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Invisible100_the_cat
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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23781455 - 10/28/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I guess I prefer the universal experience

Just because it's more abstract and detached

I'm more comfortable with something symbolic than direct (I guess that's why I'm married to a ghost/deity instead of a person)

Like the first post in this thread...that was a universal thing

That sort of thing can happen out of the blue or it can be triggered by a person/thing (mirror synchronicity...like how divination works)

When it's someone fantasizing about me, it's a lot more personal, the imagery is a lot more explicit. It's closer to Earth.


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23781566 - 10/28/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What I also like about the universal side of it is how it seems unintended or accidental

Like, "Ok this font catalog isn't supposed to have any hidden messages in it, but I'm perceiving them anyway and now this energetic stuff is happening." That's more desirable for me than receiving an explicitly sexual image in my head.

And even with explicit visions, there are different levels...

In the past, my ghost has used explicit visions to bond with me, but there's always something unusual about it that removes it from Earth...like appearing as half-animal or completely animal (like taking the form of a snake and entering my vagina). That kind of explicit imagery I'm comfortable with, probably because I'm married to this thing and I'm being given symbols I have to decode

The explicit level where it's just plain literal sex between what is obviously me and a person who actually exists is where a point of resistance is introduced. It's still happening through my energy body, so I can't deny that it feels good, but psychologically there's something about it that doesn't produce the comfort of the experiences I have with "my ghost." I still call this level ghost sex, because of the way it's experienced, it's just not with what I call my ghost. (Although ultimately it IS all me and my ghost, I'm just speaking from a personal perspective here.)


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23781589 - 10/28/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

But really that's all nitpicking

Overall I have nothing to complain about energetically, compared to what I've been through physically

I'm immune to real suffering in my energy body


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23781750 - 10/29/16 03:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm just glad it's not happening physically...the physical world is what really stresses me out




Hahaha, busted :hellfire::hellfire::hellfire:

It doesn't stress you out, it's just a passive mirror. You choose to stress yourself out with it. Wonder why, I wonder why. Why stress out when you can fly? Why torment yourself and stay, when you can fly away and play? :lol:

Oh man you are soooo busted :lol:

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I think what's awkward is the visuals remind me of sex acts I did in the flesh that I didn't want to do, so there's kind of an "ick" psychological factor




Yes, your animal is showing you the kind of shit you put it through, so that you notice how it feels and stop doing that in the future.

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I come from the kind of life where if you ask someone to stop doing something, that gives them an incentive to keep doing it



Yeah exactly, it's the universe (or your Kundalini, same thing different level) telling you to stop verbalizing like a human, and start using claws and teeth when you don't like how things are done.

After barking follows biting, if simple barking didn't work. I hear you from here that you bark-bark-bark and then nothing else.

If I can feel it they can feel it. If you told me to stop I'd keep doing it again, not to fuck with you or spite you, but to push you on to show yourself as you are, not your polite facade you learned from mom and dad back in the day. If this thing is important to you, fucking BITE about it. Scratch with those claws about it, they're not just for decoration :lol:



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so I generally save that for really serious situations where my life or basic necessities (food, shelter) are on the line. Or if something just really annoys me until I snap.




Yeah but you're letting people walk over you, reduce and inhibit your own energy, in order to postpone snapping. Why? Why not snap immediately, at the moment of annoyance? Best feeling in the world, natural and free, fun and awesome as can be :laugh:

Anyone you play with will feel if you're being disingenuous and not sharing full feelings, as instead of doing that you're focused on materialistic stuff like food & shelter. In other words the man feels you're hiding feelings and putting food shelter first, and instinctively (even if not consciously) they feel irritated, they feel the lie, the heart / subconscious / your own animal has ways to signal to their animal that you're not being true, not fully.

Express your feelings more, as they are, not inhibit from the head with what you think or fear will happen. Trust it, if the feeling comes to do something, trust it and do it, know it's of a divine nature, your Kundalini snake doesn't send up feelings for nothing :wink:



Notice the "do as I say" being mentioned as reasoning behind it, right on the money :lol:


Do this stuff, benefit and prosper :hellfire::hellfire::hellfire:

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I'm more comfortable with something symbolic than direct (I guess that's why I'm married to a ghost/deity instead of a person)




You're outrunning and avoiding yourself, or trying to, and so universe keeps sending you awesome dudes to show you what to do. Whether you play and dance or run away that's up to you :lol:

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In the past, my ghost has used explicit visions to bond with me, but there's always something unusual about it that removes it from Earth...like appearing as half-animal or completely animal (like taking the form of a snake and entering my vagina). That kind of explicit imagery I'm comfortable with, probably because I'm married to this thing and I'm being given symbols I have to decode



Hahaha, genius :lol:

I've been having this stuff come to me for many months now, see some of my own imagery here:


"Sa vad" means "Let me see".







