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Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter?
#23737175 - 10/14/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've decided to take the plunge And finally get myself a good pen... Any suggestions? I'll pay as much as 100$ Hanna has always caught my eye, but they can get pretty pricey and some of their cheaper ones don't look that great. I'll be using it for checking run off n nutrient solutioons. As well as general stuff like water qualities and basic chemistry. Anyone know of a good one?
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23737287 - 10/14/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im interested as well. I always wanted one. I always based ph on my ferts used and gauged it from there but a need for a good one is always a treat. Also on how the plant looked but that cannot be good in thw long run.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: ferrel_human]
#23738197 - 10/14/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you are just doing ph and particularly runoff, grab a middle of the road Hanna pen, 50$ ones are decent for doing what you seek. If you were going to do hydro or need to monitor ec levels obv you would need to spend the mula on the big boy meters. Haven tried the pens but I extensively researched by meter before I purchased. Went with a blue lab truncheon, which came faulty, and ended up returning and swapping for a top end Hanna, which is an encumbrance! Lul all the solutions and calibrating! but when it's dialed in it is teh shits and you really do learn quite quickly and more extensively what your plants want or not. Pretty cool and saves your ass
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: ashfiken]
#23740221 - 10/15/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Right on, thanks for the reply... Does your top shelf Hanna need testing solutions? I had a super shitty pen many many years ago and it required that... It was kind of a pain in the ass. And it was just a garbage meter.
When testing run off from soil, do I need to really filter the hell out of the solutipn to keep the electrode from getting clogged up? I know this is a vauge question .. But do you have any advice for anyone new to testing run off? A few dos and donts? Thanks again for the help bro
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23740253 - 10/15/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anytime man I love this shit. And yes the meter I have requires 2-3 different solutions. That being said my knowledge was that the pens you can buy now come pre calibrated and can be used quite some time with no solution. Not saying you don't need it after extended use Bc you may. As far as the clogging, I wouldn't worry too much about it as long as you rinse with clean water after every use and knock off any debris. The things I've seen all use a glass tip and if you clean em off they stay pretty good. Tips for checking runoff- don't check very first bit to runout wait a few and check it part way thru running out to get a more accurate measurement as the initial fluid may have passed without the ions staying in the soil/media.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: ashfiken]
#23740567 - 10/15/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Beautiful.
Thanks a million (... Parts per million that is like that cheesy pen humor? Its okay if you don't ) !!
Alright I'll do some research tonight. I'm going to go for it. I've wanted one, well one that isn't a pos that is , for like twelve plus years. Cool, it prob won't be that bad with testing liquids. I think it was just the shit pen I had before. I'd be really happy to know when there's a problem with !y soil... Before I start guessing and playing doctor. All weed grow forums I've visited ask 'what the pH' before typically asking anything else regarding someone's question. I'm sure I fucked up a few plants because the pH was off and I had idea. Its Time to up my game.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23740595 - 10/15/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll take the humor anytime, especially when talking plants, I love em! Yeah man it's def worth it to increase your control of your plants and their possible stressors. And yes ph is a big deal when it comes to finding all sorta thangs out. Different plants can only access certain/different nutrients at certain ph levels.. So when a deficiency is apparent and there's no bug or fungus issue, ph is the first thing to check to know if the plants are pulling the right nutrients out of medium. Runoff checking gives you a great "first glance" at what those plants are upto, of course, first you must check what is going in! And the flux of ph will tell you a short story, atleast an outline, of what the plant was able to take up or not. Course going a step further and more detailed would be the ppm count/ec, which is what these pricier meters allow for.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: ashfiken]
#23740789 - 10/15/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looking forward to what you get, I think I could benefit from a mid range pen as recommended above, thanks for the info guys.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: ashfiken]
#23741968 - 10/16/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ashfiken said: I'll take the humor anytime, especially when talking plants, I love em! Yeah man it's def worth it to increase your control of your plants and their possible stressors. And yes ph is a big deal when it comes to finding all sorta thangs out. Different plants can only access certain/different nutrients at certain ph levels.. So when a deficiency is apparent and there's no bug or fungus issue, ph is the first thing to check to know if the plants are pulling the right nutrients out of medium. Runoff checking gives you a great "first glance" at what those plants are upto, of course, first you must check what is going in! And the flux of ph will tell you a short story, atleast an outline, of what the plant was able to take up or not. Course going a step further and more detailed would be the ppm count/ec, which is what these pricier meters allow for.
