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First grow
    #23746966 - 10/17/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

After a heroic dose left my brother and I feeling like we missed something I had 6 jars inoculated exactly one week later. 10 days later and they look life this.
Pictures are "front"and "back". Not sure why exactly one is getting way crazier than the others but I assume the rest will catch up.  0 contams thus far. 
UpDaYtE. First two day 13 second two day 10


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23746983 - 10/17/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Is that cakes or grains


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Re: First grow [Re: tump]
    #23746992 - 10/17/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23747002 - 10/17/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Damn. Just started my first grow, too. I really hope mine look as good as yours bro.


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Re: First grow [Re: Plazmotech] * 1
    #23747013 - 10/17/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Follow the pf tek directions... Foil off after sterilization


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Re: First grow [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23747028 - 10/17/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I took the foil off one of my jars after reading all the posts saying to do it.  Nada only one that's stalled with only a couple very very small patches in it. It's so depressing I didn't even get it in the picture.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23747104 - 10/17/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thats pf for ya. Sometimes they go through spurts and catch up. Sometimes they dont :lol:


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Re: First grow [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23755685 - 10/20/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

UpDaYtE. New picture update.


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Re: First grow [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23756541 - 10/20/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Follow the pf tek directions... Foil off after sterilization



For why? Is this an air exchange thing?


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Re: First grow [Re: irequirechocolate]
    #23756588 - 10/20/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No. But the reason why is in the tek and repeated twice a day for the last ten years

Hint: to avoid contamination


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Re: First grow [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23760302 - 10/22/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The foil is my lid  if i took the foil off they would be open jars nothing on top of them at all.  I Inoculated through the foil. Please post a picture of a PF jar with nothing covering it at all and I'll remove all foil.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23760362 - 10/22/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Doomed bro


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23760832 - 10/22/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

True. In that case carry on


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Re: First grow [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23760845 - 10/22/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Mason jars have lids. Using foil as the lid is for people living in third world squalor that have to use drinking glasses. Use lids for success


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Re: First grow [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23760985 - 10/22/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have some faith that he at least didn't have any lids at the time of pcing
I hope you didn't just decide not to use lids when you had lids readily available...
Although I dont disagree and even if you didn't have lids they would be a good investment and not that expensive either


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Re: First grow [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23761466 - 10/22/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Mason jars have lids. Using foil as the lid is for people living in third world squalor that have to use drinking glasses. Use lids for success



All my lids went rusty on my last Pf tek grow so I used foil as lids as I wasn't doing any more Pf tek got some good cakes and almost as many bad ones 3 different contams.


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Re: First grow [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23761546 - 10/22/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you can make injection ports or seal your holes for your pf tek jars to prevent rust:
Some tips about lids (rusty lids, sharp-edged lids, drilling holes...)


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Re: First grow [Re: enlightenment]
    #23764306 - 10/23/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Actually the pf tek I followed said either or.  It's last update was recent Oct. 2016 so I assumed if uncovering was needed it would have told me to do so. The pictures of all their jars has foil covering the jars from just after inoculation to birthing with no holes visible on top of their jars. 5 of the six are really colonizing well with no visible contaminations.  The sixth was not even a canning jar just a wide squatty half pint cup but it's finally coming around too.  I think the inoculation in that one didn't really hit the outside layer like it was supposed to and is going from inside out. A much as I'd love to just take the foil off at this point I think  I'm gonna leave well enough alone and continue following the tek I started with.  I got two syringes with my order of one cambodian  and next round I'll be using the lids instead of the foil. The second strain was actually the meanies which was discovered in this area so come late February early March I'll be starting my outside garden of them.  Got 8 acres might as well put some land to use. I'm quite familiar with lab procedures sterility and following the directions given to me lol which is exactly what I've done here.  I've read several posts after i had inoculated my jars saying to take the foil off so i tried it on one and it stopped while the others thrived. I feel confident that my grow is currently being successful so thanks for all the suggestions except the Doomed Bro guy.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23764378 - 10/23/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lol :shrug: opinions are allowed. Even if you grew one fruit you could consider it a success. Foil lids just aren't proper procedure. It  doesn't mean they haven't worked, they just haven't worked enough. Who wants to look at a grow they spent 2 months on only to say "meh, good enough"?


