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UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’
#23745745 - 10/17/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://nypost.com/2016/10/17/ufo-expert-found-dead-vomiting-black-liquid/

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A conspiracy theorist has been found dead in Poland — just days after he texted his mom instructing her to “investigate” should anything happen to him.
Max Spiers, a 39-year-old father of two, was found dead on a sofa in Poland, where he had gone to give a talk about conspiracy theories and UFOs.
He was ruled to have died from natural causes despite no post-mortem examination being carried out on his body.
But his dark investigations into UFOs and government coverups may have made him enemies who wanted him dead, says mother Vanessa Bates, 63.
In a chilling text message to his mom just days before his death, Spiers wrote: “Your boy’s in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate.”
Originally from Canterbury, Spiers was a former classmate of Orlando Bloom.
He lived in the United States for a few years but returned to the UK to stay with his mother, before jetting off to Poland.
Bates said: “He was making a name for himself in the world of conspiracy theorists and had been invited to speak at a conference in Poland in July.”
“He was staying with a woman who he had not known for long and she told me how she found him dead on the sofa.”
“But I think Max had been digging in some dark places and I fear that somebody wanted him dead.”
Spiers’ pals have claimed that he “vomited a black liquid” when he died in a Warsaw apartment.
Speaking to Project Camelot, friend Miles Johnson said: “A person has died here and I don’t think it’s good enough [that] somebody who just took normal medication should end up vomiting, spewing black liquid, whatever it was.
“And then shortly after that, whatever length of time it was, died.”
Max made a career out of investigating UFO sightings and alleged coverups.
More recently, he was said to be probing into the lives of well-known figures in politics, business and entertainment.
His unexplained death, and its subsequent treatment by the authorities, has left many online followers convinced he was killed by government agents.
Conspiracy theorists have long been convinced that UFO chasers who get too close to the truth are “bumped off” by the secret services or so-called men in black.
On one website, Project Camelot, a blogger wrote: “The entire circumstances are suspicious and I urge everyone to encourage the release of details about what really happened and call for an autopsy.”
Another, Craig Hewlett, added: “If it wasn’t true what he talks about then why would they kill him? Healthy people don’t just get sick and die, they get poisoned.”
Bates, an English teacher, also buys into the theories.
She said: “Max was a very fit man who was in good health and yet he apparently just died suddenly on a sofa.”
“All I have is a death certificate from the Polish authorities that it was from natural causes, but no post-mortem was done so how can they tell that? They are also refusing to release any paperwork about it to me because, absurdly, I don’t have his written permission.”
Spiers was buried in a Canterbury cemetery after his mother arranged to have his body flown home a week after his death.
A post-mortem examination was carried out by a pathologist in east Kent, but Bates says that more than two months later she still does not know the result, or whether there will be an investigation.
She added: “Apparently, he had not suffered any obvious physical injuries but he could have been slowly poisoned, which is why the results of toxicology tests from his post-mortem are so important.”
“He has a brother, Josh, and sister, Becky, who are both devastated, as are his two boys. We all want answers to this and I will continue to fight to get to the truth.”
The North East Kent coroner’s office would only confirm the death was at the “very early” stages of their investigation.

