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topdog82
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What do you use kratom for?
#23741923 - 10/16/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I got kratom for the first time in a long time. Kratom has given me some nice experiences
I use to dose 2-4 grams twice daily. No side effects
I tried doing this type of dosing again. For some reason it burns me out. Makes me foggy, dry/dehydrated, and tired. Maybe my body is sensitive?
Anyways, I ended up taking .75 grams in a capsule this morning before meditation and yoga. I found this to be pretty nice. It feels like an anti-depressant to me. Feels like a cup of tea and half a pill of vicodin. I feel awake, calm and clear
I am gonna resume my normal kratom frequency. 2-3 days a week. twice a day. Except instead of my standard 2-4 gram doses I am gonna stick to 0.5-1.5 grams. I rarely took kratom to get "high". I got a buzz. Its "high" isn't even that great. As a supplement for energy, sleep and general well-being/health, I find it to be perfect
So what about you guys? I think the kratom dosage ranges are approx the following anti-depressant/helps with meditation like a strong coffee buzzy. Feels like a small dose of xanax and some coffee a sort of "high" Foggy sleepy high Once I get past a certain point I just feel like I took opium. Its a slightly different high. but it feels like a weak opiate after that point, I just feel like I mixed alc and opium. Which I have never done. But its how I imagine the combo feels
So where in that range do you take kratom? And for what purpose? Anti-depressant? Energy? to wean off harder stuff? workout?
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23741933 - 10/16/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I take it primarily to get me through my 12 hour shifts a work.
Also a massive workout enhancer.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23741993 - 10/16/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kratom will dehydrate you, especially if you're doing a toss and wash. Need to drink extra water when you're dosing kratom.
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Moonshoe said: I take it primarily to get me through my 12 hour shifts a work.
Also a massive workout enhancer.
so then more for energy?
Also; you said that kratom helped with your depression? I dosed literally 0.75 grams this morning. I physically couldn't think of a negative thought. I even tried. I thought about the most fucked up situations in my life and they just disappeared. Its almost magical lol
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CookieCrumbs said: Kratom will dehydrate you, especially if you're doing a toss and wash. Need to drink extra water when you're dosing kratom.
Ya thats assumed. One should be drinking water, at least a few cups regardless of kratom or not. But ya even with the water, I still get side effects from 2-4 grams
I am almost sure I have liver damage from all my drug use last year. I eat and sleep healthily so I hope with time it will return to normal
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23742216 - 10/16/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pain killing
opiod maintenance
anxiety/depression
and focus.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23742244 - 10/16/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I take krat maybe once every couple weeks. I get high on it, sometimes I mix it with psyches. I smoke a lot of weed already and I don't need to feel like that all the time.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23742251 - 10/16/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well the liver is very good at regenerating itself, so it's possible. I personally probably won't ever be able to drink or take drugs like a normal person again. (which is fine, a price is to be paid for doing too much of anything and my body has told me it's had enough for one lifetime.) But careful dosing with kratom does well with me. Instead of dosing 4 grams at once I'll do 1 or 2 and then redose in an hour or 2. If I dosed more than 3.5 grams at once I would be fucked up in one way or another.
Are you still drinking or using other drugs? That will inhibit any healing your liver might do.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23742284 - 10/16/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sensory processing disorder mostly, and some things which come from that, like anxiety.
I have a hard time slowing my mind, which has its benefits, and pitfalls.
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CookieCrumbs said: Well the liver is very good at regenerating itself, so it's possible. I personally probably won't ever be able to drink or take drugs like a normal person again. (which is fine, a price is to be paid for doing too much of anything and my body has told me it's had enough for one lifetime.) But careful dosing with kratom does well with me. Instead of dosing 4 grams at once I'll do 1 or 2 and then redose in an hour or 2. If I dosed more than 3.5 grams at once I would be fucked up in one way or another.
Are you still drinking or using other drugs? That will inhibit any healing your liver might do.