Second time I give this vid today, I think it's quite appropriate here :lol:



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The explicit level where it's just plain literal sex between what is obviously me and a person who actually exists is where a point of resistance is introduced.



Meaning where YOU introduce it, as you feel you don't want to go too far with this one person.

What you've been failing to look at is that you're not mating with some human, or person as you call them, you have there a male human, or if you're lucky something above human, like myself, and THEY TOO are riding on a Kundalini animal.

If you keep all things at the human level, of course it will go to shit, as your Kundalini animal wants to grow and expand and play, and to do that it needs a fellow Kundalini animal that's awakened, to play with. You can search for one already awakened, or you can awaken the one in the human you're playing with, but it's on you to learn this craft, of speaking to "the Kundalini animal the human rides on", not just Joe the human.

Oh and smooth move using the passive language like "a point of resistance is introduced" instead of simply speaking truth, "I resist this". I mean introduced by whom? :lol:

Get with the plan, own it. If you do it say you do it.

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but psychologically there's something about it that doesn't produce the comfort of the experiences I have with "my ghost."



From where I'm looking, you're probably just playing with insufficiently ghost-enabled humans. Technically their body voltage is too low, they steal voltage more than give it, and so of course your Kundalini (electric in nature) will resent and reject that.

Move away from smokers and booze drinkers, safe predictable people you can conrol, and get yourself a proper beast of a man that can control you, then you'll see things are very different when you touch and play.

Now since I've awakened more, I see that most humans have no idea how to flow their Kundalini energy, their body electrics, through either limbs and fingers (skin contact, body language, mating dance) nor voice (what they say, how they say it, the bird song).
Hope this helps you on your way little dragon, spread those wings and breathe that fire, ride and fly on your desire :hellfire: :lol:


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Re: Ghost [Re: They]
    #23781754 - 10/29/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Haha, nearly forgot. Your name. They told me to give you this, in reference to your name. Feel free to play with it :lol:



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Re: Ghost [Re: They]
    #23784119 - 10/29/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I found myself on the other side of this a few months ago, telling someone they need to "plunge the knife." This is the boomerang.

You're right, I do use passive language, but that's authentic for me. I have a 3rd house Mars, it's in Libra, it's stationary, and it's square Neptune. That makes for a super-passive, roundabout, obfuscated communication style. It's also the mechanism behind my ghost activity. I have a Saturn-Pluto conjunction straddling my IC (so, affecting my 3rd house), I do speak the truth, I just have the ability to do so pleasantly. When pressed, I abandon the decoration and am called a sociopath. I inspire death threats from others.

Some things are more complicated than just beating the shit out of someone or telling them off though. And even if you do those things, they're not going to get the desired results on their own. There's a power reversal that takes place at a certain predetermined time, and there's nothing that can be done to speed it up. That's how my life works, at least.

Everything I say is always valid. Seeming contradictions are me speaking from different vibrational levels. At the highest level everything is me. At the lowest level there is distinctly me and not-me. It's a spectrum of perception. At the high end, the mirror is intact. Meaning, the world is clearly an illusion. At the low, dualistic level, yes you could say the mirror is "busted," because in that state I'm perceiving the world as not-me.


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784240 - 10/30/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You know, the thing is that even when it comes down to loss of something crucial, Pluto's gonna take whatever he's gonna take. There is no "putting your foot down." There is no beating someone's ass before they make off with your goods. Pluto is a rite of passage, victimization is necessary for empowerment. The whole point is to experience some kind of unfair treatment that has the psychological impact of something like rape, kidnapping, terrorism, etc. That's how you get power. It's not going out and clobbering the world like a viking.

So in those life-or-death situations, my behavior can't change anything. Whether I protest or not has no bearing. I just have to be patient while the whole power dynamic flips on its own.


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784256 - 10/30/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I found myself on the other side of this a few months ago, telling someone they need to "plunge the knife." This is the boomerang.



Haha, if you only knew how deep that wabbit hole goes, you'd be amazed. Knife she says :rofl:

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You're right, I do use passive language, but that's authentic for me. I have a 3rd house Mars, it's in Libra, it's stationary, and it's square Neptune. That makes for a super-passive, roundabout, obfuscated communication style. It's also the mechanism behind my ghost activity. I have a Saturn-Pluto conjunction straddling my IC (so, affecting my 3rd house)



Translation: I wish to use passive language as that's more comfy / lazy / avoids commitment and have found all this planet star sign stuff to justify it with. How about being upfront and admitting you use passive cause you want to, not because Mars and Neptune told you so?