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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420] 3
#23745748 - 10/17/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vomiting blood is a common symptom that may indicate bleeding in the upper GI tract (UGIB). Vomit that resembles coffee grounds usually means that blood has been oxidized by acid in the stomach so that the iron in the blood turns black, and is a sign that bleeding is either in a small quantity or has stopped.
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: PatrickKn]
#23745758 - 10/17/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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In a chilling text message to his mom just days before his death, Spiers wrote: “Your boy’s in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate.”
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Bates, an English teacher, also buys into the theories.
She said: “Max was a very fit man who was in good health and yet he apparently just died suddenly on a sofa.”
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“All I have is a death certificate from the Polish authorities that it was from natural causes, but no post-mortem was done so how can they tell that? They are also refusing to release any paperwork about it to me because, absurdly, I don’t have his written permission.”
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A post-mortem examination was carried out by a pathologist in east Kent, but Bates says that more than two months later she still does not know the result, or whether there will be an investigation.
She added: “Apparently, he had not suffered any obvious physical injuries but he could have been slowly poisoned, which is why the results of toxicology tests from his post-mortem are so important.”
Why has his mother not seen his toxicology report then? Also why would he warn his mother days before dying to investigate if anything happens to him?...
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23745765 - 10/17/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't read anything but the title, and offered a logical reason for black liquid coming out of his gut.
What caused the internal bleeding is not something I'd speculate on. Could be poison for all I know. Too many Oreos perhaps.
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: PatrickKn]
#23745772 - 10/17/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: I didn't read anything but the title, and offered a logical reason for black liquid coming out of his gut.
What caused the internal bleeding is not something I'd speculate on. Could be poison for all I know. Too many Oreos perhaps.
What about all the other factors though? Why would he warn his mother unless he suspected something would happen to him?
And if he really died from natural causes why has his mother not seen his toxicology report or anything else?
I am not saying it was foul play or not but this certainly seems suspicious...
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23745781 - 10/17/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Probs the reptilians trying to divert people's attention away from the elections
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: zZZz]
#23745785 - 10/17/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: Probs the reptilians trying to divert people's attention away from the elections
I wish the article said what people he had been looking into prior to his death...
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More recently, he was said to be probing into the lives of well-known figures in politics, business and entertainment.
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23745872 - 10/17/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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RE-sources or its Fake. I knew a guy in Poland once.
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: littleton]
#23745895 - 10/17/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Besides, Nobody was deemed worthy and granted a suit to go assassinate UFO Conspiracy theorists. Sounds bogey to me.
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: littleton]
#23745924 - 10/17/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: PatrickKn] 2
#23745935 - 10/17/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: I didn't read anything but the title, and offered a logical reason for black liquid coming out of his gut.
What caused the internal bleeding is not something I'd speculate on. Could be poison for all I know. Too many Oreos perhaps.
im not saying it was aliens but
it was aliens
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23745983 - 10/17/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said:
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littleton said: RE-sources or its Fake. I knew a guy in Poland once.
You asking me to post a second source to verify it?
http://wgntv.com/2016/10/17/ufo-expert-found-vomiting-black-liquid-sent-warning-to-mom-before-his-death/
http://fox4kc.com/2016/10/17/ufo-expert-found-vomiting-black-liquid-sent-warning-to-mom-before-his-death/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ufo-hunter-found-dead-mysterious-9060045
Maybe I am, Maybe Im not. Anyhow, Id rather not be another "koon" going all buck crazy over some conspiracy. Dont get over your head about it. All im saying is this looks too good.
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23746021 - 10/17/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's just baffling. There's no way to tell what happened really, but I'll admit that it's suspicious. As far as what that suspicion entails me to do about it, well it's mainly just to realize that there's a lot going on which I do not understand, and that there are some people with whom I do not want to get involved.
UFO's are fantastically interesting, but until there is conclusive evidence of contact between sentient lifeforms, we really do not know what they're all about. What I can say is that seeing a UFO is a jarring and exciting experience.
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23746170 - 10/17/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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littleton said: Maybe I am, Maybe Im not. Anyhow, Id rather not be another "koon" going all buck crazy over some conspiracy. Dont get over your head about it. All im saying is this looks too good.
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musiclover420 said: I am not saying it was foul play or not but this certainly seems suspicious...
All I have said is this is suspicious I don't think anyone is going "buck crazy" or "getting over their head about it" here...
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23746192 - 10/17/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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why bother to assassinate a conspiracy theorist, if anything they do the government more good than harm by making dissenters look ridiculous and discrediting counter-culture generally
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23746207 - 10/17/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't care that he's dead, I'd still bang.
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: Ezuma]
#23746294 - 10/17/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: why bother to assassinate a conspiracy theorist, if anything they do the government more good than harm by making dissenters look ridiculous and discrediting counter-culture generally
Well that depends, wackjob conspiracy nuts do more harm then good to the stories they spread. This guy was going to poland to talk at a conference though which leads me to believe he was probably logical and actually spreading legitimate theories some people might not want talked about So it really depends on who we are talking about.
This guy was in Poland to speak at a conference so he clearly isn't your average tinfoil hat youtube video blogger.
Anyways most people aren't going to believe he was murdered to keep him silent Even if there is plenty of evidence for it (not saying there is)
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23746590 - 10/17/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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deliverance said: I don't know about the OP but my trip last night just helped to reaffirm my already relatively strong position on 'aliens' being actively involved in the affairs of earth. And sadly last night eroded much of my positive feelings towards them, or at the very least a particular group of them and especially the particular group of them that I 'felt' last night... 


Those aliens are more like entities, they're 4th dimensional, they're like spirits. Anyway the peeps who run the governments n shit, like the peeps with the real power, the ones u never see, they are always contacting them and communicating with them through means of witchcraft and what not, they're satanist. The Aztecs used to communicate with them, as well as the Egyptians, and pretty much most civilized colonies did the same. They didn't know these entities were evil tho cuz they didn't really know God back then.. They knew god(s) with an S, but not the God alone..
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: musiclover420]
#23746674 - 10/17/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can anybody get in touch with special agent Mulder?
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Re: UFO expert found dead after ‘vomiting black liquid’ [Re: zZZz]
#23746715 - 10/17/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So why do you christians always deny the possibility of 3rd dimensional ET's? Everything's the fucking devil with you people. You realize its a bastardized religions that's been edited so much from it's original mean to be used as a control structure right? It borrows countless stories from other much much much older spiritual practices.
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