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FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic"
    #23746222 - 10/17/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/16/politics/fbi-director-police-shootings/

"FBI Director James Comey told a gathering of police chiefs that people who think there's an epidemic of police shootings of black people aren't well-informed."

"A small group of videos serve as an epidemic" Comey argued Sunday"

Wow, a corrupt FBI Director is now telling the US public the truth- BLM and their followers are a bunch of retards getting played by Obama and the mainstream media. :rofl2:


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 6
    #23746235 - 10/17/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wow the guys who had a file on MLK and probably killed JFK said that :shocked: no way


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 4
    #23746247 - 10/17/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The same dude who's run (and still runs) covert campaigns to overthrow nations with democratically elected leaders? I'll totally take what he's saying at face value and never question his motives or allegiance.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 3
    #23746255 - 10/17/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Wow the guys who had a file on MLK and probably killed JFK said that :shocked: no way



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The same dude who's run (and still runs) covert campaigns to overthrow nations with democratically elected leaders? I'll totally take what he's saying at face value and never question his motives or allegiance.




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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23746258 - 10/17/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The same dude who's run (and still runs) covert campaigns to overthrow nations with democratically elected leaders? I'll totally take what he's saying at face value and never question his motives or allegiance.




Where are they hiding the bodies?  Because the statistics he's pointing at suggest that he's 100% correct.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman]
    #23746268 - 10/17/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They dont even release stats on the number of people they killed. The ones they do can be whatever what they feel like making up at that moment in time. Im not saying he has a reason to cover for the judicial force of the government, but thats kind of his job.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 4
    #23746269 - 10/17/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You yourself called him corrupt, and now you are using statistics to back up his credibility.  Not even going to say any more.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23746285 - 10/17/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You yourself called him corrupt, and now you are using statistics to back up his credibility.  Not even going to say any more.




He didn't create the statistics. BTW, that's Obama's boy. Is Obama's FBI Director hiding dead bodies?


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 4
    #23746305 - 10/17/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You yourself called him corrupt, and now you are using statistics to back up his credibility.  Not even going to say any more.




He didn't create the statistics. BTW, that's Obama's boy. Is Obama's FBI Director hiding dead bodies?




yes
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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman]
    #23746306 - 10/17/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug: since when does the FBI have to hide bodies?  What are you going to do?  Arrest them?


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Ezuma]
    #23746313 - 10/17/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You yourself called him corrupt, and now you are using statistics to back up his credibility.  Not even going to say any more.




He didn't create the statistics. BTW, that's Obama's boy. Is Obama's FBI Director hiding dead bodies?




yes
Obama's no different than any of em, a figurehead for the corporate oligarchy




Obama was ordered to stir the pot since day one, mission accomplished.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 5
    #23746323 - 10/17/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You dont like him because hes black and better then you.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23746334 - 10/17/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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:shrug: since when does the FBI have to hide bodies?  What are you going to do?  Arrest them?




The FBI isn't shooting at civilians, try to keep up with the discussion. :facepalm:

There is no "epidemic" taking place, BLM and people believing otherwise are retarded.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #23746344 - 10/17/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You dont like him because hes black and better then you.




Really, then why did I vote for him in 2008?  He's nothing more than a pawn who takes orders just like every other working stiff.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman]
    #23746351 - 10/17/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I mean it is not anything that far from the norm really.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23746366 - 10/17/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

personally I do disagree with the media's love of the term 'epidemic'. I think there are real race problems in america, and from what I understand problems with cops shooting blacks -and other poor people- at a disproportionate rate. I don't see how this is an epidemic though, as to my understanding this problem has been going on for a while.
Similarly I hate when people talk about a 'rape epidemic' like seriously? Rape is somehow a new thing?

*semantics diversion over*


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23746380 - 10/17/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah well the real problem is that people think race is a thing.  It never has been in the way people make it out to be.  It basically means "group with similar characteristics" but people make it out to be this finite divisive tool.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23746390 - 10/17/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah well the real problem is that people think race is a thing.  It never has been in the way people make it out to be.  It basically means "group with similar characteristics" but people make it out to be this finite divisive tool.




yep, and unfortunately the more we focus on it, the more it IS a problem, and yet we can't not talk about it because some very real problems need addressing.

personally I think its focused on specifically to distract from a core problem which is class, an issue corporations, politicians and the media would all like to ignore. Blacks after all, are essentially visibly poor in many minds, and seemingly in the cultural zeitgeist

address ignorance and poverty and the issue will slowly become a non-issue I think


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23746433 - 10/17/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:mindblown:


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 1
    #23746489 - 10/17/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You yourself called him corrupt, and now you are using statistics to back up his credibility.  Not even going to say any more.




