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Timmy Meow



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2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill
#23739182 - 10/15/16 04:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Treasure Coast MS
Substrate: 500g Coir 250g Chicken manure 200g Diatomaceous Earth 250g Vermiculite 4.5l Water
Cased with PH balanced Peat
15 Oct
Tub 1: Tub 2: Tub 3: 
17 Oct
Tub 1: Tub 2: Tub 3: 
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Tub 1: Tub 2: Tub 3: 
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Edited by Timmy Meow (10/21/16 10:16 AM)
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Timmy Meow]
#23739216 - 10/15/16 05:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmm mined if i just follow this a bit. The pictures look a bit off. Why so much chicken poop? It was composted first right? And proper pasteurization done to it?
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: tump]
#23739239 - 10/15/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It was a bit on the dry side when taking the pics, gave it a light mist after. It's getting a lot of FAE. First time doing it in this sort of fruiting chamber. It's really more of an experiment for me to dial in my tubs without polyfill.
Store bought chicken manure, seems quite a bit diluted.
My pasteurization may not be what most regard as proper, but it's never let me down. I mix all the sub together in a tub then add the 4.5l boiling water, give it a mix, finish.
I'm sure you'll be impressed by the results.
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Timmy Meow]
#23739267 - 10/15/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dang two quarts of spawn for a 66? Low ratio.. I'm curious to see this one... Best of luck. Is there a reason you didn't use 6 qts of spawn?
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
#23739292 - 10/15/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroom_Goddess said: Best of luck. Is there a reason you didn't use 6 qts of spawn?
Merci. Was just pleased with the spawn I used and figured it will handle it.
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
#23739294 - 10/15/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The 2 qt is fine. Im more worried it contam sub but each of own. When you mean no polyfil i assume you mean no holes. It's not as set and forget as a nomarl tub but worth it. I say your green house trays pick so i know you'll do well. If you ever get into pasteurization you should try straw cased monotubs with no holes.
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: tump]
#23739305 - 10/15/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know how well I've dialed it in yet as this is the very first time I'm doing it this way, but this is what they look like with the lids lifted up slightly by the handles. There are 5 open holes in each of the two ends of the tub. All other holes are taped up.
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Timmy Meow]
#23739496 - 10/15/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you didn't follow any hole placement teks eh? Are you sure you're advanced enough to keep conditions perfect without following teks?
Also with the lids propped up, and holes open to air, that's a lot of GE, I hope you're a boss mister. Usually people use the imperfect seal of the lid lol
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Mad Season]
#23739656 - 10/15/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: So you didn't follow any hole placement teks eh? Are you sure you're advanced enough to keep conditions perfect without following teks?
Also with the lids propped up, and holes open to air, that's a lot of GE, I hope you're a boss mister. Usually people use the imperfect seal of the lid lol
We'll soon find out wont we
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Mad Season]
#23739664 - 10/15/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those tubs are not really nood friendly they need a pretty stable environment to work good. I use similar tubs

But I'm a closet cultivator. Not cause of kids or parents . Kids are grown parents are dead . I just like things to be nice and tidy and out of sight of random lady friends. Field compasity is very important with that style tub they will dry out fast if your conditions are off. If you mist don't fan it . Us a candle and go around the tub and make sure you don't have any drafts around it .
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: funkyfish77]
#23739686 - 10/15/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think op will be just fine.
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: azur]
#23739710 - 10/15/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Very curious to how this goes.
My uncle raises chickens and uses it in his garden as his only Fertilizer and I swear on my my life he grows potatoes and peppers as large as my skull. Has such huge vegetables (and weed) and says it's all in that chicken poo.
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Moabfighter]
#23739806 - 10/15/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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looks good so far!
how did you prep the chicken manure? did you leech it, or dry it, or just use it straight out of the bag?
if it contams it is probably because of the improper pasteurization, or unleeched manure. ive bought chicken manure to use several times, but never use it because it stinks and is not dry & leeched like my hpoo nuggets. IME the best manure for our purposes doesnt stink
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23739958 - 10/15/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: I think op will be just fine.
Merci Azur, I appreciate your responses.
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funkyfish77 said: I use similar tubs

