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Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
#23749866 - 10/18/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is the second day in a row that Trump has released a plan to combat corruption. This time he proposes to impose congressional term limits. This would combat our problem of lifelong politicians who are continually re-elected with the money from the same lobbysists that control them. We need to take lobbyists influence out of our government. Let me be clear when I say that Trumps plan is SCARING THE SHIT out of the establishment politicians and the shady corporations that fund and control them.
For the record: Hillary has absolutely no plan to take the money out of poltiics and in fact is one of the most handsomely funded candidates to ever run for office, with a vast majority of her funds coming from Wall Steet and big banks. In fact, if elected, she will be the first president that will be influenced by a foundation which foreign governments have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars into.
I for one don't want my president to be a puppet whose strings are pulled by the global elite. MAGA.
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- OCTOBER 18, 2016 -
TRUMP PLEDGES TO DRAIN THE SWAMP AND IMPOSE CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS
There is another major announcement I am going to make today as part of our pledge to drain the swamp in Washington. If I am elected President, I will push for a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.
Decades of failure in Washington, and decades of special interest dealing, must come to an end. We have to break the cycle of corruption, and we have to give new voices a chance to go into government service. The time for Congressional term limits has arrived.
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If we let the Clinton Cartel run this government, history will record that 2017 was the year America lost its independence.
We will not let that happen.
It is time to drain the swamp in Washington, D.C.
That is why I am proposing a package of ethics reforms to make our government honest once again.
First: I am going to institute a 5-year ban on all executive branch officials lobbying the government after they leave government service.
Second: I am going to ask Congress to institute its own 5-year ban on lobbying by former members of Congress and their staffs.
Third: I am going to expand the definition of lobbyist so we close all the loopholes that former government officials use by labeling themselves consultants and advisors when we all know they are lobbyists.
Fourth: I am going to issue a lifetime ban against senior executive branch officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.
Fifth: I am going to ask Congress to pass a campaign finance reform that prevents registered foreign lobbyists from raising money in American elections.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: Webster10]
#23749899 - 10/18/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This might be the first smart thing he's said since he announced he was running. Genius really.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: DustyBottoms]
#23749972 - 10/18/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It truly is genius. And you don't hear ANYTHING about money in politics from Hillary or any establishment politician for that matter, EVER.
Trump is carrying out what Bernie started and was too much of a loser to fulfill.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: Webster10]
#23749978 - 10/18/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Trump is carrying out what Bernie started and was too much of a loser to fulfill.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: musiclover420]
#23749985 - 10/18/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bernie wanted the money, to be specific, the type of money funding Hillary, out of politics. Trump does as well. What's so funny?
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: Webster10]
#23750000 - 10/18/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What a stupid fucking idea. We have congressional term limits: two years. Then the people get to choose whether that person should be re-elected. Why force good people who have a lot of support to leave office?
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: Webster10]
#23750013 - 10/18/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Bernie wanted the money, to be specific, the type of money funding Hillary, out of politics. Trump does as well. What's so funny?
Bernie got screwed out of the race You are whats funny, but not really. It's more of a bad joke I can't help but laugh awkwardly at
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: koods]
#23750038 - 10/18/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: What a stupid fucking idea. We have congressional term limits: two years. Then the people get to choose whether that person should be re-elected. Why force good people who have a lot of support to leave office?
Because there are plenty more "good people" who aren't completely and utterly controlled by special interests and lobbyist money. Duh?
The thing is, nearly every American wants to get the money out of politics and wants to end our current system of huge corporations getting their puppets into power by flooding their campaigns with millions of dollars. It's a broken system. Everyone realizes it. Trying to argue against it is severely hurting the little bit of credibility you have left.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: musiclover420]
#23750046 - 10/18/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Bernie wanted the money, to be specific, the type of money funding Hillary, out of politics. Trump does as well. What's so funny?
Bernie got screwed out of the race You are whats funny, but not really. It's more of a bad joke I can't help but laugh awkwardly at 
I know he got screwed out of the race. He got butt fucked by Hillary and her global elite goons. The entire Dem primary was rigged because Hillary had control over the DNC. There was never a competition in the first place, voters didn't matter. Hillary was going to win. Do we want EVERY election to be that way? I certainly don't, I'd rather die than vote for Hillary.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: Webster10]
#23750047 - 10/18/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Term limits are fundamentally undemocratic. They take the choice to retain their congressional representative away from the people, and there's no way you can counter that argument.
