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Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill?
    #23737208 - 10/14/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The past few election cycles California has a thing for putting up trash legalization bills. While it feels counter intuitive voting against legalization, this bill feels like a steaming pile of shit.

From my interpretation its set up to make very few rich people money, and taxes go toward law enforcement agencies to continue waging their war on drugs. Im not ok with that. Taxes should enrich the state, not be given to police for more toys to lock people in cages.

Im on the fence though. Whats your take?


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx] * 2
    #23737253 - 10/14/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you're waiting for the perfect bill to come along, marijuana will never be legalized. The "perfect" bill is never going to come along. You'll be waiting your entire life.

Nothing in politics is perfect. Politics is always about choosing the lesser of two evils, in this case choosing taxation over criminalization.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx]
    #23737515 - 10/14/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The police department is part of the state.  Thus by enriching the police department, you are enriching the state. 

The bill provided allows you to grow your own marijuana, which is better than some of the legalization proposals thus far (People in Washington still can't grow, right?).  Isn't that by itself good enough reason to vote for it?


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23737542 - 10/14/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Prop 64 is a pretty sweat deal regardless of how you look at it. https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_64,_Marijuana_Legalization_(2016)


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: falsereality]
    #23737603 - 10/14/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Prop 64 is a pretty sweat deal regardless of how you look at it. https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_64,_Marijuana_Legalization_(2016)



I completely agree. If this gets voted no it'll be another 3 years before another bill you don't like comes along.


This is the best chance we will get for cannabis legalization. When people start making their own wax/hash it'll be dirt cheap


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23737660 - 10/14/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone from Arizona here and know much about our marijuana bill?
The smoke shops here are passing out little pamphlets telling people not to vote for it because it would put them out of business.
Apparently the bill would make it so only places that sell pot could sell pipes and bongs. I don't know if I have a problem with that, though the crackheads are going be shit out of luck finding a place to buy rollies and crackpipes in one stop.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: nooneman]
    #23737701 - 10/14/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If you're waiting for the perfect bill to come along, marijuana will never be legalized. The "perfect" bill is never going to come along. You'll be waiting your entire life.

Nothing in politics is perfect. Politics is always about choosing the lesser of two evils, in this case choosing taxation over criminalization.




I feel you, but our medical system is pretty sweet as is. Honestly im alright with people making money, I just dont want this to fund bullshit like law enforcement and California Highway Patrol. Taxes should go into education, transportation, etc not propping up an agency whose sole purpose is to collect more taxes from citizens (tickets).

The problem with passing a shit bill is they are usually a lot harder to change retroactively once its law. I dont even smoke marijuana, but whats fair is fair.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx]
    #23737708 - 10/14/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm:

Just vote yes.

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$2 million per year to the UC San Diego Center for Medical Cannabis Research to study medical marijuana.
$10 million per year for 11 years for public California universities to research and evaluate the implementation and impact of Proposition 64. Researchers would make policy-change recommendations to the California Legislature and California Governor.
$3 million annually for five years to the Department of the California Highway Patrol for developing protocols to determine whether a vehicle driver is impaired due to marijuana consumption.
$10 million, increasing each year by $10 million until settling at $50 million in 2022, for grants to local health departments and community-based nonprofits supporting "job placement, mental health treatment, substance use disorder treatment, system navigation services, legal services to address barriers to reentry, and linkages to medical care for communities disproportionately affected by past federal and state drug policies."

The remaining revenue would be distributed as follows:

60 percent for youth programs, including drug education, prevention, and treatment.
20 percent to prevent and alleviate environmental damage from illegal marijuana producers.
20 percent for programs designed to reduce driving under the influence of marijuana and a grant program designed to reduce negative impacts on health or safety resulting from the proposition.





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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: falsereality]
    #23737729 - 10/14/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you facepalming? These are legitimate concerns. Do you even live in California?

Putting money into bullshit drug prevention is a law enforcement wet dream. Do you even know what these law enforcement agencies will do with the money? That money will be used to keep fueling the war on drugs.

Not to mention I have many friends who run dispensaries here and they claim the bill will fuck them and every other small grass roots growers.

This bill might be better for the average everyday citizen who wants to smoke a joint on a Friday night, but then again these people aren't hassled in California as it stands now anyway.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx]
    #23737748 - 10/14/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This law will influence drug policy across America, so while I don't live in California I still do care. It's a pretty sensible bill that allocates money responsibly. It's a trade off, some money will be used for things you don't approve of, but on the flip side marijuana will be legal in the most populated state in the US.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx]
    #23737766 - 10/14/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Weed is pretty much legal in CA anyways. I got my med card from the back of a music store, it doesn't get much more legal than that. I did a quick read through of the bill and it seems like the law enforcement money is supposed to go towards punishing people for driving while too high. Seems ok to me


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: falsereality]
    #23737777 - 10/14/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We are going to have to agree to disagree about allocating money responsibly. I dont expect someone not from California to understand the social/political climate here though. Anything worth doing is worth doing right; however, im still on the fence.