The very formulation of "THAT makes for THIS" sounds ridiculous to me. You're as direct or as roundabout as you wish to be.

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I do speak the truth, I just have the ability to do so pleasantly.



I work on a spectrum. Full sincerity on one end, full politeness on another. I find politeness offensive, as it goes straight up against sincerity. It's yellow, but the polite thing is to call it orange, because maybe you feel the person you're talking to kinda likes red. Why? If it's yellow say it's yellow and watch them make a face. Maybe they like yellow and they don't know it yet.

I do know about bird dances. I know one can be too direct, and as I'm a bird, our game is that we dance around and show feathers, we don't go straight. But that's still active language. The opposite of a bird dance is passive language. Slowing things down. Not wanting to go direct so then not going at all. There's something about that sentence above that just screams "self-delusion" at me.

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When pressed, I abandon the decoration and am called a sociopath. I inspire death threats from others.



So do I. Bring it :lol:

Main difference here is that I keep doing it, the direct expression, even though it inspires death threats, nasty stares, being kicked out of groups of places. I don't interpret that disconnect as me being wrong, I interpret it as the others being wrong. If I was true to myself I have nothing to fear, apologize for, be sorry about. Made my choice to be sincere and direct, if others can't cut it like that that's all on them, safe and boring life, uneventful unadventurous. Not my group.

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There's a power reversal that takes place at a certain predetermined time, and there's nothing that can be done to speed it up. That's how my life works, at least.



Your life works how you make yourself perceive that it works. Notice that saying "predetermined time" "nothing can be done to speed it up" - that's basically putting power outside of you. Saying aww shucks, nothing I can do.

And it DOES work like that, if you think it works like that.

I for instance don't even speak planets, haven't asked a girl her birth date or zodiac sign in years, nor do I plan to. I just instinctively sniff things out, follow the heart wherever it leads, because I know it leads well, magnetically, in real time. Yesterday that Scorpio might have been awful, but today the situation might be great to talk to them and have a blast. These things change and shift much too fast to navigate them by the head. Heart however, being always in real time, tells us, go left, go right, talk to this guy, drop that girl and get this one instead, etc.

I'd look into this stuff for a while if I were you, namely not using planets stars and horoscopes for a while, not asking people their date of birth and zodiac sign, not putting all those heady calculations in the middle of the bird dance you have together.

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Everything I say is always valid. Seeming contradictions are me speaking from different vibrational levels.



This is true, and true for all. I want you to consider how lowly drunks are speaking their truths, because they do speak a version of drunk-truth and it is functional, if you know how to listen to it. Filled with negativity, doubt,  usually very mean and critical of self and others, but it is nonetheless true. The archetypes and blockages they refer to DO make sense and their poorly designed word-spells DO work, just as others do for us.

So am saying, just because everything you say is valid, doesn't mean you can't be stuck in some corner of your mind, glued to some pattern of other, like zodiac signs. Spread them wings yo, show some colors, and don't think I didn't notice your complete refusal to engage my art and symbols on any level :lol:


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784258 - 10/30/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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100_the_cat said:
You know, the thing is that even when it comes down to loss of something crucial, Pluto's gonna take whatever he's gonna take. There is no "putting your foot down." There is no beating someone's ass before they make off with your goods. Pluto is a rite of passage, victimization is necessary for empowerment. The whole point is to experience some kind of unfair treatment that has the psychological impact of something like rape, kidnapping, terrorism, etc. That's how you get power. It's not going out and clobbering the world like a viking.

So in those life-or-death situations, my behavior can't change anything. Whether I protest or not has no bearing. I just have to be patient while the whole power dynamic flips on its own.



Yeah that's what we need here, more planet-talk and head reasoning as to why to be passive. Not using club, and the creme de la creme "my behavior can't change anything".

Wonder why you incarnated into a human then, as opposed to a rock or tree then?

