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Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster
    #23740198 - 10/15/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Doing a new test using my updated T-Tek and Golden oyster.

   

This is 40g of WBS spawn, 14 months old.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23740262 - 10/15/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is testing on used tea. I've uploaded an image of an analysis of raw tea leaves.

Almost as rich as grains, missing just vitamins: C, D and Biotin.
Starch free and trace sugars, energy from other sources.



Also lightly antibacterial.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23741519 - 10/16/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Got results in 12 hours, detached mycelium also growing very strong.
Colour change due to digestion, thick radial outgrowth.

   

Visible variation from the seeds.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23741607 - 10/16/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome someone is doing this. I myself go through heaps of tea and I love the fact that we can use a waste product to grow mushrooms.

Is this tea spawn or do you hope to fruit from it?


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23741649 - 10/16/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I intend to fruit this all going well. But it can be used as spawn.
I have done so several times, works like sawdust spawn.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23741891 - 10/16/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Getting results fast, managed to take surface shots using a focused beam.
Growth is very strong, below is the same spawn on WL Tek, no tea.

   

   

T-Tek vs WL Tek, an obvious winner already.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23742339 - 10/16/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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filyep said:
Awesome someone is doing this. I myself go through heaps of tea and I love the fact that we can use a waste product to grow mushrooms.




Forgot to mention, I am using 28% raw unused cheap tea, comes as tea flour in bags.
If you are going to use used tea, follow the write up and use 40-60%.

Raw will still contain all soluble nutrients and energy.
Which works like adding fertilizer and flour.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23743773 - 10/16/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Would you recommend tea as an additive to sawdust to replace wheat bran?


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23744580 - 10/17/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You know I was thinking that this morning. It certainly works in exactly the same way.
Visibly they grow as strong as each other, only side by side will tell.

Will take some images when I get home from work.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23745651 - 10/17/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is 48 hours on T-Tek, I have a cold draft to sort out.

   

Much stronger growth than previous tests.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23745662 - 10/17/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Who would like to do a side by side comparison, grain flour or bran vs T-Tek?
I've not started with grain products yet, limited experience.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23746681 - 10/17/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'll probably try supplemented wood chips bran vs used tea with Shiitake. Not really what your doing but I have a heap of Shiitake spawn. I've heard Shiitake don't like too much supplementation so it might be better to do it with oysters.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23748994 - 10/18/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok cool, I'd be interested in seeing results, even used tea without enriching.
Out of interest which are you starting with 40% or 60% used tea?


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23749124 - 10/18/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is day 3, sorry for the image quality. Thick growth, very strong.

   

What I thought where inactive seeds, now growing.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23749166 - 10/18/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Side notes so far:

25g tea and more additives was faster, however more tea less additives is stronger.
More tea also means more antibacterial action, which works in two ways.

1: There is no starch in tea, its energy is complex and rich.
2: Chemicals present in tea inhibit bacterial growth.

Oyster's will breakdown everything as energy.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23749796 - 10/18/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think I'll add that much. Then again if I keep the experiments small like your then why not. :smile: Maybe I'll do 0%, 10%, 20%, 40% in 250ml size containers.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23751238 - 10/19/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I do 250ml for test sizes, it can yield too. Else I do 1220ml (1.22L).


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23753986 - 10/20/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I did a few 120ml jars today with woodchips tea vs no tea. Gonna noc up with shiitake tonight.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23755219 - 10/20/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Good luck  :thumbup:


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23758150 - 10/21/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is 6 days, 40g tea. Now I leave it to mature then fruit it.

   

Still not sure which recipe is better.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23758407 - 10/21/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So the result so far is that the write up on using waste tea is very accurate.
Members who can get free used or unused tea can utilize an avenue.

Now the question is, what happens if I add bran too.
Something tells me it might be very strong.

Further tests and fruits soon.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23758872 - 10/21/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Keep up the good work mate. :thumbup:


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23759487 - 10/21/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So I made two test jars myself.

Jar 1:
120ml Eucalyptus woodchips
20ml dried tea.

