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Byrain

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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: DavidReishi]
#23751399 - 10/19/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It means pretty much what you said, through various factors spores spread from one place to another without intentional intervention. My question is that if that is what happened and they successfully grew (You clearly did find them), then why would an intentional patch in which someone chose a specific micro-habitat where they then spread naturally be less likely? It only takes a handful of motivated hippies to try that.
There is also the possibility that someone went around with a spray bottle filled of a spore slurry and sprayed it wherever they could including public locations and they just happened to grow there. I guess it is possible they spread from their natural range unintentionally, but that would of taken far more coincidences to occur than if someone helped out.
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DavidReishi
Mediocrity Extraordinaire


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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Roger Wilco]
#23751400 - 10/19/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Roger Wilco said: So to recap: Spores travelling by human shoes or hair is obvious, but by human hand is bullshit and out of the question....
Uh, no. Nobody said anything about spores traveling by human hand. We're talking about cultivated patches. And "out of the question" was never said. Man...you're not very good.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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Sk8nshram
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Sk8nshram] 2
#23751403 - 10/19/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No can prove how they got there in all honesty. Unless it was made by someone and they come forward, which is doubtful. So I'm not sure why we are arguing about that. All I'm looking for is some respect. Give some and you'll get some.
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Sirtalis


Registered: 10/05/16
Posts: 409
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Sk8nshram]
#23751425 - 10/19/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe you should pop a few of those azurescens in your mouth, meditate, and you'll come to realize why people are arguing with you.
It's sad that you have to personally attack people on here.
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Roger Wilco
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: DavidReishi] 2
#23751433 - 10/19/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Countless cultivated patches of many species are made via spore water each year. You should read up the last few years of "official" PNW and NSW, and ovoid threads.
A lot of people try and hit every bare woodchip they can find with spore slurry, stem butts. This is much more common practice than someone making an outdoor patch with spawn, which requires a lot more effort and time. Those that do cultivated patches with spawn will use their fruits to make spore water, and spread it and the stem butts to make new patches. This is a common well documented practice.
By the way, someone did suggest spore by hand, I did, followed soon after by Byrain.
Perhaps you should go cool down, do some reading, get caught up to speed......
I still won't be very good when you get back.
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Sirtalis


Registered: 10/05/16
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Roger Wilco]
#23751447 - 10/19/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13425527/fpart/1/vc/1
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15787028#15787028
My liquid cultures are ready and I'll be spraying areas that have Leratiomyces ceres present or nearby. I think that everyone who mushroom hunts should be spraying.
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DavidReishi
Mediocrity Extraordinaire


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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Sirtalis]
#23751451 - 10/19/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sirtalis said: Maybe you should pop a few of those azurescens in your mouth, meditate, and you'll come to realize why people are arguing with you.
No need. I recognize jealousy instantly.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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RiverDweller1



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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: DavidReishi] 3
#23751465 - 10/19/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm trying to be happy for your awesome shroomy find but the assholeness is wrecking it.
There is no evidence one way or the other how the patch you found came to be and I'm not weighing in on that but it's well known around these parts (shroomery) that patches of actives have been deliberately placed through slurries and other methods.
I'm not sure why you're taking such investment in your "natural patch stance" - you could be all twinkly eyed and soul-bursting right now
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Byrain

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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: RiverDweller1] 1
#23751492 - 10/19/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its because if any of these hypothesis panned out this would no longer be the first case of Psilocybe azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area. I guess hippy pride can be pretty silly at times.
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RiverDweller1



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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Byrain] 2
#23751517 - 10/19/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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All pride can be silly at times
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DavidReishi
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Byrain]
#23751693 - 10/19/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Byrain said: Its because if any of these hypothesis panned out this would no longer be the first case of Psilocybe azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area. I guess hippy pride can be pretty silly at times.
You've got it wrong once again, Byrain. I added "first case" in the title for effect. I invested nothing in that aspect, though I was fairly certain that it's the first documented azurescens find in the Bay. Which it appears to be. So by what logic does how the patch ended up there change that?
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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Byrain

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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: DavidReishi]
#23751721 - 10/19/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If that was true then why are you arguing over some silly bs rather than musing over the potential ways this patch came into existence? I would suggest we drop this and continue on with more worthy discussions.
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maynardjameskeenan
The white stipes



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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Byrain] 5
#23751743 - 10/19/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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"You cannot reason people out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.”
-------------------- May you be filled with loving kindness. May you be well. May you be peaceful and at ease. May you be happy. AMU Q&A
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Lucis
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#23751752 - 10/19/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just find it funny that everyone is fighting over shrooms, seems a bit strange.
Of course I blew my mind years ago, so maybe I am not grasping the severity of the situation.
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DavidReishi
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#23751770 - 10/19/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: "You cannot reason people out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.”
Dude, every time you come at me you end up scampering off with your tail between your legs. Give it up already.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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maynardjameskeenan
The white stipes



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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: DavidReishi] 1
#23751788 - 10/19/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread is funny if nothing else. Thanks for the laughs.
-------------------- May you be filled with loving kindness. May you be well. May you be peaceful and at ease. May you be happy. AMU Q&A
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DavidReishi
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#23752735 - 10/19/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aside from Alan deleting a few of my choicest tid-bits, I've got no regrets about anything said by me above. I created a post on location about an amazing find, the first documented Azure find in the Bay area, and certain of you tried to ruin the thread from the get-go. That's on you guys...all I did was defend what I think is true according to my knowlege of the location and carefully mete out pricks in response to your uncalled for innuendos and insults.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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Hammer92
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: DavidReishi] 1
#23752834 - 10/19/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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David resishi I am amazed at your find, fucking gorgeous. Haters gonna hate, that's just life. I am no longer amazed when I see people being shitty on here, they're jealous of your success bro. And more than likely alot of them sit on the Internet trolling this mushroom forum and miss out on experiencing actual mushroom hunting, especially successful hunting like you've shown here. My question is this: how do these geniuses know how that patch got there from being on the Internet? I wonder if any of them went to your patch, observed it closely, and then came to a conclusion about it's origins? I'm pretty sure they just talk shit on the Internet and have small minds. Keep up the good hunt, don't let shroomerite fools bring you down, the cultivation board is even more loaded with egotistical fucks but there's alot of them in hunting and identifying too. I'd recommend a good dose of pussy for these nobody's, it'll take the edge off.
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DavidReishi
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: Hammer92]
#23752919 - 10/19/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hammer92 said: David resishi I am amazed at your find, fucking gorgeous. Haters gonna hate, that's just life. I am no longer amazed when I see people being shitty on here, they're jealous of your success bro. And more than likely alot of them sit on the Internet trolling this mushroom forum and miss out on experiencing actual mushroom hunting, especially successful hunting like you've shown here. My question is this: how do these geniuses know how that patch got there from being on the Internet? I wonder if any of them went to your patch, observed it closely, and then came to a conclusion about it's origins? I'm pretty sure they just talk shit on the Internet and have small minds. Keep up the good hunt, don't let shroomerite fools bring you down, the cultivation board is even more loaded with egotistical fucks but there's alot of them in hunting and identifying too. I'd recommend a good dose of pussy for these nobody's, it'll take the edge off.
Thank you. And I think everything you said is on point.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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tnj8228
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Re: The first case of Psilocybe Azurescens in the San Francisco Bay Area [Re: DavidReishi] 1
#23753294 - 10/19/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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lolololol lol oh man I absolutely love how you ruffle feathers
cool find for sure.
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