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Ferather
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23758407 - 10/21/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So the result so far is that the write up on using waste tea is very accurate. Members who can get free used or unused tea can utilize an avenue.
Now the question is, what happens if I add bran too. Something tells me it might be very strong.
Further tests and fruits soon.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23758872 - 10/21/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Keep up the good work mate.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
#23759487 - 10/21/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I made two test jars myself.
Jar 1: 120ml Eucalyptus woodchips 20ml dried tea.
Jar 2: 120ml Eucalyptus woodchips
Both inoculated with 1 teaspoon of popcorn shiitake spawn.
Incubating at 24c
Not very scientific but it's something.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
#23760010 - 10/22/16 05:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its a start, and it should give you results to work with.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23760012 - 10/22/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah it's what the hobby is all about.
I'm whipping up a straight tea one now, same volume and spawn rate.
Except this one is pasteurised in the microwave.
Edited by filyep (10/22/16 05:20 AM)
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
#23760014 - 10/22/16 05:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmmm, if your going strait tea, I would keep them in the bags. Also mold loves hydrated tea, so be careful and clean.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23760016 - 10/22/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So to start with grain, I've chosen cheap grain flour. I will be doing: 1.25g fertilizer, 15g flour, 40g raw tea, 100g paper.
I also have fresh clean spawn to use.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23760019 - 10/22/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well the spawn should hopefully get a hold quickly before the mould can get hold.
Whole tea bags could work but would the mycelium have trouble getting through the bag.
I was thinking of a tek where you could just blend up tea bags whole. The paper why work to hold water and I'm sure oysters would eat it right up.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
#23760022 - 10/22/16 05:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No the fiber bag will get digested as an energy source. Was thinking the tea will mulch when cooked.
I use paper pellets as a substrate.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23760035 - 10/22/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I have a feeling the tea might not be able to hold enough moisture and if it does it would be too soggy for the mycelium to colonise.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
#23760075 - 10/22/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agreed, hence the suggestion. Stick to adding it to body, like you did before.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23760149 - 10/22/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here is day 7, using 40g raw tea. Typical branched oyster growth, colonizing style. Normal time frame for Golden oyster.

Current temperature is 20°C, beginning to mature as normal.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23760272 - 10/22/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I'm sure i've missed something in here that I couldn't find, but you are grinding up the leaves and adding it straight to the mix is that correct, or making tea water and soaking the grains with that included?
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ipoxa]
#23760339 - 10/22/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am using vendor spawn, I am removing the tea from the bags, its really cheap and its mostly a flour. I add it to water, then add some fertilizer for a bit more potency, then add it to a substrate.
You can read everything I have learned in my pocket guide. Adjust any tek or information to suit your needs.
The P. Stamets stuff is a bit out-of-date.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23763410 - 10/23/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here is the compost I have just got for casing, using the all natural fruiting tek. Its 50% peat fiber, details on peat as a carbon source for oysters here.
Already enriched with fertilizer, pH level is 5-6. A stupidly cheap and very rich casing.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: filyep]
#23763487 - 10/23/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
filyep said: Yeah I have a feeling the tea might not be able to hold enough moisture and if it does it would be too soggy for the mycelium to colonise.
A little trick I figured out a while ago to correct the moisture content for any substrate is to add fine (potting grade) vermiculite in small quantities till when the substrate is squeezed only a drop or two of water comes out. Since the vermiculite cant be digested by the mycelium it acts more like a moisture storage tank.
In theory this would help correct the sloppy wet tea. I dont think it would offset the nutrient mass of the substrate either because it is totally inert.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: katbusa]
#23763505 - 10/23/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vermiculite vs paper pellets? I get the same results with paper pellets which hold 80% water. Which is 100g dry paper, 400g water. It has amazing absorbency and holding ability.
Should be greater yield from the paper than the vermiculite.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23764413 - 10/23/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just an idea and a technique I wanted to share in hopes it might help.
I was mainly talking about vermiculite as an additive incase the moisture was a bit off in the main recipe. Adding more paper makes more sense, that didn't even dawn on me.
Vermiculite is my main go to, especially when I work with saw dust and I need to get the water content just right and I want to prevent the sawdust from compacting.
Thought it might be useful for you guys if you're having problems with soggy substrate. Plus it being inert wouldn't throw off your nutrient mixture for testing.
Keep up the good work. Im going to give paper a try here soon.
Edited by katbusa (10/23/16 02:49 PM)
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: katbusa]
#23764445 - 10/23/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No probs dude, you might still find verm better in some way. Let me know what happens. I've never used vermiculite, just know its composition nutritionally.
Vermiculite formula: (Mg,Fe+2,Fe+3) 3[(Al,Si)4O10] Repeating unit: (OH)2-4H2O
See the data here.
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Re: Testing the T-Tek on Golden oyster [Re: Ferather]
#23764767 - 10/23/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I worried about using recycled paper products. There is no way of getting an analyst from the manufacture. I doubt a cat litter manufactures test toxic dyes and glues.
Tea on the other hand is made for human consumption.
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