He didn't create the statistics. BTW, that's Obama's boy. Is Obama's FBI Director hiding dead bodies?



He didn't create the statistics because they don't officially exist. The FBI doesn't
Track police shootings.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: koods] * 1
    #23746492 - 10/17/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

These numbers dont even officially exist, and hes telling everyone to settle down? :lolsy:


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23746593 - 10/17/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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These numbers dont even officially exist, and hes telling everyone to settle down? :lolsy:




Some numbers do exist.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/breakdown-us-citizens-killed-cops-2016


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman]
    #23746651 - 10/17/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Where's prisoner#1 when u need him?

You people are walking talking contradictions, when somebody opposes your views you call them conspiracy nutters, yet on the other hand use numbers when they are convenient for your own delusions


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23746736 - 10/17/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Wow the guys who had a file on MLK and probably killed JFK said that :shocked: no way




Way to butcher a legitimate conspiracy. CIA killed Kennedy. And his brother. And his son.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: stzacrack] * 2
    #23746793 - 10/17/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Where's prisoner#1 when u need him?

You people are walking talking contradictions, when somebody opposes your views you call them conspiracy nutters, yet on the other hand use numbers when they are convenient for your own delusions



He's actually the same person as koods.  You'll notice they never post at the same exact time.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23746845 - 10/17/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think there are valid statistics to examine the claims either way.

Given the simplicity in capturing said data, it does make you wonder.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: badchad]
    #23746871 - 10/17/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think there are valid statistics to examine the claims either way.

Given the simplicity in capturing said data, it does make you wonder.




We have police shooting death statistics, I don't think we have wounded and missed shots statistics.

The narrative by Obama and the media is that there's a police shooting people to death epidemic, that is clearly false.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 1
    #23746886 - 10/17/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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We have police shooting death statistics, I don't think we have wounded and missed shots statistics.

The narrative by Obama and the media is that there's a police shooting people to death epidemic, that is clearly false.




If there is a uniform, national database on LEO deaths, I'd love to see it.

From the data you posted, it seems african americans are disproportionately killed by cops.  Whether you call that an "epidemic" is likely a matter of taste.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: badchad] * 1
    #23747019 - 10/17/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's not about the number of shootings it's about the police shrugging their shoulders after it happens


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 1
    #23747024 - 10/17/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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These numbers dont even officially exist, and hes telling everyone to settle down? :lolsy:




Some numbers do exist.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/breakdown-us-citizens-killed-cops-2016




Sure bud, you notice how he says the stats dont imply theres an epidemic but he doesnt make the stats public. I wonder why :flowstone:


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Konyap]
    #23747040 - 10/17/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's not about the number of shootings it's about the police shrugging their shoulders after it happens




If you have a point make it.


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23747045 - 10/17/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
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These numbers dont even officially exist, and hes telling everyone to settle down? :lolsy:




Some numbers do exist.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/breakdown-us-citizens-killed-cops-2016




Sure bud, you notice how he says the stats dont imply theres an epidemic but he doesnt make the stats public. I wonder why :flowstone:




Are you suggesting some sort of conspiracy?  Where are the bodies?


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman]
    #23747050 - 10/17/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Where are the bodies? Dear lord. You arnt that dense are you?


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23747059 - 10/17/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Where are the bodies? Dear lord. You arnt that dense are you?




You're suggesting there's an under reporting of cops shooting and killing citizens, where are these extra dead people you speak of?


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Re: FBI Director: Stats Don't Back Up Claims About Police Shooting "Epidemic" [Re: qman] * 1
    #23747082 - 10/17/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What do you mean under-reported, they dont even post the stats they already have. Everything that is known is meticulously compiled by third partys through necessity, and even that doesnt get all of them. So yes, it is a conspiracy to cover up the severity. Cops and the government are conspiring to act like it isnt a problem, and its working, on some people. Is that such a hard pill to swalllow?


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