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bodhisatta 
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: South_Paw]
#24138186 - 03/05/17 09:35 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's not the definition we use for mycology. In dairy they do partial sterilization with their pasteurising
In mycology we do 140-160F core temp for 1-2 hours.
Partial sterilization is 170F for 10m in most cases.
Dairy and juice use UHT "pasteurizing" which is 250-275F for a couple seconds or so. That's partial sterilization.
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: South_Paw]
#24138197 - 03/05/17 09:40 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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South_Paw said: FYI pasteurization is a form of sterilization...
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: PussyFart]
#24138201 - 03/05/17 09:42 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe its just how I think, but I will always consider pasteurization to be under the umbrella as "sterilization." But of course things have different meanings in different fields.
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: South_Paw]
#24138224 - 03/05/17 09:59 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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South_Paw said: Maybe its just how I think, but I will always consider pasteurization to be under the umbrella as "sterilization." But of course things have different meanings in different fields.
Not really look up pasteurization units (PUs)
Uht is partially sterilized with shelf life approaching a year in dairy
Htst is still just pasteurization giving a shelf life of a couple weeks to a month
There's all different kinds of pasteurization. Only uht is partial sterilization
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24138258 - 03/05/17 10:15 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sterilization aims to kill everything, pasteurization does not. But the general goal is each is very similar, no? So if I were to refer to these processes in a general sense, please tell me, what word should I use????????
EDIT: Ill just say "heat processing" from now on
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: South_Paw]
#24138293 - 03/05/17 10:30 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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How about sterilization and pasteurization?
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: South_Paw]
#24138625 - 03/05/17 12:33 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Something is not 50% sterilized. It is either sterilized or it is not.
You are trolling at this point.
Quit editing your posts after you've been corrected by someone. You're trying to make yourself look better, and failing.
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: South_Paw]
#24138660 - 03/05/17 12:45 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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South_Paw said: Sterilization aims to kill everything, pasteurization does not.
Exactly!
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: Mycolorado]
#24138674 - 03/05/17 12:53 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.revoxsterilization.com/article/sterility-assurance-level-sal-vs-log-reduction-understanding-difference
sanitation is a 99.9-99.99 reduction (3-4 log reduction)
disinfection is a 99.99-99.999 reduction (4-5 log reduction)
sterilization is a 6 log reduction at least 99.9999 once you get to 0 theoretical organisms. so it's not just 6 log reduction it's 6 logs past 0 so you have a SAL of 10-6. six logs past 0 so there's a 1 in a million chance of a survivor. since sterilization has to be expressed as a probability
sanitation and disinfection can be partial sterilization if the CFU load is low to start with. like cleaning a stainless pipe with caustic, then rinsing with water. the pipe is now surgically clean, free of any soil or debris, then either 170F water is ran through the pipe or a sanitizer is ran through the pipe. neither of which is sterilization may still be considered partial sterilization in this instance for this purpose.
we sterilize grain jars, that's not going to correlate over to anything the beverage industry does.
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24138697 - 03/05/17 01:07 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread is super  ive read all the back and forth bullshit none providing of evidence, stupid claims which are then edited once been corrected, but op doesnt realise it tells us hes edited his post after the fact. My brain feels like its taken on big bubba in the shower room of San Quentin and violently analy lost.
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24138702 - 03/05/17 01:09 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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yea it should have died ages ago, op is clearly wants to be fringe, on the fringe of possible routine success that is.
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Re: Do I need really need a PC? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24138707 - 03/05/17 01:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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