It's not surprising that Donald trump would propose something so undemocratic.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: koods]
#23750057 - 10/18/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No term limits are fundamentally undemocratic. They take the opportunity to run for office away from honest Americans who would represent their voters much better than the puppets we currently have running the show. There's no way you can counter that argument.
It really isn't surprising that after Trump proposes something that everyone wants you find a way to argue against it. It's almost like you have a reason for upholding the current, broken, pay for play system we have now. Hmmmm
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: Webster10]
#23750065 - 10/18/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm all for term limits, but not for anything too short either. 50 - 60 years is a bit much for any congressman or senator, but limiting it to 6-10 years is too small a time to gain the experience needed for effective legislation as well. Some people argue for limiting congressional terms to 2 or 3 terms - which is far too small. The legislation would be consistently shitty, and actors being bought out by special interests would write more effective legislation to do bad things. And given these rules, newb legislators would have no assistance from retired congressman and senators to fix legislative wording to make it good.
Rather than term limits, addressing our now archaic practices of legislative writing would be more beneficial. Limiting the scope of riders on bills would be one thing that would aid in 'restoring' the integrity of legislation. Likewise, requiring filibuster time to be filled with actual argument about legislation rather than filler would allow legislation to retain it's intended cause rather than giving into pressure just to get passed.
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Webster10 said: Trump is carrying out what Bernie started and was too much of a loser to fulfill.
When Trump loses the race because of supposedly unfair election practices that made it so Bernie lost, are you going to refer to Trump as a loser as well?
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: Webster10]
#23750066 - 10/18/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now that is orwellian. Anyone can run for office and if they get support they win. Term limits mean even someone with 100% support wouldn't be able to hold office.
Why not let the people decide on a individual basis who doesn't deserve to remain in office, instead of creating an arbitrary and undemocratic limit?
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: Webster10]
#23750076 - 10/18/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: For the record: Hillary has absolutely no plan to take the money out of poltiics and in fact is one of the most handsomely funded candidates to ever run for office, with a vast majority of her funds coming from Wall Steet and big banks. In fact, if elected, she will be the first president that will be influenced by a foundation which foreign governments have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars into.
I wonder what ever happened to these guys?

oh right, they're retarded liberals, they long for war
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: koods]
#23750078 - 10/18/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Now that is orwellian. Anyone can run for office and if they get support they win. Term limits mean even someone with 100% support wouldn't be able to hold office.
I wouldn't describe presidential term limits as Orwellian. They are healthy. For the same reasons, I wouldn't describe legislative term limits as Orwellian either.
I'd prefer to see the length of terms increase through a constitutional amendment so that representatives could spend less time running for office and raising funds than they do.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: koods]
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koods said: Now that is orwellian. Anyone can run for office and if they get support they win. Term limits mean even someone with 100% support wouldn't be able to hold office.
No one besides connected, well-funded insiders can run for office. Our current system is Orwellian. We never hear about any other candidates running for office because the corporate media only reports on candidates that are bought and paid for.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: koods]
#23750085 - 10/18/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Why not let the people decide on a individual basis who doesn't deserve to remain in office, instead of creating an arbitrary and undemocratic limit?
The people never even hear about candidates unless the corporate media knows there just another bought and paid for puppet.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: koods]
#23750087 - 10/18/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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really isn't surprising that after Trump proposes something that everyone wants you find a way to argue against it. It's almost like you have a reason for upholding the current, broken, pay for play system we have now. Hmmmm
I've always been against term limits. It's a great populist talking point, but when you think about it, just takes more power away from the people to choose who they want to represent them.
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: koods]
#23750089 - 10/18/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Term limits are fundamentally undemocratic.
so democrats would support term limits
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t's not surprising that Donald trump would propose something so undemocratic.
so now you believe that trump is intelligent enough to come up with something like this
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Re: Trump to propose congressional term limits - THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN [Re: PatrickKn]
#23750092 - 10/18/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, cause Bernie rolled over, let it happen and never said anything about voter fraud. Trump is fighting it and is making it a known issue. However, if he loses, he will by definition be a loser.
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