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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23742603 - 10/16/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why should what Clinton did excuse Trump?  Why should what Clinton did have anything to do with Trump?  Bill did it so it's okay if Trump did too?  Doesn't make a lot of sense.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23742607 - 10/16/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Always a deflection to Clinton. Always.




I don't play by your rules. The Democrats have set a standard, and I'm holding them to that standard, so deal with it. If I have to cite Clinton, so be it. Don't pretend like that's off limits.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23742636 - 10/16/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Its a deflection away from Trump himself. Period.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23742645 - 10/16/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Why should what Clinton did excuse Trump?  Why should what Clinton did have anything to do with Trump?  Bill did it so it's okay if Trump did too?  Doesn't make a lot of sense.




You're the one suggesting that a President can't be someone who shows a proclivity towards lusting after women. And I'm saying that that is complete bullshit given the precedent already set by former Presidents who functioned just fine performing their duties as President, despite being cooze hounds. Are you saying we can't oblige this "from now on"? As if 2016 is some arbitrary magical year where this type of stuff all the sudden matters to everyone?

I contend that a Trump Presidency is being opposed by the powers that be for much different reasons than what you're suggesting. This 'sex stuff' is just media fodder meant to shape public opinion, nothing more. If you understood the real reasons why the establishment doesn't want Trump in office, you'd understand how disingenuous and irrelevant this particular smear campaign truly is.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 2
    #23742648 - 10/16/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Even without all that hes still a horrible presidential prospect.

The man cant even speak.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23742674 - 10/16/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



In all seriousness, though. Bush Jr. was worse at speaking than Trump.

And we've had plenty of eloquent-speaking liars in office. Lawyer after lawyer who know how to sound good while saying nothing but doublespeak. If eloquent speech is your ultimate metric, then you have been conditioned to accept that the more polished the Presidential puppet show, the more qualified the candidate. Frankly, that's pathetic, and you should know better.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 2
    #23742734 - 10/16/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think any of you guys are getting it. Sexual Assault is illegal. Taking 90% of the money that was donated to Haiti is fraud, and fraud is illegal. Setting up private servers in blatant disregard of a known risk is illegal.
Bill should be in jail. Hillary should be in jail. If Trump is guilty of sexually assaulting women or stealing money through fraud, then guess what? He should be in jail. What the fuck don't you people understand about this shit?

Hillary is guilty of the most terrible shit you can think of. She is living lavishly at the expense of human hunger when she takes money that was donated under the assumption that she would use her channels to divert the funds to impoverished nations, yet keeps nearly 90% for herself. How in the fuck can you support that? She took the fact that children were starving in Haiti to raise money, and then pocketed that money. How evil do you have to be to do that? Fuck what trump SAID about women. Look at what Hillary DID to starving children. Look what Hillary DID to get a rapist off of rape, and later laughed about it. Look at what Bill did, and how Hillary defended and enabled him.

So go ahead, get mad at Trump. That shit he SAID was very inappropriate. Just don't be ridiculous fucking hypocrites.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23742973 - 10/16/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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This isnt directed at Eminence, but do Trump supporters have any explanation of why theyre voting for him that doesnt involve the word Hillary?



Yup. He has more experience as an executive than any other candidate.




Thats why youre voting for him?



It's one reason. There are a lot more


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 2
    #23743077 - 10/16/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think any of you guys are getting it. Sexual Assault is illegal. Taking 90% of the money that was donated to Haiti is fraud, and fraud is illegal. Setting up private servers in blatant disregard of a known risk is illegal.
Bill should be in jail. Hillary should be in jail. If Trump is guilty of sexually assaulting women or stealing money through fraud, then guess what? He should be in jail. What the fuck don't you people understand about this shit?

Hillary is guilty of the most terrible shit you can think of. She is living lavishly at the expense of human hunger when she takes money that was donated under the assumption that she would use her channels to divert the funds to impoverished nations, yet keeps nearly 90% for herself. How in the fuck can you support that? She took the fact that children were starving in Haiti to raise money, and then pocketed that money. How evil do you have to be to do that? Fuck what trump SAID about women. Look at what Hillary DID to starving children. Look what Hillary DID to get a rapist off of rape, and later laughed about it. Look at what Bill did, and how Hillary defended and enabled him.

So go ahead, get mad at Trump. That shit he SAID was very inappropriate. Just don't be ridiculous fucking hypocrites.




they should both be in jail imo, if we actually held these people accountable we'd soon run out of politicians and business tycoons, and that in itself would be rather novel

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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10] * 2
    #23743581 - 10/16/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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This isnt directed at Eminence, but do Trump supporters have any explanation of why theyre voting for him that doesnt involve the word Hillary?



Yup. He has more experience as an executive than any other candidate.




Thats why youre voting for him?



It's one reason. There are a lot more




By all means, share.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23748336 - 10/18/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hillary is going to win.

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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Canon]
    #23748351 - 10/18/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You very well may be right, but that doesn't mean she'll win fairly. She'll do everything she can to win and fraud is just part of her plan to get there.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Eminence]
    #23748361 - 10/18/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, there is a big fraud. I meann, what is with all these 33 000 emails she deleted?

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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Eminence] * 2
    #23748426 - 10/18/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why risk cheating when your numbers look like this?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
    #23748480 - 10/18/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

We can't say that she'll win until we see the rest of the wikileaks. I mean how many times can she flirt with scandal before something truly disqualifying emerges? She has been careless and I think Julian Assange could be laying out a narrative only Dems can read at the moment and they seem to be acting uncharacteristically, charging the Russians and whatnot.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
    #23748496 - 10/18/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ever thought that those numbers could be the result of cheating or lying, perhaps? I find it weird how Trump's rallies are always packed full, and so many of Hillary's have empty seats all over, to the point where the camera will avoid panning out and giving a full view of the stadium :lol:

When the bitch starts a war with Russia over "cyberattacks" AKA exposing Hillary's dirty secrets, maybe you'll regret standing up for her.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Eminence] * 3
    #23748552 - 10/18/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Ever thought that those numbers could be the result of cheating or lying, perhaps? I find it weird how Trump's rallies are always packed full, and so many of Hillary's have empty seats all over, to the point where the camera will avoid panning out and giving a full view of the stadium :lol:




I do my best to avoid watching any 24/7 cable news coverage of either candidate giving their stump speech for the 10,000th time. Ill grant that Trump has bigger rallies, as Sanders also had. This fact is also well reported on, and isn't some conspiracy. Unfortunately, it is votes on Nov.8 that matter for choosing the POTUS, not rally attendance. And the best instruments we have to estimate votes all point to a Clinton victory. And if impartial camera focusing is the prime example of cheating, I'd say we have a damn fair media and clean race.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
    #23748569 - 10/18/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That wasn't a main point I was making, but there was a craigslist ad offering to pay "seat-fillers" at an event for Hillary, so her campaign must be looking for ways to make it appear that she's got more support than she really does, which makes me believe there's a chance that her poll numbers could be faked as well. I don't think it's too far fetched. :shrug:

Also, I know there are a lot of Jill Stein supporters here (along with a lot of Bernie supporters who still support Hillary even after she fucked him out of the race) so here's this if you want to hear some feedback on Hillary from someone you guys support rather than just Trump supporters on the Shroomery.



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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #23748619 - 10/18/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Damn Stein Laying it down!


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
    #23748813 - 10/18/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

She makes a good point.  :shrug:


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