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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23746419 - 10/17/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

as for dunk and roll,  has anyone noticed  diffirenice with putting verm on top and bottom compared to just top or none at all?
also, to fridge or not to fridge dunk? I've seen it both ways, but am curious about personal experience ^-^


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23746429 - 10/17/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Fridge is not needed at all, that's outdated info. As for the roll, what do you understand by "roll"? you take a cake, and roll it in vermiculite until it's covered in it (right after the dunk) and then leave it in the FC and give a good soak with a hand sprayer, after that you keep misting normally when things are looking dry.


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Re: First attempt! [Re: Josex]
    #23746482 - 10/17/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yea I've seen teks talking about after the roll, put verm on the top and the bottom as well, or not at all amd just roll it to cover all the sides, ...er surfaces.


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23746493 - 10/17/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

After the week of consolidation once 100% colonization is achieved, take the cakes out of the jars, scrape off the dry verm layer, dunk and roll. That's the way everybody does it so I have no clue what you're referring to. Once it's time to fruit the cakes leave them on top of jar rings or scraps of tin foil to separate the cake from the perlite. That's all there's to it, very simple.


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Re: First attempt! [Re: Josex]
    #23746509 - 10/17/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

double end casing is what I've been reading about.
was just wondering if anyone's actually seen a positive effect. thanks man! you've answered alot of questions I've had haha. ^-^


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23747081 - 10/17/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Dude yeah. Put a bit of verm on top of your cakes is good. Its best to get as much verm as you possibly can on the surface of your cakes. My cakes usually have a heap of verm sitting on top of them after my "roll" anyway.

The verm I have comes in a giant bag. What I do is after my dunk I dig a little hole in the bag of verm to plop my cake into. Then I bury my cake in the verm hole and gently press the verm onto the cake. Pull it out gently making sure to leave as much as you can on the cake.

You know you did a good job when you cant even see the cake under the layer of verm.
Then I place in the sgfc for 6-8 hours to let the verm really stick (you can leave it longer if you like)

Be easy with your mister. Mist your cakes directly but not so close that the water shoots your verm layer off. The more water the verm sucks up the less likely it is to fall off your cakes.

Mist the fuck outta them till they glisten in the sun. You'll see beads of water in the verm layer. When your verm layer begins to dry out mist like that again.
Remember evaporation is a pinning trigger but you dont want dry cakes either.

This is where youll find out how often you need to mist your cakes. Depending on the humidity of your fruiting chamber you may need to mist more often or less often. But your misting schedual will be different than anyone elses so to say you mist 3 times a day really means nothing. Keep that in mind.

I have given you way more information than I originally intended lol just getting carried away but there is so much crap advice out there. Make sure when youre using the search engine that you limit the posts to 2 or 3 years from now.
Also the best way to get good current information is to participate in the forums. Read and ask questions in the threads on the front page.

In the meantime keep this thread updated with this grow :thumbup: lookin promising so far.
I would suggest a slightly larger FC though :2cents:


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Re: First attempt! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23751572 - 10/19/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

alright, it's been two days, and they are still coming along beautifully, however I'm starting to see water droplets on the sides of them. probably a dumb question, but are they supposed to be there?
here's the bathroom one ( my favorite so far)


next is the 3 that were in the box wrapped towel, now just sitting, soaking up the ambient sunlight.


the one that only has 1 point nocd


and the one I thought was taking it's time, which clearly it's not haha

after they are fully colonized, and I let them sit a week, they should be thick white correct?


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23752157 - 10/19/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah beads of water is normal:thumbup:

Actually during the consolidation week the myc that you see probably won't change its look much. Unless it starts pinning


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Re: First attempt! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23752167 - 10/19/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ah ok right on. all the dunk and roll pix look like they are solid white cakes haha


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Re: First attempt! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23752176 - 10/19/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah beads of water is normal:thumbup:

Actually during the consolidation week the myc that you see probably won't change its look much. Unless it starts pinning




:whathesaid:

The most you will see is maybe a slight shrinking off the walls after the cake begins to consolidate. Might not even see that...

Do you have your SGFC built yet?

The chamber is where 90% of the mistakes happen that cause failed grows.

If you have it built already you should post a picture! If your chamber is built to spec and is aye-okay you are definitely on the road to some fruits!

Those BRF jars look surprisingly healthy! Good job!


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Re: First attempt! [Re: morty422]
    #23752200 - 10/19/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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morty422 said:
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ComebackKid said:
Yeah beads of water is normal:thumbup:

Actually during the consolidation week the myc that you see probably won't change its look much. Unless it starts pinning




:whathesaid:

The most you will see is maybe a slight shrinking off the walls after the cake begins to consolidate. Might not even see that...