Like someone said above, its pretty much already legal.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx] * 1
    #23738230 - 10/14/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I live in california and you're an idiot if you think it's "practically legal". MAYBE practically decriminalized but even that's a stretch.I use Mmj to treat a rare stomach condition, I used to take 7 pharmectials a day to just barely help my medical needs but gave me terrible side effects. Due to how illegal it is there are not many dispensaries in my area and even an hour away in L.A./ the valley there are tons but the cheapest grade A ounce costs anywhere from 200-500$ and I've had to spend 8 thousand$ in the last 2 years.

Right now there's a law in the Antellope Valley (my area) that dispensaries AND deliveries are specifically illegal since the beginning of this year. It outraged everyone . There's still 2 or 3 collectives that deliver despite the laws but it's gotten horrible. My dad and I (who's terminally Ill) have to live like cocaine addicts spending hand over fist for a medication that saved my liver and quality of life. And for my dad it's THE only treatment for his pain related to his terminal disease and he has to spend almost every dollar he has on medical marijuana.

If this is voted yes I and more importantly my father could get 100$ ounces instead of 300$ onunces. So a quarter pound (2 months of meds for me) would cost 400$ instead of 800-1,200$


Now this bill might have flaws in it but we need this for our economy right now, it's proven to introduce an entirely new job market. And Mmj patients that really need medical marijuana won't be poor as shit anymore because cannabis helps their medical condition.


When Oregon+Washington leagalized in the first year it brought in tons of money it's first year and each state since then has been benefited by it. If you think that's good then why not California? And what's specifically bad about this bill?


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23738267 - 10/14/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh. I didn't realize it was hard to get in small cities. I pretty much just stay in the Bay Area unless I'm camping somewhere so it's everywhere here. And I just moved to California 8 months ago from Florida so to me this is weed haven. I'll probably vote to legalize after I read the bill more closely.

I'm sure you already thought about this, but can't you grow some and buy the rest. Or buy cheap weed, like sometimes this place I go to has really good deals on shake or good weed that doesn't look good.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23738310 - 10/14/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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And what's specifically bad about this bill?




Honest question, have you done much reading on the bill? The information is out there, I already talked about the specific reasons I dont like it in this thread. Most Californians in the scene ive talked to dont support it. Growers, dispensary owners, etc. But I live in a big city with hundreds of dispensaries, thousands of delivery services, and its all at your disposal for a $40 recommendation. Thats practically legal in my book.

I realize we could be waiting forever for the right bill though, so im on the fence.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx]
    #23738400 - 10/14/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

as much as I hate cops I've had a lot of friends die in car accidents so I really feel no need to give them a hard time ever, plus I'm kind of biased against poor black neighborhoods too


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Konyap]
    #23738613 - 10/14/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's usually always under some conditions, and although I don't agree with some of those conditions, I think it's a fair deal for the most part..

I'm just not clear on one thing tho, are they going to tax those who grow for personal consumption as well?..

But yea I think alcohol is destroying our communities and I think this bill could changed that drastically.. So I say yes on 64.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx]
    #23738708 - 10/14/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
And what's specifically bad about this bill?




Honest question, have you done much reading on the bill? The information is out there, I already talked about the specific reasons I dont like it in this thread. Most Californians in the scene ive talked to dont support it. Growers, dispensary owners, etc. But I live in a big city with hundreds of dispensaries, thousands of delivery services, and its all at your disposal for a $40 recommendation. Thats practically legal in my book.

I realize we could be waiting forever for the right bill though, so im on the fence.



I can understand that and yeah I did read it, basically my thoughts on it . It adds to alot of standard public services and I think it's a good sign dispensaries who charge 200-300 an oz are scared about the bill. It says it's only going to only be 10$ an Ounce in tax . The medical marijuana committes(didn't know there were any) will be replaced with Just a Marijuana community. If you're in SoCal you know what the job market is like . It's brutal . Think of all the trim jobs and wax production .


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx] * 1
    #23739799 - 10/15/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Imo small growers have been out of the game for a long while.  To get a permitted dispensary you need in my local srea a million plus. Unless you are growing super top shelf you only break even when you factor in the overheads of production.

