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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23737778 - 10/14/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, it's ok to kill a few creatures here and there as long as you aren't hurting the whole fly population too much. Circle of life
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PatrickKn



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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Lophosaurus] 9
#23738019 - 10/14/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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House flies are the reincarnated spirits of your dead ancestors desperately trying to warn you of the dangers in masturbation. They are also trying to warn you that the number of flies you kill in life is the number of times you reincarnate as a fly after death.
Best to just crush them and go about your day. Ancestors trying to guilt trip us, bunch of buzz kills.
Or... Are we the buzz kills?
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#23738878 - 10/14/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Imagine there is a fly trapped in your house, frantically trying to get out. All this poor, scared fly wants is to be outdoors again living it's life freely but it is trapped in this terrifying, incomprehensible torment that is your home.
Then you come along and see the fly struggling, so you open the window a crack and let it go free. The fly doesn't know you exist. The fly doesn't know you helped it. All the fly knows is that everything is okay now. The fear has passed it can return to nature and enjoy the rest of it's life.
The fly doesn't have a complex enough brain to ask for help. Nor does it have a complex enough brain to thank you for your assistance. It does however know that it no longer has to be scared, that it is now happy.
Suppose that someday you find yourself in a position like the fly. That you're feeling trapped, with no way out. Maybe an unseen hand will help you back to safety, even if you can't understand how or why it helped you.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Dawks]
#23738904 - 10/15/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Would you kill this fly?
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Great Scott] 1
#23738907 - 10/15/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: Would you kill this fly?

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Lucis
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 2
#23738935 - 10/15/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I try not to kill any bug, but sometimes I do without thinking and then feel bad for a bit afterwards, it's just a respect for life type thing for me.
I mean if there were termites destroying a home, I would gas their asses no doubt.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Lucis]
#23738952 - 10/15/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fennario said: I mean if there were Jews destroying my homeland, I would gas their asses no doubt.
Sounds like something Hitler would say. 
Also, I heard he was really empathetic towards animals and hated seeing them get hurt. True story.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Great Scott]
#23738991 - 10/15/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said:
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Fennario said: I mean if there were Jews destroying my homeland, I would gas their asses no doubt.
Sounds like something Hitler would say. 
Also, I heard he was really empathetic towards animals and hated seeing them get hurt. True story.
haha.
Hitler was a vegan.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Lucis]
#23739111 - 10/15/16 03:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The big question is: do WE do what we appear to do, or is it the universe doing it through us? Are we mere puppets or are we like Pinocchio with input of our own?
The universe is ruled supremely by Cause & Effect. What we consider motivation too may be entirely given in by external causes, in fact the entire universe may be the pump behind every single thing that happens.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23739124 - 10/15/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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OhMrJohnson said: Flies would kill us all if they could so no it's not
I lol'd
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Dawks]
#23739145 - 10/15/16 04:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dawks said: Imagine there is a fly trapped in your house, frantically trying to get out. All this poor, scared fly wants is to be outdoors again living it's life freely but it is trapped in this terrifying, incomprehensible torment that is your home.
Then you come along and see the fly struggling, so you open the window a crack and let it go free. The fly doesn't know you exist. The fly doesn't know you helped it. All the fly knows is that everything is okay now. The fear has passed it can return to nature and enjoy the rest of it's life.
The fly doesn't have a complex enough brain to ask for help. Nor does it have a complex enough brain to thank you for your assistance. It does however know that it no longer has to be scared, that it is now happy.
Suppose that someday you find yourself in a position like the fly. That you're feeling trapped, with no way out. Maybe an unseen hand will help you back to safety, even if you can't understand how or why it helped you.
So you are saying not to kill something unless it tries killing you?
But then doesnt that mean we should let animals like tigers or lions eat us?
Im not trying to get eaten alive.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Asante]
#23739146 - 10/15/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: The big question is: do WE do what we appear to do, or is it the universe doing it through us? Are we mere puppets or are we like Pinocchio with input of our own?
The universe is ruled supremely by Cause & Effect. What we consider motivation too may be entirely given in by external causes, in fact the entire universe may be the pump behind every single thing that happens.
I like to think we are puppets with no total control.
Because all there would be left is the higher mind to direct and guide us.
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No. They're fucking flies. It's only a couple steps above committing genocide on all those bacteria you kill every time you wash your hands.
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Asante
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Quote:
Bill_Oreilly said:
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Asante said: The big question is: do WE do what we appear to do, or is it the universe doing it through us? Are we mere puppets or are we like Pinocchio with input of our own?
The universe is ruled supremely by Cause & Effect. What we consider motivation too may be entirely given in by external causes, in fact the entire universe may be the pump behind every single thing that happens.
I like to think we are puppets with no total control.
Because all there would be left is the higher mind to direct and guide us.
Thats what we experience sometimes with psychosis indeed, that we are behind the play wheel of life while our higher-up, the subconscious, our inner big brother, is doing the factual driving.
I think you experienced this too.
The executive decisions are not made by us, we are an intermediate level manager in our minds, the CEO is a few floors up.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Dawks]
#23739215 - 10/15/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dawks said: Imagine there is a fly trapped in your house, frantically trying to get out. All this poor, scared fly wants is to be outdoors again living it's life freely but it is trapped in this terrifying, incomprehensible torment that is your home.
Then you come along and see the fly struggling, so you open the window a crack and let it go free. The fly doesn't know you exist. The fly doesn't know you helped it. All the fly knows is that everything is okay now. The fear has passed it can return to nature and enjoy the rest of it's life.
The fly doesn't have a complex enough brain to ask for help. Nor does it have a complex enough brain to thank you for your assistance. It does however know that it no longer has to be scared, that it is now happy.
Suppose that someday you find yourself in a position like the fly. That you're feeling trapped, with no way out. Maybe an unseen hand will help you back to safety, even if you can't understand how or why it helped you.
You forgot the part where it flew out the window straight into a spiderweb.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Crystal G]
#23739322 - 10/15/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: No. They're fucking flies. It's only a couple steps above committing genocide on all those bacteria you kill every time you wash your hands.
The fuck is wrong with you Crystal
#FliesLivesMatter
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PatrickKn



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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Niffla]
#23739335 - 10/15/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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House flies are not trying to get out. The human home is a fantastic source of clean water and pure sugar. They are desperately trying to get in.
Next time you go camping, take note of how easy it might be to kill a wild fly. Much easier. They have no need of the reflexes needed to avoid smacking hands, just the occasional tongue of a frog. House flies are specialists. Evolved to take the risk of death at human hands for sugar that's practically already digested for them.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: PatrickKn]
#23739342 - 10/15/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is it wrong to rape a fly or are the flies asking for it?
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PatrickKn



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It depends how provocatively they dress.
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Re: Is it "wrong" to kill flies [Re: Niffla]
#23739421 - 10/15/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Niffla said: The fuck is wrong with you Crystal
#FliesLivesMatter
One of my exes would seriously get pissed off at me whenever I killed a bug or a spider in the home. He always insisted on picking it up and putting it outside. He would actually feel EMPATHY for a fucking spider. 
Like "Bro I hate to break it to you, but you should become a vegan, because it's clear that you can't handle animals dying in any way shape or form."
This is exactly why I believe that people should be forced to occasionally slaughter animals themselves. If you can't kill an animal yourself, you have no business eating meat.
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