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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: my3rdeye]
    #23747886 - 10/18/16 04:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It sounds like he simply tried Polish cuisine.


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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: pineninja]
    #23747895 - 10/18/16 04:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Even if you entertain the idea that someone needed him dead, why would they do it in such a conspicuous manner.:shrug:




Not uncommon in Eastern Europe, remember Alexander Litvinenko?

He was a KGB spy who was poisoned with some type of toxic chemical in a tea, probably something like polonium or thallium or something similar, and died of radiation. All his hair fell out, he was suffering from severe vomiting and diarrhea, and he died in the hospital over the course of days.

What remains a mystery is why or who killed him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko


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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
    #23747915 - 10/18/16 04:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
Speaking to Project Camelot, friend Miles Johnson said: “A person has died here and I don’t think it’s good enough [that] somebody who just took normal medication should end up vomiting, spewing black liquid, whatever it was.


She said: “Max was a very fit man who was in good health and yet he apparently just died suddenly on a sofa.”




if he was so fit and in perfect health then why was he taking 'just a normal medication'?


now wouldnt his enemies be the people that own the UFOs? after all, if he's
exposing them they're probably going to try and kill him for it and I'm sure
some ET/EDBs are going to be upset that he's putting them out there, like a
fucking paparazzi he's just following them around and exposing the truth
about them and their plans. they'd be the one to want him dead


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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
    #23747940 - 10/18/16 05:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's easier to believe there's some grand conspiracy behind his death, and people are willing to go along with it because of his warning to his mother. You probably never would have even heard of him if he had died without that text, that text alone is what has propelled this story to virality. I however, believe the simplest explanation (and the more likely) is that he intended suicide, or that he got into some trouble in ways other than some kind of conspiracy/cover-up. Stuff along the lines of owing the wrong person money or pissing off a drug lord, stuff like that. The latter of which, does not fit the facts as cleanly as planned suicide. I have no evidence or reason to believe he was suicidal, but what better way to achieve the notoriety conspiracy theorists crave, than become the center of a conspiracy themselves?


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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23749016 - 10/18/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Another article just came out about this:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/dead-ufo-expert-was-about-to-expose-elites-using-black-magic/

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He believed the truth was out there.

The UFO expert whose death has sparked out-of-this world conspiracy theories was about to “expose” a cabal of politicians and celebrities practicing black magic, his fiancee claimed.

Max Spiers, a 39-year-old father of two found dead on a couch in Poland over the summer with “black liquid” oozing from his mouth — reminiscent of the “black oil” that alien beings used to inhabit human hosts in the TV series “The X-Files” — spent his final months researching the dark arts.

“He was going to expose black magic. He was going to expose some of the stuff he was working on involving political leaders and celebrities,” his gal pal, 31-year-old Sarah Adams, told Yahoo.

Spiers said she spoke to Adams about his fear of dying numerous times.

“We were used to getting death threats or stuff like that from people, but I think this time it seemed rather real,” she said. “He’d been sent threats saying that him and me were going to die.”

But even in the hours before he died, he was still looking toward a future with Adams.

“I was going to have his child. He had messaged me hours before,” she told Yahoo. “It definitely couldn’t have been anything like suicide or something like that.”

Spiers was in Poland over the summer to give a talk on conspiracy theories and UFOs — something he had become an expert on over the years after claiming to be a survivor of a government “super soldier” program.

Many of his devoted followers have developed their own theories as to what caused his sudden death including some who think it’s connected to the alien virus, Purity, in the “X-Files.”

The disease caused black goo to seep out of humans eyes and mouth.

“If it wasn’t true what he talks about then why would they kill him? Healthy people don’t just get sick and die, they get poisoned,” Craig Hewlett wrote on the site Project Camelot.




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but what better way to achieve the notoriety conspiracy theorists crave, than become the center of a conspiracy themselves?




Do you really think all conspiracy theorists care about is attention? Sure some are probably like that just like everyone.

This guy had a partner and kids though, why the hell would he off himself just to get more attention? He was about to speak at a conference FFS...


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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
    #23749097 - 10/18/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

For the most part, yes. Some may not even be aware of it. I think it would be safer to say "some may actually believe what they're saying and feel they have proof and a genuine need to get the word out" than to say "some may just be seeking attention". From my interactions with people like that, most just seem to want to be elevated above the "sheep" and to appear as if they have all the answers.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23749119 - 10/18/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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For the most part, yes. Some may not even be aware of it. I think it would be safer to say "some may actually believe what they're saying and feel they have proof and a genuine need to get the word out" than to say "some may just be seeking attention".




That goes both ways though, many people write of most conspiracies and theorists and assume they are all dysfunctional nutcases spouting random stuff.

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From my interactions with people like that, most just seem to want to be elevated above the "sheep" and to appear as if they have all the answers.




That is a common trait with people though, and people will seek out any reason to elevate themselves over others. That is hardly unique to conspiracy theorists, in fact I would argue those are the "fake" ones just using it as an excuse to feel better then everyone else. Many others simply care for history and don't want to write off possibilities however unlikely they seem to most.

Real conspiracy theorists are trying to find answers to strange questions :shrug:

I think many people forget how certain conspiracy theories end up being proven true years later then are just forgotten by the majority of people.


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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
    #23749139 - 10/18/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Some are proven true later. People called me stupid for believing in Area 51. It doesn't mean all (or even most) conspiracy theories are later proven true though.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


Edited by Shroomslip (10/18/16 02:34 PM)


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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23749162 - 10/18/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
Some are proven true later. People called me stupid for believing in Area 51. It doesn't mean all (or even most) conspiracy theories are later proven true though.




That is what I mean though, many people tend to write them all off even though plenty have been proven to be true eventually.

So both sides of the extreme exist, people who assume its all BS and people who believe anything.

I like to try and stay in the middle, this story seems suspicious to me but I would never say its true or not until more details emerge, if any even do.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23749169 - 10/18/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I view conspiracies as ideas, those that aren't true could become true, so be careful not to spread so many of them cuz there might just be some psycho with the kind of power to make them happen listening.. :tinfoil:


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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: zZZz]
    #23749184 - 10/18/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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zZZz said:
I view conspiracies as ideas, those that aren't true could become true, so be careful not to spread so many of them cuz there might just be some psycho with the kind of power to make them happen listening.. :tinfoil:




With billions of people do you really think others haven't had the same ideas already?


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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
    #23750330 - 10/18/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

u'd be surprised..

it's like all the art u see, from movies, to music, they all inspire ideas, and not all of em are good.. ideas could be dangerous in the wrong hands.. we see it all time, peeps always trying to mimic the people they see on tv n shit, it's the same application..

it's like the book 1984, kim jong-il got a hold of it and look what happened to north korea.. lots of other governments also copied from it.. thanks alot george orwell, ya blew it!..


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