Do you have your SGFC built yet?

The chamber is where 90% of the mistakes happen that cause failed grows.

If you have it built already you should post a picture! If your chamber is built to spec and is aye-okay you are definitely on the road to some fruits!

Those BRF jars look surprisingly healthy! Good job!





I do have it built already, it's on the first page, but here it is anyways haha


my only concern is it's a little shallow.
5 1/2 inches tall and 11 inches long
I think I might go out and buy a bigger box just to be on the safe side


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23752235 - 10/19/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My apologies - I confused your thread with another and missed it.

(I've been making a lot of rookie mistakes lately...I gotta step up my shroomery game.. :rofl:)
All the comments are totally correct. Blackout's especially. I've done some seriously shallow tubs when I started off and they simply bent at the top just like the pics that were posted.

Looks like the only thing you have to do is wait. Give them a week to consolidate after you hit 100% and you'll be golden buddy! Remember to try and use the finest verm you can in your roll.

Comebackkid set you up with some solid advice up there.

Let's see some mushrooms!

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Re: First attempt! [Re: morty422]
    #23752285 - 10/19/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'll keep this post updated as they grow up.(haha)
I'm stocked that everyone says they seem to be doing really well! thanks everyone for your help / 2 cents, and check back from time to time to see progress! ^-^


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Re: First attempt! [Re: morty422]
    #23752295 - 10/19/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh trust me that myc is plenty white in there. The glass doesn't do it justice.

Make sure you wear some sunglasses when you birth those! :cool:


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23752297 - 10/19/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

alright, another question, since the chamber is shallow, should I attempt to cut cakes in half to shorten them?
or just pay close attention to the humidity. I figure 3-4+ inches of perlite, makes for only 1 inch of free space, b3fore cakes are sitting on the perlite. oh man, the more I think about it now, the more I'm starting to get worried haha


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23752310 - 10/19/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

bleh, cut out my sentences... guess that's what the review is for haha. I meant should I attempt to cut cakes in half or just use less perlite and keep an eye on the humidity?


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23752315 - 10/19/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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my only concern is it's a little shallow.
5 1/2 inches tall and 11 inches long
I think I might go out and buy a bigger box just to be on the safe side




Don't waste your time and money on building another FC. The chamber you got is going to do great as it is.

Mind you, there isn't even need for a chamber as long as you understand what the organism needs. Theoretically you could fruit a cake in open air, as long as you're willing to be a slave to it and mist everytime it gets dry. We build chambers to ensure that the organism gets enough FAE while at the same time maintaining a nice humid environment so that the cakes don't dry out so quickly and this frees us from having to mist very often...

I digress, that chamber you got is badass and it's gunna do great
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alright, another question, since the chamber is shallow, should I attempt to cut cakes in half to shorten them?
or just pay close attention to the humidity. I figure 3-4+ inches of perlite, makes for only 1 inch of free space, b3fore cakes are sitting on the perlite. oh man, the more I think about it now, the more I'm starting to get worried haha




No man, there's plenty of space in there, I'd be surprised if the shrooms ever touched the lid. But it would not be a problem if they did, they'd just grow in another direction other than upwards. Don't over think this too much.


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Re: First attempt! [Re: SevrynSyn]
    #23752330 - 10/19/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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SevrynSyn said:
alright, another question, since the chamber is shallow, should I attempt to cut cakes in half to shorten them?
or just pay close attention to the humidity. I figure 3-4+ inches of perlite, makes for only 1 inch of free space, b3fore cakes are sitting on the perlite. oh man, the more I think about it now, the more I'm starting to get worried haha





Keep them moistened properly - Don't over-mist... Fan the chamber lightly after you mist to allow non-humid air to enter and more water to evaporate. The surface humidity 1/2" off the cakes is what is important - not chamber humidity.

Misting properly and as needed will keep this micro-climate around the cakes at 90% + humidity.

Chamber can be at room temperature or even a bit colder. Cold is better than hot. Hot = Contaminants.

Make sure you have good air ventilation all around your chamber and your FAE will be optimal.
Don't put a fan on the thing, just normal room circulation is fine.

I don't see any issues with your chamber... looks all good to me.

No need to slice your cakes-thats just another thing they will have to 'live-through'...
Hope that helps!
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Re: First attempt! [Re: Josex]
    #23752339 - 10/19/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just remember to put small pieces of tinfoil under you cakes. Don't put them directly on the perlite.


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Re: First attempt! [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23752345 - 10/19/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Just remember to put small pieces of tinfoil under you cakes. Don't put them directly on the perlite.




Hah! :whathesaid:

Strange things happen when mycelium gets into perlite... hehe


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