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invitro

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Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ?
#23738627 - 10/14/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Growery question maybe but there might be someone here that can help:
I have a plant in late-late bud, the clone died by accident and it has a pretty good smell on it. I really want to save it but re-vegging in late stage is something I have only a little experience with. Any experts out there? I'm thinking 24 hours of light. The plant is 2.5 feet tall, with top buds intact, everything else has been chopped off including branches, so it's a pole with buds. Maybe a cfl.
I'm specifically wondering if more powerful light has beneficial effect.
Other methods of re-vegging? I've heard others just leave the plant out for an extended time after harvest (maybe only during spring?).
Any help is appreciated!
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: invitro]
#23738704 - 10/14/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Total darkness for three days then twenty four hour light till you see new growth light is light only used t5s but any real grow light should work
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: SpaceWaste]
#23739076 - 10/15/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've re vegged a couple of times all I did was turn the lights on for 24/0 and sure enough it started growing again.
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: Muhfreedoms]
#23739254 - 10/15/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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oops double post!
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: Muhfreedoms]
#23739256 - 10/15/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude,all you do is cut back all the buds from the plant,and leave just a little bit of plant material for rejuvenation.
You don't have to give 24/7 darkness,or any of those other non factual tricks to get them to revege.
It's not rocket science,and is actually easier to do than growing a cannabis plant to the flowering stage actually.
All you have to do then is put it under either 24/7 lighting,or anything more than 12/12 once you've cut it back,and within a week or so,you will see new growth.
I took a really late flowering bud off of one of my biggest plants,that was almost finished ,and just stuck it in a humidity dome and misted it daily. Within a week it shot out new growth,and now it's full established clone. And I'm telling you,this was bud almost ready to be smoked too No rooting hormones at all,nor have I ever used them in my life,and all my clones take.
As long as the plant isn't totally dead,even in the latest stages of flowering,clones and can still taken,and the plant can be cut back and reveged man many times.
I have grown out and harvested one single plant three times,and I suspect you could keep on doing it for years,if you wanted to. Not sure if that would cause a decline in potency though.
Anyway,good luck,and don;t overthink it
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: invitro]
#23742727 - 10/16/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can do a tissue culture. If you're familiar with growing mushrooms in a sterile environent this should be right up your alley. Supposedly the genetics of the tissue culture get reset to the original starting point.
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invitro

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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: invitro]
#23806764 - 11/06/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I cut the buds off, and put the plant under 24hrs light. The plant died immediately.
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#23807750 - 11/06/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kactus.brand.g said: Dude,all you do is cut back all the buds from the plant,and leave just a little bit of plant material for rejuvenation.
You don't have to give 24/7 darkness,or any of those other non factual tricks to get them to revege.
It's not rocket science,and is actually easier to do than growing a cannabis plant to the flowering stage actually.
All you have to do then is put it under either 24/7 lighting,or anything more than 12/12 once you've cut it back,and within a week or so,you will see new growth.
I took a really late flowering bud off of one of my biggest plants,that was almost finished ,and just stuck it in a humidity dome and misted it daily. Within a week it shot out new growth,and now it's full established clone. And I'm telling you,this was bud almost ready to be smoked too No rooting hormones at all,nor have I ever used them in my life,and all my clones take.
As long as the plant isn't totally dead,even in the latest stages of flowering,clones and can still taken,and the plant can be cut back and reveged man many times.
I have grown out and harvested one single plant three times,and I suspect you could keep on doing it for years,if you wanted to. Not sure if that would cause a decline in potency though.
Anyway,good luck,and don;t overthink it
Well said good sir! Excellent information
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: theMallacht]
#23807796 - 11/06/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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theMallacht said:
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kactus.brand.g said: Dude,all you do is cut back all the buds from the plant,and leave just a little bit of plant material for rejuvenation.
You don't have to give 24/7 darkness,or any of those other non factual tricks to get them to revege.
It's not rocket science,and is actually easier to do than growing a cannabis plant to the flowering stage actually.
All you have to do then is put it under either 24/7 lighting,or anything more than 12/12 once you've cut it back,and within a week or so,you will see new growth.