Jar 2:
120ml Eucalyptus woodchips

Both inoculated with 1 teaspoon of popcorn shiitake spawn.

Incubating at 24c

Not very scientific but it's something.




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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23760010 - 10/22/16 05:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Its a start, and it should give you results to work with.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23760012 - 10/22/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it's what the hobby is all about.

I'm whipping up a straight tea one now, same volume and spawn rate.

Except this one is pasteurised in the microwave.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23760014 - 10/22/16 05:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmm, if your going strait tea, I would keep them in the bags.
Also mold loves hydrated tea, so be careful and clean.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23760016 - 10/22/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So to start with grain, I've chosen cheap grain flour. I will be doing:
1.25g fertilizer, 15g flour, 40g raw tea, 100g paper.

I also have fresh clean spawn to use.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23760019 - 10/22/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well the spawn should hopefully get a hold quickly before the mould can get hold.

Whole tea bags could work but would the mycelium have trouble getting through the bag.

I was thinking of a tek where you could just blend up tea bags whole. The paper why work to hold water and I'm sure oysters would eat it right up.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23760022 - 10/22/16 05:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No the fiber bag will get digested as an energy source.
Was thinking the tea will mulch when cooked.

I use paper pellets as a substrate.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23760035 - 10/22/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I have a feeling the tea might not be able to hold enough moisture and if it does it would be too soggy for the mycelium to colonise.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23760075 - 10/22/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed, hence the suggestion. Stick to adding it to body, like you did before.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23760149 - 10/22/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is day 7, using 40g raw tea. Typical branched oyster growth, colonizing style. Normal time frame for Golden oyster.

           

Current temperature is 20°C, beginning to mature as normal.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23760272 - 10/22/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So I'm sure i've missed something in here that I couldn't find, but you are grinding up the leaves and adding it straight to the mix is that correct, or making tea water and soaking the grains with that included?


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ipoxa]
    #23760339 - 10/22/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I am using vendor spawn, I am removing the tea from the bags, its really cheap and its mostly a flour.
I add it to water, then add some fertilizer for a bit more potency, then add it to a substrate.

You can read everything I have learned in my pocket guide.
Adjust any tek or information to suit your needs.

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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23763410 - 10/23/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is the compost I have just got for casing, using the all natural fruiting tek.
Its 50% peat fiber, details on peat as a carbon source for oysters here.

Already enriched with fertilizer, pH level is 5-6.
A stupidly cheap and very rich casing.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23763487 - 10/23/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Yeah I have a feeling the tea might not be able to hold enough moisture and if it does it would be too soggy for the mycelium to colonise.




A little trick I figured out a while ago to correct the moisture content for any substrate is to add fine (potting grade) vermiculite in small quantities till when the substrate is squeezed only a drop or two of water comes out. Since the vermiculite cant be digested by the mycelium it acts more like a moisture storage tank.

In theory this would help correct the sloppy wet tea. I dont think it would offset the nutrient mass of the substrate either because it is totally inert.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: katbusa]
    #23763505 - 10/23/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Vermiculite vs paper pellets? I get the same results with paper pellets which hold 80% water.
Which is 100g dry paper, 400g water. It has amazing absorbency and holding ability.

Should be greater yield from the paper than the vermiculite.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23764413 - 10/23/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just an idea and a technique I wanted to share in hopes it might help.

I was mainly talking about vermiculite as an additive incase the moisture was a bit off in the main recipe. Adding more paper makes more sense, that didn't even dawn on me.

Vermiculite is my main go to, especially when I work with saw dust and I need to get the water content just right and I want to prevent the sawdust from compacting.

Thought it might be useful for you guys if you're having problems with soggy substrate. Plus it being inert wouldn't throw off your nutrient mixture for testing.

Keep up the good work. Im going to give paper a try here soon.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: katbusa]
    #23764445 - 10/23/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No probs dude, you might still find verm better in some way. Let me know what happens.
I've never used vermiculite, just know its composition nutritionally.