Quit everything except caffiene I am tapering from heavy caffiene habit. Thats sort of why I am toying with kratom again. I am gonna stay clean this entire year. I may take some Mandy at an upcoming rave. But other than that, just kratom, and psyches. Maybe some white tea. low in caffiene
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: Lucis]
#23742301 - 10/16/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fennario said: Sensory processing disorder mostly, and some things which come from that, like anxiety.
I have a hard time slowing my mind, which has its benefits, and pitfalls.
kratom+meditation=
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23742323 - 10/16/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Back pain reliever + stimulant. Ill take 15 grams in the morning and another 15 in the afternoon
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I use kratom to stop the cravings for other drugs, particularly opiates. I also use it so I don't need to take my benzos every day and avoid becoming dependent on them.
I've only been taking kratom for a short time now, but before kratom I'd be craving drugs non stop. Now I can go days entirely sober with no issues knowing I have kratom that I can take at any time to stop potential cravings.
I'm a sedative type of guy so I use Red Borneo.
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MisterMuscaria said: Back pain reliever + stimulant. Ill take 15 grams in the morning and another 15 in the afternoon
That's a good solid pain management dose.
I have problems with my L3-L5 vertebrae, injured from a fall on the job, I was on oxycontin years ago, but found that stretching at night, and exercise really helped, also staying hydrated helped my discs stay hydrated. Sucks having an injury like that at such a young age, but every now and then I get pains from it, not a lot, but sometimes. Kratom takes those pains away.
I think kratom to be in the same class of medicinal plants like cannabis, meaning it has a number of things it can be useful for.
I hope that people on shroomery, or other drug related sites, make it shine in the proper light, and don't just ramble on about how faded they got, just puts a bad image on something so good.
Perhaps with kratom being in the limelight like it is now, we should make many posts about it's benefits, since these are logged on google or whatever, that way if someone searched kratom they see all the good it can do.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: Lucis]
#23742469 - 10/16/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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15 grams is a lot. I guess diff people diff dosages. beyond 6 grams is not even pleasant
And ya. I am surprised people even use kratom to get high. It just makes me feel nice at best. A good supplement. Thats about it
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23742480 - 10/16/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like you were just dosing too much, I have found 4g in a day is around where I start getting foggy from it.
1~g 2-3x daily is perfect though and gives me little to no negative side effects.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: Lucis]
#23747448 - 10/17/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive used it since 2005 and I have mixed feelings about all the exposure it gets now. Afterall, it almost got made illegal. I liked it as a more underground thing. One time the neighbor kid came over all strung out on amphetamines with a black eye saying he couldnt sleep and asked if I had anything that would hep so I gave him my normal dose, drank a mug myself. He took a few sips, went home, and passed out....but I stayed up for another 6-8 hours, worked on my car and went to bed around 11 pm.
The dosage I take will knock someone who doesnt have a tolerance on their ass but tolerance builds quickly.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: topdog82]
#23747491 - 10/17/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I took 15grms mixed with fruit juice, I might be out like a light too.
I find that capsules take longer to kick in, but the effects are different, not as strong at first, and a prolonged period of relief. If I toss/wash, the krat kicks in quicker, is stronger but for a shorter period of time.
I am about to try to quit kratom, and instead of capsules, think that toss/wash would be the best way for me to lower my dose, then use nootropics for sleep, and to possibly manage anxiety from switching back to a lifestyle without it.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: Lucis]
#23747499 - 10/17/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use it like matcha tea. take a fat tablespoon, put it in very warm water, stir it up and maybe put a teaspoon of lemon juice in, then I drink all the sediment in the bottom. I love the taste. it tastes like artichoke. I feel Id miss out on the taste if I had it in capsules or mixed with fruit juice.
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It's a pain in the ass having to capsule up a days worth.
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Re: What do you use kratom for? [Re: Lucis]
#23747516 - 10/17/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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sitting there capping pills for half an hour gives me more back pain than the pain relief I would get from it
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