I took a really late flowering bud off of one of my biggest plants,that was almost finished ,and just stuck it in a humidity dome and misted it daily. Within a week it shot out new growth,and now it's full established clone. And I'm telling you,this was bud almost ready to be smoked too No rooting hormones at all,nor have I ever used them in my life,and all my clones take.
As long as the plant isn't totally dead,even in the latest stages of flowering,clones and can still taken,and the plant can be cut back and reveged man many times.
I have grown out and harvested one single plant three times,and I suspect you could keep on doing it for years,if you wanted to. Not sure if that would cause a decline in potency though.
Anyway,good luck,and don;t overthink it
Well said good sir! Excellent information 
Thank you sir
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#23808241 - 11/06/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree and disagree.
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Dude,all you do is cut back all the buds from the plant,and leave just a little bit of plant material for rejuvenation.
Honestly, you don't have to remove any bud or leaf to reveg.
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All you have to do then is put it under either 24/7 lighting,or anything more than 12/12 once you've cut it back,and within a week or so,you will see new growth.
Taking a plant all the way to 24/7 could be quite shocking and/or stressful possibly killing said plant. You will also need no less than 16 hrs of light to reveg, some plants will require at least 18 hr days. It generally takes around 3 weeks to reveg some plants could take longer. The new growth starts as single blade leaves, then three blades, and then five and so on.
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I think he just meant that you would remove the bud, because you want the bud, not because you have to in order to make the plant re-veg.
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Look asshole, i just wanted to say that. Thats all from me. Kactus and themallacht are veterans.
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: theMallacht]
#23808303 - 11/06/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I get that, and that's why I didn't say he was wrong. I only opened the doors to the other options. Such as a man looking to monster crop, removing the bud kinda ruins the whole effect and end goal.
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theMallacht said: I think he just meant that you would remove the bud, because you want the bud, not because you have to in order to make the plant re-veg.
Yes I did
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JustAnotherAsshole said: I agree and disagree.
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Dude,all you do is cut back all the buds from the plant,and leave just a little bit of plant material for rejuvenation.
Honestly, you don't have to remove any bud or leaf to reveg.
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All you have to do then is put it under either 24/7 lighting,or anything more than 12/12 once you've cut it back,and within a week or so,you will see new growth.
Taking a plant all the way to 24/7 could be quite shocking and/or stressful possibly killing said plant. You will also need no less than 16 hrs of light to reveg, some plants will require at least 18 hr days. It generally takes around 3 weeks to reveg some plants could take longer. The new growth starts as single blade leaves, then three blades, and then five and so on.
Dude,every single budding plant I have cut back,that I intended on re-veging has done so,and I have never lost a single plant.
I have also grown them under 24/7 lighting 12/12 lighting,and 20/4 lighting,and they still re vegetated no matter what.
I just said to keep it at a longer light schedule just to make sure it does what it''s supposed to,but it's not actually even needed.
Also,none of mine have ever taken three weeks to resume growth,and I notice new shoots protruding after the first week to a week and a half,no longer.
Edited by kactus.brand.g (11/07/16 06:56 AM)
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#23809297 - 11/07/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have also grown them under 24/7 lighting 12/12 lighting,and 20/4 lighting,and they still re vegetated no matter what.
 LMAO I'll call BS when I see it. A plant will not reveg on a 12/12 light cycle. No need for ya to try and spread misinformation.
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I just said to keep it at a longer light schedule just to make sure it does what it''s supposed to,but it's not actually even needed.
See cannabis plant are suppose to veg during long days, or as days get longer and flower on short days, or as days get shorter. So the amount of hours of light does indeed matter.
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Now we are getting somehwere
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: invitro]
#23810106 - 11/07/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not going to try to prove myself and I know cannabis is a long night plant,to trigger flowering
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#23810164 - 11/07/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So what happens to a cannabis plant if you just let it go? Just let it die? Under 12/12. I think its been discussed before but i gotta know. I doubt it ever happens. But in the wilds of china where the mother plant originated its got to eventually die and decay and provide food for the next generation. Am i missing something here?
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: ferrel_human]
#23810786 - 11/07/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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what happens to a cannabis plant if you just let it go? Just let it die? Under 12/12.