Vermiculite formula: (Mg,Fe+2,Fe+3) 3[(Al,Si)4O10]
Repeating unit: (OH)2-4H2O

See the data here.


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
    #23764767 - 10/23/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I worried about using recycled paper products. There is no way of getting an analyst from the manufacture. I doubt a cat litter manufactures test toxic dyes and glues.

Tea on the other hand is made for human consumption. :wink:


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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
    #23765989 - 10/24/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I worried about using recycled paper products. There is no way of getting an analyst from the manufacture. I doubt a cat litter manufactures test toxic dyes and glues.

Tea on the other hand is made for human consumption. :wink:



I agree, It must be labeled chemical and additive free.

   

Made from newspaper, and organic soy ink.


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    #23766007 - 10/24/16 06:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They must know the source of the paper well then.


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    #23766046 - 10/24/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The source is handle safe, organic ink newspaper. Collected mushed and pelleted.
Nothing added, nothing taken away. 100% environmentally safe, non toxic.


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    #23766976 - 10/24/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is day 1 of the Golden oyster T-Tek test at 20°C, 80% water content.

   

Here is day 9, slowly thickening up, quite normal for Golden oyster.

   

No mold, no metabolites, no evasive growth.


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    #23769304 - 10/25/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is day 10 at 20°C, colonized but it is still maturing.

   

Should I fruit it or wait 4 more days?


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    #23770909 - 10/25/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Look what I found in the supermarket in OZ. The break down at the top looks identical to the one you get. Maybe the same company different name.



Also would it be best to wait for the mycelium to start to pin before fruiting?

That way if you do that with all your experiments it might keep your testing method more consistent.


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    #23772283 - 10/26/16 04:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Look what I found in the supermarket in OZ. The break down at the top looks identical to the one you get. Maybe the same company different name.





Yes thats identical, as you can see no chemicals or additives and its 99% biodegradable.


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Also would it be best to wait for the mycelium to start to pin before fruiting?

That way if you do that with all your experiments it might keep your testing method more consistent.



Good point, however I am now casing and using a different fruiting method.


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    #23772509 - 10/26/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is Golden oyster on T-Tek at 20°C, 80% substrate water content. Now generally safe to take surface images.

           

Tiny bit of bio waste, no obvious mold. The red tint in the middle of image 3 is my camera.


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    #23772521 - 10/26/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Golden oyster: Left, my old WL tek. Right, the new starch free T-Tek.

   

Visibly BE has increased by a large factor.


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    #23782652 - 10/29/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

How I assembled my mini natural fruiting tek.

> Fully colonized cake, block.
> Pasteurized compost.
> Plant pot or tub.

I flipped my cake onto a larger lid, and then flipped again onto kitchen towel.

I Added boiled hot water to my compost, mixed and then left to fully cool.
When cooled, I added 40mm to the base of my fruiting plant pot.

I added the cake, kitchen towel included, gets eaten.
Using a fork I stuffed the sides with compost.

I Added 20mm to the surface, and bagged.

   


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    #23782673 - 10/29/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You can also make a string cradle to lower the cake.
Cotton or twine will be eaten, but not nylon.

Crossed under the kitchen towel.


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    #23782867 - 10/29/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If your species or strain requires 3rd party microorganisms to access nutrients to fruit.

Colonize a cake if possible, follow the above tek with the following changes:

Pasteurize the compost, cool, and inoculate with said culture.
Leave for 'X' weeks for full activation and colonization.

You will need to read up on required conditions.
Once ready use the compost as normal.


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    #23782874 - 10/29/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Who wants to be the first to try and fruit a rare, using the above method?


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    #23796632 - 11/03/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's impossible to read the numbers in the inserted image. Is it possible to upload a higher resolution?
BTW I just started reading your posts and am already a fan. Much kudos on your experiments.
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    #23796725 - 11/03/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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It's impossible to read the numbers in the inserted image. Is it possible to upload a higher resolution?
BTW I just started reading your posts and am already a fan. Much kudos on your experiments.
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