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Re: First grow [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23764453 - 10/23/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Pbf is right they can work, I've used them a few times but there is a noticeable increase in binned jars. Lids are cheap, so are jars with lids if your stuck or like me bored and was the last Pf tek your gonna do then fire away, but if this is the way you plan to go for a while its worth investing a couple $ or ÂŁ (depending on location) in a few well fitting lids they honestly do make a difference. I've argued this myself so have tried it twice with the same result, it does work just not that well.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23764534 - 10/23/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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After a heroic dose left my brother and I feeling like we missed something




*me and my brother
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Re: First grow [Re: Sergeant Whiskers] * 1
    #23764544 - 10/23/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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After a heroic dose left my brother and I feeling like we missed something




*me and my brother
Sorry but i had to :tongue2:



:hitler:


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Re: First grow [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23764558 - 10/23/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

dude is that a pf cake in your sig?!
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Re: First grow [Re: Sergeant Whiskers]
    #23764595 - 10/23/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Mist and fan, proper FAE, most importantly big fucking bag of luck :rofl:


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Re: First grow [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23764618 - 10/23/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:grin: hope you cloned that thing


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Re: First grow [Re: Sergeant Whiskers]
    #23764645 - 10/23/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nah didn't have any agar at that time. Did get a print but that's neither here nor there. Done with GT anyway lol


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Re: First grow [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23764664 - 10/23/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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After a heroic dose left my brother and I feeling like we missed something




*me and my brother
Sorry but i had to :tongue2:



:hitler:




Still wrong :wink: *my brother and me


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Re: First grow [Re: irequirechocolate]
    #23764693 - 10/23/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

actually "me and X" is grammatically correct, although its considered impolite to put the personal pronoun first (unless youre the queen :tongue:)


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Re: First grow [Re: Sergeant Whiskers]
    #23771057 - 10/25/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I see signs of the mycelium condensing in most of my jars now. Slightly pulling away from the side of the jars. They're anywhere from 60%-80% colonized.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23785039 - 10/30/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Their all around 90%+ even the one that  had completely stalled. I'm thinking I didn't inoculate the sides and it's been growing out of sight inside out.  I'm getting my sgfc ready to go.  I never thought there would be enough space for this many holes. Gonna be a long day of drilling.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23785099 - 10/30/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Don't forget about the consolidation period.  Cakes need about a week to consolidate (longer for slow growth).  The outside appearing to be colonized isn't enough, the innards also need to be fully colonized to commit those cakes to fruiting.


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Re: First grow [Re: Mushierage]
    #23785148 - 10/30/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yup i am fully aware.  I've already seen signs of condensing taking place along with the bottom of every jar being colonozed.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23798390 - 11/03/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Grow my precious grow. 


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23798594 - 11/03/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why no roll?


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Re: First grow [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23798622 - 11/03/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They were pinning and growing pretty quick and it seemed like they were telling me they just want to grow. I always listen to what the mushrooms tell me.I ignored them once never again.  I bottom watered and they sucked it up in 12 hours gave then some more and they didn't drink.  They also feel pretty hydrated. I've got one cake no pins I'm dunking right now.  Going to dunk and roll after these guys do their thing.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23798690 - 11/03/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Pins will grow perfectly fine after a roll.
Screw the mushrooms, listen to tell mycelium. It's screaming "roll me! roll me! I want to make you more pins! Why don't you listen?"
Those mushrooms are going to finish growing and then you're gunna pick em. Dry em. And your mycelium is left with less than optimal conditions for pinning.
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Re: First grow [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23798877 - 11/03/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ok so I'm gonna dunk and roll these other three got em soaking right now.  It's my first grow so I'm trying to build some personal experience.  I've done a ton of reading and I've seen success with both bottom watering and dunk and roll. Thought about doing the straw water technique with one cake but decided against it.    No reason I can't give them both a shot.  Honestly I'm just impressed with myself for having inoculated 6 jars and got all of them to this stage without contaminations.  Lol


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23799266 - 11/03/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah man congrats. I definitely know that feel. My first attempt went to shit a few years ago and when I tried again and had success (because of shroomery) I was over the moon. Do your thing man


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    #23799594 - 11/04/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks dude.  I appreciate your input.  You convinced me to dunk three instead of just one which I'm sure will pay dividends in the up coming days.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23801793 - 11/04/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm really enjoying watching the daily progression here.