Rodelzation, which is a great method in creating hermie seeds.
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There are a LOT of subtleties to growing cannabis, especially around lighting, vegging, flowering. all you guys are cumulatively not seeing the whole picture, of that I'm pretty sure. Theres exceptions to rules that you guys think are hard and fast..
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: invitro]
#23818607 - 11/10/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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invitro said: There are a LOT of subtleties to growing cannabis, especially around lighting, vegging, flowering. all you guys are cumulatively not seeing the whole picture, of that I'm pretty sure. Theres exceptions to rules that you guys think are hard and fast..
And I couldn't have said that better myself
Just because something appears to be set in stone,doesn't always mean that that's it,and that you can't change or alter growth styles/methods,to get different results,that what has always been told to you.
And I don't call other peoples ways of growing bullshit,or call them liars,just because they have grown a plant,or done something that I never have,or is not supposed to be done with it
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#23818784 - 11/10/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Prove me wrong then, either of you. Cannabis will not veg under a 12 on, 12 off light cycle. Even at 13 on, 11 off they still flower. Some even believe they yield better with this setting.
The spreading of misinformation is non sense and I will call it out, and call it for the BS it is. If I hurt feelings along the way so be it.
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Quote:
JustAnotherAsshole said:
 Prove me wrong then, either of you. Cannabis will not veg under a 12 on, 12 off light cycle. Even at 13 on, 11 off they still flower. Some even believe they yield better with this setting.
The spreading of misinformation is non sense and I will call it out, and call it for the BS it is. If I hurt feelings along the way so be it.
Ok,here is the thing on the 12/12.
I took a clone form a dank plant I had growing this season.
It was a tiny bud that had maybe two weeks left to go.
I threw it in my back pack,and actually forgot about it until later on that night.
I then figured what the hell,I'll try anyway,so I cut off a half inch of stem,and let let soak is some water to re-hydrate it.
After that I stuck it in a small pot with a humidity dome and forgot about it.
Well,it never got an even light cycle,and on some days I forgot to turn on the light until late morning.
I noticed new leaf growth in a little over a week,and I kept it in for a week longer under erratic light cycles.
I then didn't feel safe having it indoors anymore,so I potted it up in my Mango trees pot,outdoors,which has clearly been 12/12 since August.
It continued to throw out all kinds of new vegetative shoots ,and got too big,before I decided to just kill it about a week ago.
I actually showed the picture of the plant to ferrel a month or so back,so he can tell you that much is true.
I was keeping it for a mother plant,but I got a grip of Auto seeds to work with.,so I'll try them out next season instead.
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: invitro]
#23819188 - 11/10/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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invitro said: I cut the buds off, and put the plant under 24hrs light. The plant died immediately. 
You have to leave some leaves on to facilitate transpiration and osmotic pressure.
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: El Torcho]
#23819284 - 11/10/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The best way to re-veg is to top the plant and remove the large compact cola buds off the ends of the stems leaving the popcorn buds and fan leaves alone. Next, trim as many of the flowers themselves (calyxs) off the small buds on the branches, while leaving most of the small leaves still attached. Use a very sharp cutting tool like cuticle scissors, a razor blade, or a ceramic paring knife to do this trimming. Take your time and do it right. Give the plant a good misting using a spray bottle filled with plain water with a pinch of Epsom salts added to prevent fungus. Put the plant on 24/0 lighting until new growth appears. Finally give it a dose of diluted balanced fertilizer and veg out as normal.
If done right you end up getting some usable bud and have a really nice clone mother as well. You can do this up until the plant is showing obvious signs it's about to die.
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#23820074 - 11/10/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude never said you couldn't clone a late flowering plant, that isn't even the topic here. And you should note that only twice a year does it hit 12/12 in nature, once in March, and wait for it once in September. And yea I bet it grew all kinds of new leaves to support the transition into flowering. So basically your post has nothing to do with revegging under a 12/12 cycle.
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Re: Re-vegging cannabis plant in late budding stage ? [Re: invitro]
#23825016 - 11/12/16 06:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edited by kactus.brand.g (11/12/16 10:24 AM)
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