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Re: Supply, Demand & Morality [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #23771810 - 10/25/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Your basic claim is that what I have referred to as a moral dilemma is not in actual fact a moral dilemma. That's fine. But I think that if we really examine the implications of our societies allocation of resources you would find some ground for calling the example I provided a moral dilemma.

Let's conduct a little thought experiment.

let's imagine that I am standing in front of someone who is dying of AID's. And let's say that I have a miracle cure for AID's in my hand in the form of a liquid that one can drink. And let's say that I tip that liquid down the drain. Is my use of resources i.e.. the miracle cure, justified?

After all it was my private property, so there really isn't a moral dilemma, correct?

I would argue that this does constitute a moral dilemma. So, what is the difference between someone squandering their resources to the detriment of the sick in the above example and the example provided in the OP. Really it's just a matter of proximity. There is also the issue of the actual effectiveness of a cure for AID's which reality could not constitute a miracle cure. But essentially these are both immoral acts.


What do you think?




Wow, you really don't understand what I'm saying but you think you do, and just keep pounding your point.




Basically you don't want the economic system to change. That's what you outlined in your previous post:

I am saying that public health issues should get social backing and therefore an allocation of public funds, like AIDS research, etc. Others, like baldness research, should not BUT that doesn't mean the government should limit the amount of funds invested in that. I say that in the same respect that I say that government shouldn't limit private school funding, but what it SHOULD do is allocate more funds/better manage the funds allocated towards public schools.

As far as I am aware governments already do these things, so you are not in fact asking for any change of the economic system.

So, you either don't believe the moral dilemma I have sited is a meal dilemma, you don't understand what constitutes a moral dilemma (which I don't think is true) or you are don't care if people needlessly suffer (I also don't think this is true).


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Re: Supply, Demand & Morality [Re: blingbling]
    #23771978 - 10/26/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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this thought experiment or charade introduces the idea of waste which is a different moral dilemma.





My argument is that resources spent on research for male pattern baldness is basically wasted resources considering the other applications that these resources could be used for, and that the system of supply and demand allows these resources to be squandered.





The counter-argument here is that without supply-demand interaction, the resources are more likely to remain unexploited.  Example: For much of human history gold has been considered desirable despite having little intrinsic value beyond ornamentation.  In the modern day however, gold has many important uses, especially in electronics.  If not for the frivolous effort of countless civilizations in mining, refining, and hoarding, gold for thousands of years, we might have had to start from zero on the world gold stockpile in the 20th century (19th actually i guess)


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Re: Supply, Demand & Morality [Re: blingbling]
    #23772387 - 10/26/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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blingbling said:
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redgreenvines said:
this thought experiment or charade introduces the idea of waste which is a different moral dilemma.





My argument is that resources spent on research for male pattern baldness is basically wasted resources considering the other applications that these resources could be used for, and that the system of supply and demand allows these resources to be squandered.



of what other system are you thinking


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