Im voting yes,  it needs to be done for the entire country.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? *DELETED* [Re: zZZz]
    #23739825 - 10/15/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Sanguin3] * 1
    #23740138 - 10/15/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Giving money to law enforcement is bullshit 100% of the time.  Fuck every branch of law enforcement, those pieces of shit are... well they're pieces of shit.  There's a true American hero, his name was Micah Xavier Johnson.  Another American hero, Ismaaiyl Brinsley.  They knew exactly what law enforcement officials deserve, and it sure as shit wasn't dollars.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Sanguin3]
    #23740178 - 10/15/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Cry about it instead.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Sanguin3]
    #23740360 - 10/15/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm just not clear on one thing tho, are they going to tax those who grow for personal consumption as well?..





I was curious about this too if anyone knows.





Personal consumption...as in those that grow at home for their own use?

I don't believe so, I've skimmed through the text of the prop and don't recall anything stating that personal home grows will be taxed....


...I don't know how they'd even go about taxing such a thing anyways, how would they keep tabs on how many plants and how many ounces every single person is growing at home.






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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: openmind]
    #23740529 - 10/15/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think there's something in the prop about licensing.. I'm sure if that would apply to those who grow for personal use, or is that only for those who want to sell?..


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: zZZz]
    #23740558 - 10/15/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I think there's something in the prop about licensing.. I'm sure if that would apply to those who grow for personal use, or is that only for those who want to sell?..





Taxing something that I grow on my own property/within my residence, for my own consumption, just doesn't make sense to me....That's like being required to have a license and getting slapped with a tax for doing something like brewing up some home brew beer at home. Or being required to have a license and hit with tax for growing your own tobacco at home.



As far as I know....Licensing is only required if you're going to be running a business as a cultivator, distributor, etc....of which there are several different licenses....You don't need a license, and won't be taxed, to grow your "allowed" 6 plants at home.







PERSONAL USE – SECTION 4

POSSESSION: In general, AUMA would make it lawful under both state and local law for adults 21 or over to possess, process, transport, obtain, or give away to other adults no more than one ounce (28.5 grams) of marijuana (AUMA Sec. 11362.1).

The initiative sets inconsistent limits for marijuana concentrates, allowing possession of up to 8 grams in Sec. 11362.1 (a)2 , but penalizing more than 4 grams in Sections 11357(a), (b) and (c) and 11360. This contradiction will have to be resolved by the courts or the legislature.

CULTIVATION: Adults could cultivate up to six plants and possess the marijuana from these plants at their residence for personal use (Sec. 11362.1(3)). No more than six plants per residence. (N.B: this differs from the new limit for medical users under MMRSA, which allows 100 square feet of growing space per patient, with collective gardens of up to 5 patients). All plants and harvested marijuana in excess of one ounce must be (1) kept with the person’s private residence or on its grounds, (2) in a locked apace, and (3) not visible from a public place. (11362.2). Violations of (1) –(3) are punishable as infractions with a maximum $250 fine. Cities and counties may regulate and prohibit cultivation outdoors, but cannot completely prohibit cultivation inside a private residence or accessory structure that is “fully enclosed and secure.” (11362.2(b)).





LICENSE CATEGORIES: The initiative establishes 19 different license categories parallel to those in MMRSA, covering cultivation, manufacturing, testing, distributing, retailing, and distributing. Licenses for adult use facilities are distinct from those for medical facilities issued under MMRSA. (26050)

LARGE CULTIVATORS: A new category of Type 5 “Large” cultivation licenses is created for farms over the MMRSA limit of ½ acre indoors or 1 acre outdoors. No limit is set on the size of Type 5 gardens. No Type 5 licenses are to be issued before Jan 1, 2023. (26061(d)).

MICROBUSINESSES: A new category of Type 12 microbusiness licenses is established for small retailers with farms not exceeding 10,000 sq. ft. ( 26067 (e) 2).

VERTICAL INTEGRATION: Unlike MMRSA, AUMA does not prohibit vertical integration of licenses. In general, a licensee may hold any combination of licenses: cultivator, manufacturer, retailer, distributor and tester. The one exception is type 5 large cultivators, who may not hold distribution or testing licenses (26061(d)). In contrast, MMRSA allows applicants to have at most two different license types, effectively prohibiting direct farm-to-consumer sales (AB 266, B&P Code 19328).

DISTRIBUTORS: Unlike MMRSA, AUMA does not require that cultivators send their product to independent “distributors” (Type 11 licensees). This requirement, modeled on the alcohol industry, is one of the most controversial features of MMRSA, as it interjects a whole, new, costly distribution layer between the grower and distributor. Under AUMA, the only licensees not eligible to distribute for themselves are the new, Type 5 large-scale cultivators.