hmm...
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Moabfighter said: My uncle raises chickens and uses it in his garden as his only Fertilizer...
Chickens as fertilizer
I actually started using the chicken manure after reading so many old threads and seeing RR boast about how beneficial it is, especially as a nitrogen additive when using coir.
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c10h12n2o said:
how did you prep the chicken manure?
Dried the chicken manure in the sun till there wasn't much of an ammonia smell, then simply mixed with the rest of the bulk and 'pasteurized'.
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
#23739968 - 10/15/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroom_Goddess said: Dang two quarts of spawn for a 66? Low ratio.. I'm curious to see this one... Best of luck. Is there a reason you didn't use 6 qts of spawn?
2 should be fine. 6 quarts would be a little overkill IMO
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: ComebackKid]
#23744677 - 10/17/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update of the day
17 Oct
Tub 1: Tub 2: Tub 3:
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Moabfighter
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Timmy Meow]
#23744685 - 10/17/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks good
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Moabfighter]
#23744736 - 10/17/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you will be ok but try a lot less chicken manure next time.
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: cronicr]
#23744876 - 10/17/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Timmy Meow]
#23745701 - 10/17/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looking good my friend!! coming along nicely 
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Timtoshis said:
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c10h12n2o said:
how did you prep the chicken manure?
Dried the chicken manure in the sun till there wasn't much of an ammonia smell, then simply mixed with the rest of the bulk and 'pasteurized'.
smart man. that is a very crucial step when working with the bagged manure products, they almost always smell like ammonia and poop. caused all kinds of problems for me when i first started doing bulk, when i would read "cow or horse manure" and i would go get a bag of "Black Kow" from home depot and pour it in my substrate mix lol... learned a lot from those mistakes... those kinds of products work fine if you prep them correctly, but kinda gotta know what you are looking for. i much prefer field-aged, odorless, dry nuggets of hpoo over every other type of manure i have worked with
cron is right about your ratio as well btw, RR recommends using no more than 5% chicken manure
also, what was your reasoning behind using DE? im just curious, because DE has to be completely dry to be effective against insects. however, it is great at retaining water, and acts as a mild ph buffer
best of luck! cant wait to see your pinsets
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23745812 - 10/17/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: cron is right about your ratio as well btw, RR recommends using no more than 5% chicken manure
also, what was your reasoning behind using DE?
best of luck! cant wait to see your pinsets 
I read about using no more than 5% chicken manure, but when I looked at the chicken manure I got from the store it seemed quite diluted with other debris. At first I was just unsure if he really meant 5% of 100% chicken manure (no additives), so I pushed it with various quantities of what I had in my bulk grows and not once did I see an abundant of mutations nor was there any other noticeable negative effects. So I just stuck with this ratio.
I purchased a 20kg bag of DE locally for around $20. It's purpose was to help control my gnat problem as my greenhouse was outdoors, so the gnats were becoming an issue. I've since changed my growing location, so I have no problem with gnats anymore and don't have much other uses for the DE. Read it helps retain a lot of moisture, so that's the reason I'm now using it in my bulk grows now.
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Timmy Meow]
#23757584 - 10/21/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Didn't have access to the internet the past few days. Harvesting Tub 3 right now.
Update of the day:
19 Oct
Tub 1: Tub 2: Tub 3: 
21 Oct
Tub 1: Tub 2: Tub 3:
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Timmy Meow]
#23757604 - 10/21/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That chicken manure served you well it seems. Beautiful tubs man
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: Timmy Meow]
#23757677 - 10/21/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: ComebackKid]
#23757941 - 10/21/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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beautiful pinsets my friend!! nice job 
looks like you could probably use a bit more FAE though, which would need more misting
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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23757946 - 10/21/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Timmy Meow



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Re: 2 Quarts Spawn to 66 Quart Monotub Log - no polyfill [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23758054 - 10/21/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: beautiful pinsets my friend!! nice job 
looks like you could probably use a bit more FAE though, which would need more misting
Yes, the problem right now is the still air. Making a plan right now for future grows.
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