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ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin - Laughing Gym?
    #23740645 - 10/15/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hey guys just wondering if this would be a valid laughing gym or deadly neurotoxin look-alike? I found it in a Wisconsin state park close to the lake.

It was growing on dead tree with rusty brown gills hollow stem white on the inside walls of the stem. I have not taken spore print yet as I just got these and
came home, working on it now. there is no noticeable bruising. It smells sweet and fruity almost like an orange.

Do I have a winner?


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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23740784 - 10/15/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is a Gymnopilus maybe Gymnopilus sapineus

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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: donjonson420]
    #23740888 - 10/15/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for your reply

After a couple hours of research I am thinking its Gymnopilus liquiritiae because the spores are a brighter brown or orange. I thought it was Junonius but these have a ring on the stipe and the cap kind of hangs over and into the gills.

I guess my main concern is toxicity. I cant find any resources on look-alikes that can make you sick or kill you. Any info clarifying this would be awesome.

Does anyone know of any look-alikes or resource I can use to compare or test? I am finding a ton of misinformation and mix ups with names of this species. If anyone has any experience with these babies please help.

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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23740923 - 10/15/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah my first thought was "these look like gymnopilus Liquiritiae with a ring." I doubt they're toxic as I'm 99.99%,sure they're gyms but also gyms are not super well documented and there are very few good resources on the genus. Despite that I don't know of any toxic gyms or anything toxic that those could be, I wouldn't consume them without a 100% ID- it's just not worth taking any risk over. Be safe and good luck on finding a more defined ID.

Btw- though they look like gym Liquiritiae, the presence of an anulus is too big to ignore- they're (almost) definitely something else.

Have a good night


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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23741010 - 10/15/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you, good night to you as well.

Yes I agree I am not going for it without further information. But I will keep the prints for further microscopy. 

Does anyone know of a resource that shows you the actual picture of the spore of the psychoactive strains?


Thanks
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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23742561 - 10/16/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have a spore print update

Please excuse the quality of the pics the cam is a bit older.


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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23742915 - 10/16/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So far no specific genus types come up with exactly what I have, but when I search the general genus name of Gymnopilus P.Karst some of the pictures come up with exactly what I have. A few that best reflect what I have on MushroomObserver.Org

Cant find much more...

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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23743113 - 10/16/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Howdy friend! I'm in Southern Wisconsin hunting today too. Hitting the kettle Morraine area! Looks like a good find for you!

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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: sconsinnative]
    #23743150 - 10/16/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, I hope so. Not getting too much thorough feedback for piece of mind lol. But most characteristics point to being consumable.

Good luck hunting man. Enjoy. I have been going every weekend for the last month. It's good times getting lost in nature.

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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23743625 - 10/16/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I agree. I go quite a bit as well. Usually really search after a good rain when I'm not working. I have a page I post to off and on. You're welcome to check it out http://facebook.com/southernwisconsinoutdoors/

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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23744061 - 10/16/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yea nice pics man, Very nice land up your way. Let me know if you find any Gyms so we can compare :lol:

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Re: ID Help Please - Southern Wisconsin [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #23784163 - 10/29/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Going out tomorrow in the Kettle Morraine area again. I'll let you know if I find anything. Getting slim this time of year

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