LICENSE CONDITIONS: Licenses may be denied based on various factors, including restraints on competition or monopoly power, perpetuation of the illegal market, encouraging abuse or diversion, posing a risk of exposure to minors, environmental violations, and excessive concentration in any city or county (26051).





All retail sales, medical and non-medical, are subject to a 15% excise tax in addition to the regular state sales tax, effective Jan 1, 2018.

All marijuana is also subject to a cultivation tax of $9.25/ounce dry-weight for flowers or $2.75 for leaves, effective Jan 1, 2018. Other categories of harvested product are to be taxed at a similar rate based on their relative price to flowers (34012).

Patients with state ID cards would be exempt from the current 7.5+% sales tax, but not the excise or cultivation taxes. (34011)

Cities and counties may impose any taxes they please on facilities cultivating, manufacturing, processing, selling, distributing, providing, storing, or donating marijuana (as is already the case under current law) (34021).







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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: openmind]
    #23740570 - 10/15/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yea seems legit,

What's this about though?..

All marijuana is also subject to a cultivation tax of $9.25/ounce dry-weight for flowers or $2.75 for leaves, effective Jan 1, 2018.

Just can't be too careful these days, politicians are always looking for loop holes in these things, they are usually never exactly as they are written..


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: zZZz]
    #23740593 - 10/15/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

keeps small timers from growing outside i guess


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Konyap]
    #23740670 - 10/15/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I just had sudden urge to go grab an oz of Super Silver Haze and do one shots until i can't hold the pipe anymore.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23741807 - 10/16/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I always hit a ceiling with cannabis where i get more fuzzy and itchy eyes ect but not any higher, a saturation point of you will.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Rooster Cogburn]
    #23741826 - 10/16/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyone from Arizona here and know much about our marijuana bill?
The smoke shops here are passing out little pamphlets telling people not to vote for it because it would put them out of business.
Apparently the bill would make it so only places that sell pot could sell pipes and bongs. I don't know if I have a problem with that, though the crackheads are going be shit out of luck finding a place to buy rollies and crackpipes in one stop.




Yes from what I understand and I work in mmj, each person per household is allowed six plants total and wax and hash will be reserved to people who have medical cards. I'm voting yes. Not a fan of the dispensaries or dealing with the fuckers. Bunch of reagan voters pretending to know weed because they finally realize there is money in it.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Rooster Cogburn]
    #23742020 - 10/16/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyone from Arizona here and know much about our marijuana bill?
The smoke shops here are passing out little pamphlets telling people not to vote for it because it would put them out of business. .





that's what stopped the previous initiatives in california, drug dealers and dope shops didnt want it passed


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23742142 - 10/16/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

And it shows how fucking dumb they are because in the bill it clearly states that glassware will still be sold at smoke shops. I've read the bill. The main people in AZ not wanting to legalize are the dispensaries because they hold the biggest grip of the business right now. The one we supply to is scared shitless because as soon as it gets legalized my boss is going retail with the 30% plus shit we grow. Big market for connoisseur grade bud among smokers, people realize soon the machine trimmed mass production shit is just that shit. B+ at best


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23742560 - 10/16/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, the last bill didnt pass because of drug dealers :facepalm:

Had nothing to do with it being a terrible bill.


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx]
    #23742577 - 10/16/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's different here in California tho, legalization is in favor 9 to 1.. Always has been, always will be..


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: danielx]
    #23742920 - 10/16/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, the last bill didnt pass because of drug dealers :facepalm:

Had nothing to do with it being a terrible bill.





right. they're all terrible bills

what made the last bill so terrible


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: zZZz]
    #23742961 - 10/16/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yea seems legit,

What's this about though?..

All marijuana is also subject to a cultivation tax of $9.25/ounce dry-weight for flowers or $2.75 for leaves, effective Jan 1, 2018.

Just can't be too careful these days, politicians are always looking for loop holes in these things, they are usually never exactly as they are written..






I know, when I first read that I was kinda thinking the same for a minute.

But I'm pretty certain that tax is what will be attached to sales, when buying from an actual legit store/vendor....that tax will not be slapped onto home grows.








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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23742962 - 10/16/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The last bill was terrible because it imposed up to 100$ tax on an eight of weed.

It clearly states in the new bill that the tax will be 10$ per ounce. This bill is good imo


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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23742970 - 10/16/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I always hit a ceiling with cannabis where i get more fuzzy and itchy eyes ect but not any higher, a saturation point of you will.







Sounds like you need to take a dab :wink: :smirk: .





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Re: Any Californians here want to give me their take on prop64 marijuana bill? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23742977 - 10/16/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The last bill was terrible because it imposed up to 100$ tax on an eight of weed.

It clearly states in the new bill that the tax will be 10$ per ounce. This bill is good imo





where's the link to that bill


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