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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: Xlea321]
    #2371354 - 02/23/04 12:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Seems like the findings are completely against pentagon interests because more money needs diverting from defence to environmental issues.

exactly. that's why this document, if you read their statements, is not urging us to cut back on fossil fuels, but to prepare militarily for the warfare ahead of us.


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: ]
    #2371386 - 02/23/04 12:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty convoluted reasoning you're working on here mush. So the best way of increasing defence spending is to say the environment is a bigger threat than terrorism..and because the environment is a bigger threat than terrorism we should spend more not on the environment...but defence?  :confused:


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: Xlea321]
    #2371400 - 02/23/04 12:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

absolutely. we all know how seriously they take terrorism. by saying that the environment is an even bigger threat to national security than that, they can easily give the implications of grave, imminent danger they want to give.

it is not in the self-interest of the pentagon to suggest that we cut fossil fuel use. it is in their self-interest to suggest that we increase military spending. you yourself have admitted this. their message here is to boost military spending, not cut fossil fuel usage. big surprise.


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: Xlea321]
    #2371408 - 02/23/04 12:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Alex123 said:
Pretty convoluted reasoning you're working on here mush. So the best way of increasing defence spending is to say the environment is a bigger threat than terrorism..and because the environment is a bigger threat than terrorism we should spend more not on the environment...but defence?  :confused:



Government agencies are notorious for coming up with all sorts of 'nightmare' scenarios in order to prod legislatures to increase funding.  Is that concept so hard to grasp for you?


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: ]
    #2371429 - 02/23/04 12:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

we all know how seriously they take terrorism. by saying that the environment is an even bigger threat to national security than that, they can easily give the implications of grave, imminent danger they want to give.

Do you honestly believe this shit? Seriously?

You really don't think they consider climate change a threat and they've just made it all up to somehow get more spending on defence?


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: Evolving]
    #2371430 - 02/23/04 12:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wtf do we need more defense for?! lol, i dont understand...  :shake:


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2371662 - 02/23/04 01:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't say it was rational, I'm just stating that's how it works.


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: Xlea321]
    #2371704 - 02/23/04 01:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This sounds like more pentagon warm-mongering to me!

get it.. warm-mongering? eh... yea.

In 5 billion years, give or take, our sun is going to get about 200x bigger than it is now, meaning earth will be totally fucked. So, in a sense, global warming will destroy us, 100% for sure, at some point in the future.


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2371843 - 02/23/04 02:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

One things for sure - George Bush is doing his best to make sure it happens as soon as possible.


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: Xlea321]
    #2374873 - 02/24/04 07:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Alex123 said:
One things for sure - George Bush is doing his best to make sure it happens as soon as possible.




you'd think he'd try to develop a way to make the earth colder, so this oil hes secretly pumping out (with the patented "RightWingPump", used to deseminate Clinton and spread his love juice on lewinsky's dress) would have to be used to warm us. Maybe he could have NASA launch a space ship, then get it caught between two big mountains so that the trusters can slow down the revolution of the earth, thus making one side much colder! Just like in Darkwing Duck!


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Re: Pentagon: "Climate change will destroy us" [Re: Xlea321]
    #27477815 - 09/22/21 08:17 AM (30 days, 3 hours ago)

Well only 2 1/2 more years left for these predictions to come true and prove all them dumb libertarians wrong….

I know this guy might not be around anymore but there are a lot of HIM on this forum.


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