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mushhiehunter
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DIY alcohol burner
#23744585 - 10/17/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey guys!
So alcohol burners are very expensive to buy where I live so I came up with an idea how to build one myself for those who don't want to spend 20 bucks on one (go and buy one if it's cheap though)
Things needed: 1 Al can 1 old kitchen wash cloth - has to be cotton (for the wick) RTV silicone (no need for high-temp though) scisors denaturated alcohol 1/4 in drill bit
Build: 1. Cut the can about 10cm/4in from the bottom 2. drill a 1/4inch hole in the bottom of the can 3. use the rest of the can to get a "sheet" of Al - straighten it up 4. place the cut can hole facing up and use a generous amount of silicone to secure it on the sheet of Al we made earlier 5. wait for the silicone to set 6. cut a strip of the wash cloth about 20cm/10in long 7. pour alcohol into the can through the hole we made earlier - fill it up 3/4 8. insert the wick, wait for it to suck up the alcohol and light it - god to go
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That looks sketchy dude. Use a baby food jar instead
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quick and neat. I like.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: amidogen]
#23744834 - 10/17/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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These work great obviously but aluminum would make me feel very unsafe. Glass is best mate
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OBVIOUSLY there are better alternatives and obviously this probably isn't what you want to use in cultivation however, this is still a really cool little kit here.
Thanks for sharing.
Besides if I had the tools around to make an alcohol lantern out of glass, I'd just buy a damn torch.....
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23744878 - 10/17/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh and as far as tools needed for a glass lamp? Would be a drill bit
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You say that as if everyone has a drill and glass drillbit...
What if I wanted to make this while I was stranded in my car? As I said, this DOES NOT belong in cultivation, because in cultivation you want to use the best you can get your hands on/afford.
You don't have to talk to me like I don't understand how simple it is to drill a hole in a mason jar.
But really, think of other perspectives.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23744931 - 10/17/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol glass drill bit.
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This just makes my point even more concrete, not everyone has the knowledge and tools. IN FACT some people here aren't even out of college.. which means they may not even know how to drive a car..
The fact that that's funny to you tells me this conversation is over. Have a good one friend.
I still think this is an awesome idea. The guy even said "go and buy one if it's cheap"
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23744971 - 10/17/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dafuq are you even talking about? A glass drill bit? I don't see anyone suggesting you needed one.. a regular drill bit would be fine. Just don't push excessively hard, and be patient. A regular drill bit is fuckin boss!
Some people will fill the glass container with water to keep the heat low as well, but just going about it slow should help with that too.
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I don't know what I'm talking about because I never learned about tools- I just bought a set and use what I use.
My point, is that this is a really neat survival DIY, that DOES NOT belong in the cultivation thread. I simply don't see why that's such a big deal for me to believe.
To each their own I suppose. the "lol glass drillbit" though. Like "hahah illiteracy is HILARIOUS"
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23744985 - 10/17/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can also make an alcohol stove with aluminum cans. Fuckin cool AF.
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I don't get why are you scared of the aluminum? it transfers the heat very well, true, but there is the alcohol in the can to cool it down and the silicone is resistant to alcohol, so as long as it doesn't leak, it's very safe actually..
Now glass in comparison is a bitch, it cracks with sudden temperature change. (unless you have special high temp glass
Edited by mushhiehunter (10/17/16 09:52 AM)
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: ballsalsa]
#23745023 - 10/17/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trolls trolls everywhere.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: amidogen]
#23745046 - 10/17/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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One bad move and your not gonna have an easy time putting out alcohol burning your carpet and house down. The flame is almost invisible.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: amidogen]
#23745059 - 10/17/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Firstly, no I'm actually in tons of pain today thanks for asking.
Allow me to quote myself "this doesn't belong in cultivation." "This would be a cool survival DIY"
Amidogen I feel like you think I'm coming from a place of anger when in reality I'm just trying my best to communicate that this is a cool idea in non cultivation circumstances.
HOWEVER I did find a need to laugh at Jacob's idea of "funny" when he said "lol glass drilbit" Pardon me for not knowing the proper term.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23745075 - 10/17/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Terpfreak said: Firstly, no I'm actually in tons of pain today thanks for asking.
Allow me to quote myself "this doesn't belong in cultivation." "This would be a cool survival DIY"
Amidogen I feel like you think I'm coming from a place of anger when in reality I'm just trying my best to communicate that this is a cool idea in non cultivation circumstances.
HOWEVER I did find a need to laugh at Jacob's idea of "funny" when he said "lol glass drilbit" Pardon me for not knowing the proper term.
he was just saying that you don't need a diamond tipped bit to drill the lid of a baby food jar. hell, you could punch a hole with a nail.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23745082 - 10/17/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: ballsalsa]
#23745089 - 10/17/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wasn't talking about a baby food jar I was talking about literally drilling through glass.
And sorry to hear about that. Legalization is already here where I am and you still can't smoke at high level jobs WITH a medical card.
Trash laws. No one cares about the smokers but the people making money off the taxes :/
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23745130 - 10/17/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Terpfreak said: This just makes my point even more concrete, not everyone has the knowledge and tools. IN FACT some people here aren't even out of college.. which means they may not even know how to drive a car..
The fact that that's funny to you tells me this conversation is over. Have a good one friend.
I still think this is an awesome idea. The guy even said "go and buy one if it's cheap"
Okay okay I'm done I'm done
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JacobStorm said: These work great obviously but aluminum would make me feel very unsafe. Glass is best mate
 Like mine.
But overall, alcohol lamps suck big time because of how long it takes to heat your tools red hot. My next buy is going to be a butane or propane torch FTW.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23745255 - 10/17/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I gave up my torch for the Lamp. I love it.
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-ashes joint on your opinion-
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I bought a 2 pack of cans for home made candles from hobby lobby. For the wick, I used "cotton bacon" brand vape cotton. I pour some alcohol on top to wet the wick, dump the extra into the inside of the can, and add the alcohol that I will need to get the current job done. Cost $5 and works like a charm.

