, be allowed? Beastiality, as long as the animalget hurt or feel upset?




Why do people like yourself continually parrot the lame-brain arguments of Jerry Falwell and Ralph Reed?

There is a difference between an adult, gay couple deciding to wed and someone wanting to marry an animal or a child; the difference is a matter of consent. A child or an animal simply does not possess the emotional nor intellectual capacity or nuance to fairly consent to such a relationship with adult. An eight-year old simply does understand the consequences of having a sex with an adult, therefore, any attempt by an adult to develop such a relationship is taking advantage of the child's ignorance.

When a gay couple decides to be faithful and spend the rest of their lives together through thick and thin, they do so with full conscience as consenting adults.


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2376346 - 02/25/04 04:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Should pedophilia, as long as both parties concent, be allowed? Beastiality, as long as the animalget hurt or feel upset?

there is absolutely no logic at all in this argument.

children and animals are a different scenario.

adults are allowed to enter into sexual relations with consenting adults because adults, unlike children and animals, have the ability to give informed consent. the genders of those involved has nothing to do with their ability to consent. a man doesn't have any less of an ability to consent to sex with a man than a woman does.

i asked you before if you thought homosexual acts should be illegal and you didn't respond.

should homosexual acts be illegal?


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: GabbaDj]
    #2376423 - 02/25/04 04:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Really. What is the argument against gay marriage? I searched through the website of the Alliance for the American Family trying to find it, and I cant find a THING.

It seems to be just the "Yuck" factor...Whats the argument against it? Marriage in this country is already dragged through the mud left and right by hetero's...If gay people want to give it a pull, whats the dif?


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2376443 - 02/25/04 04:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It seems to be just the "Yuck" factor

you got it.


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: GabbaDj]
    #2376610 - 02/25/04 05:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What about people abusing gay marriage? Immigration scams. Non-gay men getting married just to get in this country. What about old retired non-gay men sitting around in Florida and AZ getting married to each other playing ss lottery, ie. whoever dies first gets the ss. The scam factor is going to be huge.
Personally, I hope gays get to marry. I just hope something is done to avoid any problems.
Note: To be fair one could replace non-gay men above with non-gay women.


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2376798 - 02/25/04 07:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
So using your own logic, pedophilia is ok as long as it's heterosexual pedophelia?



GOOD POINT!


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: mabus]
    #2376824 - 02/25/04 07:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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What about old retired non-gay men sitting around in Florida and AZ getting married to each other playing ss lottery, ie. whoever dies first gets the ss.




Theres nothign stopping old-ass straight people from doing this. Does it happen alot? I dont think so. What proof do you have that gay people are any more likely to engage in criminal activity than straight people?

You cant criminalize a person because of their sexual orientation any more you can the color of their skin....


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2376866 - 02/25/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Theres nothign stopping old-ass straight people from doing this.

Women just don't have as much criminal energy as men do. As soon as guys can marry (and I'm not talking about gays here at all) the scams are going to skyrocket.

What proof do you have that gay people are any more likely to engage in criminal activity than straight people?

I said non-gays. I was'nt even talking about gays. I might have called it gay marriage, but I guess I really meant Man to Man marriage, or Woman to Woman marriage. Sorry if it sounded like I meant gays.

You cant criminalize a person because of their sexual orientation any more you can the color of their skin....

I agree. I will edit my post if you want cause I did'nt want that implied at all. Just tell me what sentence it was.


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: mabus]
    #2376935 - 02/25/04 08:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:shake:

is that even an issue?


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: GabbaDj]
    #2376963 - 02/25/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

government should have nothing to do with marriage. marriage is between 2 people and God.

and married people shouldnt get tax breaks anyways. And people with kids especially shouldnt get tax breaks. If anything, they should pay higher taxes to account for the burden they put on public education and health care.

But republicans will still continue to stand against one and for the other. See if you can figure out why? (hint: social eugenics)


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: Xochitl]
    #2377009 - 02/25/04 09:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its not the main issue, but the social security scams, green card scams, etc. that are going to cost our economy billions as a result of NON-GAY Males getting married will have to be paid by the taxpayers/voters.
I know something about green card scams, I saw that movie Green Card.  :grin:


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: mabus]
    #2377082 - 02/25/04 09:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So gays get screwed(no pun intended) because of non-gays? Seems stupid to me. It's like saying no to manufacturing a new kind of car because cars get stolen.


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #2377144 - 02/25/04 10:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You know guys are going to scam with this one. Government housing scams, the list goes on. Calling it gay marriage is nice. But the reality is much different, non-gays are going to scam big time. I think there should be some kind of means to prevent crooks from scamming. But I can't think of any.


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Re: Gay Marriage [Re: mabus]
    #2377185 - 02/25/04 10:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Lets not forget the drain on the healthcare system

A few gay guys hook up at the AIDS clinic and decide to share benefits. Companies already struggling to provide affordable health care to their employees will be plagued with sick gay men jumping into their "partners" health plan.

Lets face it, the overwhelming majority of the gay community is fucked up. Believe me, Ive lived in some of the gayest communities and have met many many gay men and women...

Ever been to a porn shop in California? Walk into many of them and theirs guys just hanging out waiting to do each other in the video booths. These places arent just in porn stores but in public parks, bars, theaters and clubs.

The gay community is not responsible enough to be given equal rights. Especially since we pay for many of those rights...


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