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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23801848 - 11/04/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Comebackkid  lmao. I just realized that you're the dude whose  thread I read about using the foil pressed into the jar lids for a bottom watering system. Thanks for the idea.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23801865 - 11/04/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Those would benefit greatly with more fanning and proper lighting


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    #23801898 - 11/04/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They have both I fan 3-5 times a day can't anymore because I work everyday m-f.  The back three were put in there 2 minutes before I  took the picture. They've got good light.  Indirect from Windows and another light in the room to make it an even twelve.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23801932 - 11/04/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:rockon: I didn't notice at first 'cause I'm so used to seeing my own cakes with those foil cups, but that's awesome!

SGFC shouldn't need fanning tho


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Re: First grow [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23801972 - 11/04/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I agree.  I've got holes every were.  But I've got those big fluffy myc balls.  I heard they happened due to lack of fae. So i was just giving them a hand.  Plus the mushroom smell it wafts in to my nostrils is quite pleasing.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23805724 - 11/06/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Opened over night while I was sleeping now my perlite is purple. Got a good looking pin set coming in on the dunk and roll cakes now.




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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23805841 - 11/06/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nice lookin mushies!


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Re: First grow [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23806691 - 11/06/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Pins looking good on the cakes I dunked and rolled.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23813218 - 11/08/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Are these typical flush sizes for first flushes on cakes?



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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23814941 - 11/09/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

thats real good you did very well. Hopefully you fill the cake next time


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Re: First grow [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23815325 - 11/09/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey :congrats:
Those are some nice sized mushies for a first grow!
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Re: First grow [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23816570 - 11/09/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No cakes next time. Gonna get a pc and do grain agar etc


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23817539 - 11/09/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Get a load of this guy! Ataboy ataBOY! Woo I love it


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23817697 - 11/09/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a scientist. This is science. I love science. I ate my first 4 grams already currently have 13 cracker dried grams in a bag with a couple more drying now. All from my first flush.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23856405 - 11/22/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I ate 5 grams of my cambodian i just grew and it was so weak it almost wasn't even worth the effort it took to grow them. It was nice decent visuals good over all feeling but so weak it was quite disappointing. The second flush is finally coming in but the mushrooms are small and pathetic looking.  I hope the next batch I grow have better genetics.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23856416 - 11/22/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

5g's dry?


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Re: First grow [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23856432 - 11/22/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Damn son! That's some bad luck


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Re: First grow [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23856578 - 11/22/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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5g's dry?



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Re: First grow [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23856589 - 11/22/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Probably the noob version of cracker dry IE half way there maybe


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Re: First grow [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23859775 - 11/23/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How about when I tried to bend them they broke no give at all. Pretty sure that's cracker dry. Guess it's just some bad genetics. I've gotten 7 cracker dry grams so far from my second flush with a few more still growing so I hope but doubt these will be a little stronger.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23859781 - 11/23/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My brother ate 3.5 grams last night and said nothing happened. We are both very experienced with consuming these guys and we're both lost on how they could be so weak.


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Re: First grow [Re: BCJC]
    #23859961 - 11/23/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Did you eat them on an empty stomach? The lemon tek is said to bring out the actives ( I've never tried)


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Re: First grow [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23860143 - 11/23/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I lemon tek my doses on an empty stomach....I don't like the taste of dry mushrooms, I add a splash of 7up so it don't have the consistency of vomit..


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Re: First grow [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23860373 - 11/23/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yea i fast for 12 hours and eat them straight up gonna do the lemon tek next time


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Re: First grow [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23860404 - 11/23/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I lemon tek my doses on an empty stomach....I don't like the taste of dry mushrooms, I add a splash of 7up so it don't have the consistency of vomit..



Really I love the taste of dried cubes like mushroom flavoured crisp my mrs loves them but doesnt like tripping lol its fun watching her trying to figure out how many to safely eat lol


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Re: First grow [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23860576 - 11/23/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I lemon tek my doses on an empty stomach....I don't like the taste of dry mushrooms, I add a splash of 7up so it don't have the consistency of vomit..



Really I love the taste of dried cubes like mushroom flavoured crisp my mrs loves them but doesnt like tripping lol its fun watching her trying to figure out how many to safely eat lol




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Re: First grow [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23861179 - 11/23/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't really ate many varieties I really like, other than fried morels...but then again I don't eat too many...fresh cubes ain't too bad


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