Make the hole small, take a good bit of cotton, roll it in your hands to turn it into a wick, and you'll have to pull it through the smaller hole. Don't allow any gaps between your cotton and hole. Don't want that flame sucking down into the can with all the alcohol. Whatever size hole you end up making, make sure you have enough cotton to the point that you have to stuff and pull it through, but not to the point that it chokes off the cotton so it can't absorb up to the top. Also, while I'm pouring it into bottom, I make sure to pour a stream of alcohol over the bottom part of the wick so I know for sure there wont be any dry spots resulting in having a burnt wick. This same wick has been in for months. I also used plenty of wick in the bottom. Doing so will allow you to simply pull out more wick from the stop so you never have to reload cotton. Hope that makes sense lol.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23745290 - 10/17/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23745301 - 10/17/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Greg]
#23745306 - 10/17/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23745308 - 10/17/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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By the way, I've heard people say that alcohol lamps are actually better if you only wanna do cakes, because a torch can destroy a syringe real easy if you are not careful (I've seen lots of cases here where people messed up their syringes). But for agar work an alcohol lamp can be a real PITA.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23745318 - 10/17/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Using a torch for a razor for agar is great, I could definitely see the benefits of a little alcohol lamp for syringes.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23745327 - 10/17/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been using a wickless alcohol lamp without issue for 300+ plates of agar.
I may get a torch eventually because it takes a while to get the blade red hot.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Greg]
#23745342 - 10/17/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do torches create enough of an air disruption to bring in air from outside the SAB?
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#23745345 - 10/17/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What? No flames ever in the box if that's what you're asking.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23745355 - 10/17/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Always flame sterilize outside the SAB or you're just asking for issues.
I want to try one of these things eventually, even though it's completely impractical for my purposes lol: https://www.google.com/search?q=Bacti-Cinerator#q=Bacti-Cinerator&tbm=shop
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Greg]
#23745357 - 10/17/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ugh that thing sucks
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Hey guys relax She was not saying anything about flame-sterilizing inside the SAB, what she said is literally what she said. Of course a torch creates stronger air currents than an alcohol lamp, but everybody uses torches here without issue, just position the torch where it cannot disturb the air around the SAB so much.
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I haven't even used an SAB yet but, when I used my torch in the bathroom (where I originally did all the ms inoculation) I noticed it was definitely moving air around , that's not good right?
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23745387 - 10/17/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Terpfreak said: I haven't even used an SAB yet but, when I used my torch in the bathroom (where I originally did all the ms inoculation) I noticed it was definitely moving air around , that's not good right?
Well, people have got away with open air inoculations in the past, but that's usually done with cakes. A SAB is cheap and easy to build, get one.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23745391 - 10/17/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have one one actually, thanks. Just made it yesterday. Starting agar.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
#23745865 - 10/17/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use a butane torch in the box with no issues.
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We need a :showmeyourplates: emote
You are needlessly moving air tho :/
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I don't often get contams on my plates if that's what you're getting at. Here are some recent ones:
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And why do you use the torch inside the SAB? I'm curious. Surely you concede that you're taking an unnecessary risk, don't you?
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23746072 - 10/17/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't see it being anymore of an issue then moving your arms around in the SAB, or swirling your LC around before every inoc.
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just_curious said: I don't see it being anymore of an issue then moving your arms around in the SAB, or swirling your LC around before every inoc.
Do the experiment yourself. Grab some incense sticks, light em up in the sab till there is a lot of smoke and move your arms as you would when doing sterile technique. Observe the movement of the air when you do this and then compare it to the turbulance it creates when you use a torch inside.
I haven't done this myself, but I'm pretty sure the hands will only cause minor turbulance around a small area near your skin, whereas the torch would move all the air in the SAB like clothes in a washing machine.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: amidogen]
#23746120 - 10/17/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It could be a small torch lighter. Same flame, more mobile. I don't use a torch, or put my flame inside if the SAB, but I don't see it making a significant difference in air disturbance compared to what you are already causing when you work.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: amidogen]
#23746121 - 10/17/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's just never been an issue. Period.
Yep, it's a small butane lighter.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
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just_curious said: I don't see it being anymore of an issue then moving your arms around in the SAB, or swirling your LC around before every inoc.
Do the experiment yourself. Grab some incense sticks, light em up in the sab till there is a lot of smoke and move your arms as you would when doing sterile technique. Observ the movement of the air and then compare it to the turbulance it creates when you use a torch inside.
I haven't done it, but I'm pretty sure the hands will only cause minor turbulance around a small area near your skin, whereas the torch would move all the air in the SAB like clothes in a washing machine.
IDK man, not trying to argue. I just don't see it being a huge concern.
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We are not arguing, we're discussing. The whole point of a SAB if still air, that's what'll keep contams at bay. It would only make sense not to stir the air around if you can help it.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Terpfreak]
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23746190 - 10/17/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Y'all need to get it together
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: azur]
#23746200 - 10/17/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: Y'all need to get it together