Cheers
thanks homie I do currently have a TDS pen that's suppose to have the EC option as well... I never used the latter, but I use the TDS all the time for checking the performance of my reverse osmosis water filter and often different water sources (just for fun). I really enjoy getting a glimpse into just how dirty tap water is and of course things like rain, river and creek waters (from camping trips or whatever)... I live very close to the Mississippi river and have been aspiring to check it for sometime... Although I know its Hell's polluted and am kind of scared to see what's through that door. I Also Like to encourage ppl to get a meter of their own and see what the standing of their tap and filtered water truely is... My gf got one for her parents and they checked their tap... The reeading was something like 550ppm! I thought my local reading in new Orleans was tragic at 189-215ppm!
Anyways... Thanks again, and no worries bud (last poster) I'll post my choice shortly. I still haven't made up my mind yet... I'm an OCD but when it comes to selecting my gear.. And honestly I wouldn't have it any other way 
Peace and love y'all
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23742218 - 10/16/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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A highly mineralized water is not necessarily a bad thing. It depends on what the minerals are. Seeing the estimates of 80%-90% of humans don't get enough Mg in their diet, one could strongly argue that a more mineralized water is a good thing.
A pH reading of your runoff water tells you absolutely nothing about the pH of your rhizosphere. Basically a pH pen is a $100 item that tells you a few irrelevant numbers. I file them under the 'If you have too much time and money on your hands' list, go ahead and get one, but they are waste of both.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: El Torcho]
#23742694 - 10/16/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah? Many ppl would argue otherwise. Waste or time and money? I disagree. Such an instrument can be used in many different practices besides testing run off.
And yes... There is mineralized water... And there is heavily polluted water. Big difference. Chlorine, lead, fluoride, arsenic and beyond are not what does the body right. Not sure where you're from, but in my neighborhood, my water is polluted. Most of our pipes are still composed of or at least contaminated with lead. All my drinking water is fortifed with some minerals before its fit for drinking.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23744404 - 10/17/16 03:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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true that a.highly.mineralizes water and therefore relatively high ppms may not be a bad thing and , in fact could be good if it was calcium magnesium and a few others. but id err on lipas side here and say its most likely chlorine and some other nasties if we are talking tap. if you are testing a pristine mineral spring i would see otherwise. also id say these ph pens are not at all a total waste particularly if doing hydro work torcho, although i respect the opinion on if it were soil having slightly less applicability particularly when it comes to rhizo/root zone. yet there is still apt knowledge to be learned with one of these even if testing soil runin/runoff only, especially for the more OCD / meticulous of us! lmao
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: ashfiken]
#23747954 - 10/18/16 05:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey I got a pH meter - didn´t spend anything NEAR the silly money you guys are talking about, though. I think I used it once.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Spanishfly]
#23749946 - 10/18/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ehh... Yeah. That's not really the style I was lookin into. Why only once?
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23751023 - 10/19/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My plants don´t know the pH they are sitting in and they do OK.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Spanishfly]
#23751125 - 10/19/16 04:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spanishfly said: My plants don´t know the pH they are sitting in, and they do OK, even if I don't know the pH
Fixd.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Spanishfly]
#23751146 - 10/19/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hear you man, that's been my philosophy for many years. Although I'm currently having an issue with one of my babies and I'm starting to think its pH lockout. I think I threw in too much stuff in the blend I made up for it. I'm thinking its on the basic side of things... Because its looking like a micronutrient deficiency... And I feed it not too long ago. Maybe its burn. I'm not sure but I want to try and cover all my bases. Esp since its very unlikely that I can replace this plant... At least for a hot minute.
It's too dark to take a pic but here's the issue... Stalled out growth. Light green leaves but only on the top of plant. Short stems between top nodes. Leaf burn on edges, mostly on the edges and tips. It was off to a great start when I got it... Really large dark green leaves with a lot of room in between each leaf set. Too small too clone yet. Its got me stressing big time
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23751219 - 10/19/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have been using the same basic mix for some years now, and have no intention of changing it, and thus no need to fiddle about with its pH.
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Re: Recommendations for an affordable/accurate pH meter? [Re: Spanishfly]
#23751298 - 10/19/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Industrial chemical/plastic plants have excellent testing equipment of all sorts..
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