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finally tried mapacho
    #23747737 - 10/18/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'd been wanting to try mapacho for a long time, as I am quite interested in the shamanic usage of tobacco. I am just so lazy it often takes me months to get around to stuff. But I finally got around to ordering some last week, and all i can say is wow. This stuff blows American tobacco out of the water in terms of potency. It is extremely powerful and extremely shamanic. I could feel its spirit with me for hours after smoking it. I look forward to working with this plant.

What have your experiences with Ma[acho been?


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23747751 - 10/18/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Never heard of it. What is it like?


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: Nescobar]
    #23747752 - 10/18/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

well it's like american tobacco but far stronger. i've been trying to learn how to use tobacco shamanically, for healing for a long time now so what I experience from tobacco is probably different to the average person. Tobacco is a very mysterious plant for me.

American tobacco is contaminated with bad medicine (negative energy) from the white man.


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23747754 - 10/18/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds interesting. Might give it a try


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: Nescobar]
    #23747788 - 10/18/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So is Mapacho not addictive and will it not destroy your lungs and give you cancer like normal tobacco?

I have a hard time thinking of tobacco as healing to be honest! Sure its not just a shamanic fallacy?


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: wolf8312]
    #23747823 - 10/18/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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wolf8312 said:
So is Mapacho not addictive and will it not destroy your lungs and give you cancer like normal tobacco?

I have a hard time thinking of tobacco as healing to be honest! Sure its not just a shamanic fallacy?




The difference is they usually don't inhale and don't use it like westerns. They use it in ritual not contently like someone who smokes.
They blow it on you and on the aya they prep to "move energy and give protection"

I'm pretty sure if you smoke it everyday like most people do with normal tobacco it'll give you hella cancer.


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23748183 - 10/18/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Pretty hardcore if you arent a smoker. Dry,harsh and powerful. I had a brick of some mapacho grown by a indian tribe I think in Wisconsin? Not sure, One hit had me buzzing but also salivating too. Definitely potent tobacco. I would only smoke it from a pipe.


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: Herbgrower12]
    #23748585 - 10/18/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I used to gather the rustica tobacco from my spot in the hills of a rich neighborhood in Los Angeles.


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: sunshine]
    #23748831 - 10/18/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There are several other uses of mapacho than smoking it. I don't like smoking it, actually, I don't like the taste and it makes me salivate like hell.

You can make a snuff out of it, which Brazilians call rapé, in which the tobacco is usually mixed with some other plants, but you can use pure mapacho. Just grind it to a very fine powder, and have someone blow it up your nose with a little tube or something, one nostril at a time. It's not the same if you just snort it. Powerful stuff, especially on ayahuasca.

Or you can dilute it, and either inject it in your nose lying backwards, or just snort a bit from your hand palm. This can be very strong too.

Finally, you can also drink the liquid, for several purposes: either you drink a large glass of dark mapacho infusion, and then a large amount of water in order to purge. This can be slightly or seriously psychoactive, depending on individuals and set and setting. It can be quite an experience, and feels very cleansing. You can also do a tobacco dieta, where you abstain from all sorts of foods and drink some tobacco juice every evening before you go to sleep. This can sometimes give you quite amazing dreams. Caution: for these last two uses, it is highly advisable to take the tobacco under expert supervision. People have died from this, although it's extremely exceptional. But if you start throwing up a little blood like I did once, it's good to have someone around to tell you if this is normal or not. It was, in my case :smile:


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: wolf8312]
    #23748931 - 10/18/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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wolf8312 said:
So is Mapacho not addictive and will it not destroy your lungs and give you cancer like normal tobacco?

I have a hard time thinking of tobacco as healing to be honest! Sure its not just a shamanic fallacy?




Tobacco is one of the most ancient and sacred medicines of the Americas, probably THE most sacred plant of all if you include the cultures of both north and south america. It was never associated with disease until the white man came.

Mapacho will not destroy your lungs or give you cancer, unless perhaps you are determined to abuse it. It contains 20 times as much nicotine as american tobacco. One puff one a mapacho cigarette is all you need.

It's a shame how people have become so afraid of tobacco, which is such an incredibly powerful and healing plant, just because in the modern day it has become associated with abuse and addiction.


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Re: finally tried mapacho [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23751194 - 10/19/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Does it get you high?

You said you were smoking it though right dude? I find it all a bit vague in regards to the true purpose guys such as yourself smoke Mapacho. What exactly is the experience and how exactly does it heal you?
 
Sounds like a really strong form of tobacco to me and pretty much everyone gets addicted to tobacco as a result of an impressionable attempt to imitate somebody that they thought was really cool!

Just trying to understand for when people use words like 'sacred' and 'healing' is this what they have found through their own experience or is it simply repetition of what Amazon Shamans and people in the Ayahuasca community say?


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