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Solivagant

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Potency: fresh vs dried
#23736594 - 10/14/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So me and a buddy split this down the middle a while back. I know what dose I think I took, but my scale is untrustworthy to say the least, haha. At the time, I figured it was just due to the fact that I'd never eaten them fresh, but what I thought to be a little under an 8th punched me in the face harder than experiences I've had on 4.5g and up. Anybody care to eyeball the size of the dose?
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Re: Potency: fresh vs dried [Re: Solivagant]
#23736716 - 10/14/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You really cant accurately eyeball a dose of mushrooms i mean you could have a good guess but certainly wont be accurate, youll need new scales basically, did you weigh them originally?
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Re: Potency: fresh vs dried [Re: Solivagant]
#23736721 - 10/14/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Untustworthy scale could still do a better job than me!
Its redundant anyhow as the potency of shrooms varies too much. People who say I ate X amount of shrooms as if it means anything dont really know what they are talking about! Some shrooms can be really potent or really weak.
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Re: Potency: fresh vs dried [Re: wolf8312]
#23736781 - 10/14/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Never weighed purchased or homegrown.
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Re: Potency: fresh vs dried [Re: wolf8312]
#23736799 - 10/14/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psilocybin is fairly unstabile and will start to deteriorate quickly during and after drying. Psilocin is much more stabile and will last for a long time before it deteriorates. When you eat them fresh you benefit from all the active compounds witch have not been deteriorated at all.
It looks like you have about 40g of fresh mushrooms on that kitchen paper, but as someone mentioned before, the potency varies greatly from mushroom to mushroom. One mushroom can be as much as 5X more potent by weight than the next, even if they are from the same flush.
Cubensis can lose a lot of their potency after drying them. But the liberty cap will stay as active a year later as the day you plucked it. It is because of the difference in the Psilocybin/Psilocin levels.
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Re: Potency: fresh vs dried [Re: Mateja]
#23736803 - 10/14/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Psilocybin is fairly unstabile and will start to deteriorate quickly during and after drying. Psilocin is much more stabile and will last for a long time before it deteriorates. When you eat them fresh you benefit from all the active compounds witch have not been deteriorated at all.
It looks like you have about 40g of fresh mushrooms on that kitchen paper, but as someone mentioned before, the potency varies greatly from mushroom to mushroom. One mushroom can be as much as 5X more potent by weight than the next, even if they are from the same flush.
Cubensis can lose a lot of their potency after drying them. But the liberty cap will stay as active a year later as the day you plucked it. It is because of the difference in the Psilocybin/Psilocin levels.
You got that ass backwards dude
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Solivagant

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Re: Potency: fresh vs dried [Re: wolf8312]
#23736855 - 10/14/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I mainly just keep track for shits and giggles--never had an 8th feel the "same" as another 8th potency wise. These must've just been some heavyweights, lol.
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Solivagant

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A new scale is a ways down the list when the money comes in, but I definitely need a new one. And I originally weighed it out as an 8th dry (middle,) and 35g wet give or take (either side.) But hot damn that was a hell of a trip compared to any other "8th" I've had!
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Re: Potency: fresh vs dried [Re: Solivagant]
#23738460 - 10/14/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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IF I had to guess Id say theres between 2-4 grams dry there. Note the wet to dry weight is 1/8 approx. of the original aount IE 1/8oz wet = .4 grams dry 7 Grams = .8 grams dry 1/2 oz wet = 1.75 grams dry 1 OZ = 3.5 grams dry 2 OZ wet=7 grams dry QP wet = 14 grams dry 8oz wet= 1 oz dry 1LB wet = 2 OZ dry 2LBS Wet = QP
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So, years ago now, I got dried mushrooms and had to eat 2 handfulls to trip hard, today I have mushrooms that kick you in the face with one handful, soooo mushrooms and weighing and all that shit is redundant as Cosmos said. It's roughly accurate with dried to say most strains will be close, but if you say '3g of Azurescens' then I'm thinking you're gonna have a hell of an experience.
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Wrap them in a single paper towel and weigh them at a local supermarket!!! Or buy a cheap scale from them that just tells you grams.. that first idea might be terrible
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Solivagant

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Haha, I've gotten away with more blatant shroom-ventures before...
But nah, I'll just wait for the scale
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