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vinsue
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Drug testing politicians?
#23745209 - 10/17/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Think random testing for politicians a good idea?
Also, http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/donald-trump-challenges-hillary-clinton-drug-test-161016044510606.html
"US Republican presidential candidate accuses his Democratic rival of being "pumped up" on drugs during debate..."
 
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: vinsue]
#23745215 - 10/17/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was drug tested for a minimum wage grocery store job. Yes I believe that the two major candidates running for the most powerful position in the world should be drug tested, especially before a debate.
It's funny that nearly every American is drug tested for low level jobs but as soon as Trump suggests that the elite be drug tested, they flip the fuck out and say it's a ridiculous suggestion. The elite think they're above us all and it makes me sick.
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: Webster10]
#23745225 - 10/17/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think people running for the office should be drug tested. I don't think judges and legislators should be either. Anyone whom works in the executive branch, from the president and secretary of state, to the FBI officer and Army soldier should be drug tested as a rule though.
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: vinsue]
#23745227 - 10/17/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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the problem isn't what they're on; it's who they're really working for (see also: not the american people at large).
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: vinsue] 1
#23745307 - 10/17/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, I think that would be a really bad idea.Think about all those people who just never get high. Now think about all of those people actually running things
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23746391 - 10/17/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: I don't think people running for the office should be drug tested. I don't think judges and legislators should be either. Anyone whom works in the executive branch, from the president and secretary of state, to the FBI officer and Army soldier should be drug tested as a rule though.
Why should the people running for president not get drug tested, but the president get tested?
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: Sheekle]
#23746392 - 10/17/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If the president and FBI agents can't smoke weed then they DEFINITELY shouldn't be able to drink alcohol either
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: Sheekle]
#23746393 - 10/17/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because the people running for president are not enforcers of the law.
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: vinsue]
#23746397 - 10/17/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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no I do't believe in drug testing though
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vinsue
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: Sheekle]
#23746409 - 10/17/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: If the president and FBI agents can't smoke weed then they DEFINITELY shouldn't be able to drink alcohol either
There's no alcoholics in government/public service jobs.  Cops don't abuse steroids either. 
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: Sheekle] 1
#23746425 - 10/17/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: If the president and FBI agents can't smoke weed then they DEFINITELY shouldn't be able to drink alcohol either
It's not a matter of which is better or worse for you, or in which is better or worse for judgement. People who enforce the law, or support departments that do should be held to the same standard they enforce against. It's really that simple. A pot smoking cop still (is required to) arrest people for smoking weed.
A marijuana smoking legislator might change the law regarding marijuana though, and a judge who smokes may be more lenient on fellow smokers and even take a roll of changing the way laws are interpreted. But a legal enforcer should be held to the same standard as everyone they are pushing the law on. This is more effective in drug legalization efforts as well. It entices people such as cops and soldiers to want legalization more as their careers depend on not doing those things recreationally.
It's largely already like this in most executive departments though. I seriously doubt the President or Secretary of State gets drug tested though. It's not likely they indulge anyway, but should still be held to the standard of those they manage all the way to the bottom of the chain.
Edited by PatrickKn (10/17/16 05:07 PM)
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#23746443 - 10/17/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah no doubt
I don't think presidents should be allowed to drink in all honesty though, regardless of laws. Alcohol makes people fucking retarded
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23746447 - 10/17/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If they're going to drug test the guy flipping burgers, then they should also drug test cops, but they say it's unconstitutional. 
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pittsburgh-police-afraid-drug-tested/
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Re: Drug testing politicians? [Re: Sheekle]
#23746490 - 10/17/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What if they're more creative/strategic while high?
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#23746893 - 10/17/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone holding a political office should be required to plug MXE and rail MDMA
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In Florida they wanted to drug test all people on welfare. Until someone added that those in the state Senate and house get tested also .
Yes test everyone in government bet shit would get legalize quick or allow for scripts of cocoa powder .
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