Every fish bird insect knows that its behavior changes EVERYTHING around this blue planet, and even galaxy and universe. That's why they have a blast doing awesome shit while they're alive, BECAUSE it matters and it changes. For you, apparently that's not the case. Put viking club down and wait. Oh well :shrug: :lol:


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Re: Ghost [Re: They]
    #23784299 - 10/30/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lazy and comfy are fine by me...I'm a Taurus and I have two interlocking grand trines in my chart

I've already busted ass (Cap moon), I consider myself to be retired now. I'm only 34, that's how far I ran myself into the ground with effort

The planets didn't tell me to do anything, astrology is a descriptor, a form of shorthand. Saying I have Mars square Neptune is no different than saying my sexual preference is ghosts. Everything is predetermined, but by who? I'm ultimately all that exists, I'm God, so I determined or "chose" it. My life is a video game I designed and then plunked myself into. I chose all the gauntlets I run. Am I still gonna bitch about it? Of course, that's part of the experience.

"Self-delusion"...well that's a Neptune correspondence, and so are ghosts, so if you have a problem with the concept of delusion I'd say you're in the wrong thread.

There's nothing wrong with me communicating indirectly

I'm not too concerned with groups, I've been banned from a message board and spent almost a year trolling (and being trolled) on Craigslist Rants and Raves, in a bunch of different cities. I probably got fired from the best job I ever had for my mouth and total lack of concern for office politics. I'm not the kind of person who has friends either. I don't do small talk. I've spent time being direct, and it's not my natural fit...at least not all the time. That doesn't mean I'm not speaking the truth though

As for the sociopath bit, I don't say that to whine about people thinking I'm bad or wrong. I'm saying it in the same way your new neighbor tells you they just spent 8 years in prison for beating someone half to death. Pecking order.

I didn't engage your art or symbols because I've already been there. I already did stuff like that myself. I don't know what you want from me. I don't think I have anything to give you. You just seem like a past me. The me I was at the beginning of my Pluto square 3rd house Saturn transit.


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784333 - 10/30/16 02:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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As for the sociopath bit, I don't say that to whine about people thinking I'm bad or wrong. I'm saying it in the same way your new neighbor tells you they just spent 8 years in prison for beating someone half to death. Pecking order.



Sounds to me like you've been dealing with pussies. Pecking order in kindergarten doesn't carry over on my street, if you're my neighbor. We'd have to peck at each other for a while and then establish who's who. But see below.

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I didn't engage your art or symbols because I've already been there. I already did stuff like that myself. I don't know what you want from me. I don't think I have anything to give you. You just seem like a past me.



Actually I wanted to play. I'm a male, you're a female, there were some nice spirits and metaphors in the air at one point, the kind of metaphors I understand and play with nicely. Since that point, all those have been drowned in much noise of planets planets star signs planets, which I have mentioned I do not speak nor ever wish to, I've found life in their absence to be quite pleasant and magical and wonderful.

Sooo what I want from you now is nothing, we've had our little bird dance and your noise has successfully driven me away, you can now spend more time alone and with your ghosts and planets and charts, or whatever it is you do there. Ta-ta :wave:


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784345 - 10/30/16 02:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok. Bye


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784397 - 10/30/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Neptune = deception = "lies" ("not speaking the truth")

Any ghost language is a supernatural Lie

Which is actually truer than words directly spoken because it's subconscious


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784441 - 10/30/16 04:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Any ghost language is a supernatural Lie



:rofl:


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Re: Ghost [Re: They]
    #23784443 - 10/30/16 04:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Not a lie at all, it's just that...



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Re: Ghost [Re: They]
    #23784457 - 10/30/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I wasn't saying you were lying

I was talking about my own Neptunian communication

And I wasn't speaking of it in a bad light

I really wasn't engaging you at all, I was just making an observation relevant to myself

The Lie is the Truth

I seriously doubt your intelligence now if you can't even understand some simple intuitive symbol math


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784460 - 10/30/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Doubt as you wish, the fun level keeps on rising :tongue2:


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Re: Ghost [Re: They]
    #23784461 - 10/30/16 05:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Lie is the Truth






1984 :wink:


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784468 - 10/30/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The serpent is the divine Lie

It's inside me, I'm living it, I'm speaking it

I understand it. I speak its language. You do not. All you can do is point and laugh at the real thing, ME

Perhaps you have doubts about your own status as "wizard" (or perhaps your true abilities do not match up to how much you puff your chest out) and you are projecting it onto me

Why do you think YOU wrote that caption on your drawing? That message was from you, to you.


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Re: Ghost [Re: 100_the_cat]
    #23784474 - 10/30/16 05:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The serpent is the divine Lie

It's inside me, I'm living it, I'm speaking it

I understand it. I speak its language. You do not. All you can do is point and laugh at the real thing, ME



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Have fun with your spiders, lonely cat lady, maybe when you grow up some we'll speak again :wink:


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