Wow what cracker jack box do that come from
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I got lucky. Girlfriend got it for me for Christmas last year
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23746234 - 10/17/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Josex said: We are not arguing, we're discussing. The whole point of a SAB if still air, that's what'll keep contams at bay. It would only make sense not to stir the air around if you can help it.

@myco a lot of those plates look off to me, lumpy and disorganized. Some are pinning before hitting the end of the plate.. that's like all symptoms of this thread.
I still don't see why you're needlessly moving the air in the box. Once your tool is red hot, nothing will land on it anyways. I forgot what the scientific name of it is, but when it's too hot, nothing will hit it.
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Mad Season said: Once your tool is red hot, nothing will land on it anyways. I forgot what the scientific name of it is, but when it's too hot, nothing will hit it.
It's called "thermo shove-off"... Seriously, first time I read this, interesting.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23746273 - 10/17/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd hit it
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: azur]
#23746278 - 10/17/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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@myco a lot of those plates look off to me, lumpy and disorganized. Some are pinning before hitting the end of the plate.. that's like all symptoms of this thread.
Uh, no. The plates are clean. That maz strain fruits like crazy.
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: azur]
#23746289 - 10/17/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: I'd hit it 
Yeah, like... on a bet? Or do you derive some kind of masochistic pleasure from it?
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Re: DIY alcohol burner [Re: Josex]
#23746298 - 10/17/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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@myco a lot of those plates look off to me, lumpy and disorganized. Some are pinning before hitting the end of the plate.. that's like all symptoms of this thread.
Uh, no. The plates are clean. That maz strain fruits like crazy.
The mycelium doesn't lie it's definitely not looking like something I want happening on my plates.. Also shit almost always fruits in the presence of contaminations, and bacterial grows have shown to be epic af. Whatever tho I'm not interested in another hybrid fiasco. I standby my statement.
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So let's see your plates. Im curious as to how they should look.
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Nice! Dick measuring coming...
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If you look carefully, the areas that are clean are always organized. It's the main reason I go for rizmorphic organized areas
Here are some examples of organized clean plates:
For this one I would stay clear of the stuff on the bottom one at 6 o'clock.

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blindingleaf said: a very clean Penis envy culture

Some species/varieties don't have rizmorphs. Like panaeolus species, but I still aspire for organization:

On the thread I linked. It's a good thread, and teaches exactly what to look for lol, if you read it.
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I read it. You didn't like that I run a torch in my sab and dont get Contams so you try to point out disorganized rhizomorphic growth and pinning on a proven mass-fruiter as a sure indication of bacteriall contamination. Give me a break.
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Just so EVERYONE knows, contamination can hide in clean looking plates. You never TRULY know until you actually are in the cropping phase of cult. Blindingleaf can vouche for this
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I'm just saying in the first quote from kizzle, the best dude around on contams, that if it doesn't hit the ends of the plate, it's probably got something going on in there.
It's also disorganized, extremely thick and thin, some fuzzy protruding growths, etc. idk what you want me to say, a lie? My experience has been that unless it's organized, it generally contaminates early.
I'm glad you got fruits and what not, but I'm not convinced it's clean based off its morphology. At least a few of them. Your reishi plates look fine to me and some of them maz's look decent too, but there's some plates I don't like as well.
Now if that's connected to flaming in the box, idk, but ideally you're going to want no airflow in the box, and if you do so, you get no contaminations. Personally I try to get the best chances I can get.
@az you're absolutely right too. Tho a microscope helps
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Cool....It's getting ready to go into the tub so we'll see. Sorry if I came off as agro, I'm in the middle of a coffee overdose.
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