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any members with quality gt genetics?
    #23736483 - 10/14/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I know I can source from a sponsor,but genetics aren't necessarily consistent. hoping another member would oblige me some super quality genetics. be happy to reciprocate with compensation


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: locallorax]
    #23736492 - 10/14/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Working with spores is always going to be a crap shoot. Learn agar and isolate or clone if you want consistent quality grows.

Also this is the wrong forum. If you make 7 more Posts you will be able to access the marketplace.


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23736505 - 10/14/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So, say you take a print from a cloned mushroom, put it on agar, and pull from that. still 100% total shit crapshoot genetics? Is the way to get great genetics is to keep taking clones off the best mushroom of your tub, grow again, take that bestushroom, etc etc? I'm clueless


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23736510 - 10/14/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You take a tissue sample to agar


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23736518 - 10/14/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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So, say you take a print from a cloned mushroom, put it on agar, and pull from that. still 100% total shit crapshoot genetics? Is the way to get great genetics is to keep taking clones off the best mushroom of your tub, grow again, take that bestushroom, etc etc? I'm clueless




Yes, crapshoot...you're dealing with the genetic shuffle with spores.  Also, the genetic vitality of the line will eventually diminish if you serially clone that way due.  If you want to keep quality genetics, keep a culture or grain master in the fridge.


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23736520 - 10/14/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Going back to spores is a reset for the most part. Unless you are domesticating wilds, each return to spores is going to bring you right back to random unless you self for too many generations. If you self too much the lineage destabilizes and becomes shit. That however takes a long time to do, like 100's of generations.


The best thing to do is take many clones from different grows and test them all. Then keep the best one.


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23736533 - 10/14/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting side note...Stamets claims something like 7 generations and you have a completely different "strain" due to recombination.


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: locallorax]
    #23736537 - 10/14/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok im going to make this simple for you. 1 no ones going to do that because actives in culture form is illegal and because just about everyone here is self taught.
That being said ill help you in advise form. You can start your spores on agar and inoculate that way but run the risk of bad iso for you kind of grow because some genes do better in cakes vs monotub. So if you really want to get a cheap good set of gene with any cubes is run the gamble of straight spores to grain to bulk. What dies is just that dead so toss it. Fruit it in the way you want it for bigger grow
The pick that fruit and cleanly transfer a core tissue sample to at least three agar plates
Make tranfers and test it out as a sole project. If it works then keep it around. If not toss it and start over again. If nothing else its good practise. Gt is limited strain as they come like b+. If you want a wild one try lizard king or aa+.


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: tump]
    #23736545 - 10/14/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Last few posts have been great information. Much appreciated everyone.


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: locallorax] * 2
    #23736551 - 10/14/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I know I can source from a sponsor,but genetics aren't necessarily consistent. hoping another member would oblige me some super quality genetics. be happy to reciprocate with compensation



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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: tump]
    #23736573 - 10/14/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok im going to make this simple for you. 1 no ones going to do that because actives in culture form is illegal and because just about everyone here is self taught.
That being said ill help you in advise form. You can start your spores on agar and inoculate that way but run the risk of bad iso for you kind of grow because some genes do better in cakes vs monotub. So if you really want to get a cheap good set of gene with any cubes is run the gamble of straight spores to grain to bulk. What dies is just that dead so toss it. Fruit it in the way you want it for bigger grow
The pick that fruit and cleanly transfer a core tissue sample to at least three agar plates
Make tranfers and test it out as a sole project. If it works then keep it around. If not toss it and start over again. If nothing else its good practise. Gt is limited strain as they come like b+. If you want a wild one try lizard king or aa+.




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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23736592 - 10/14/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

thank you for the information. I'm just too material and time poor to perform isolation work. and I'll not post in the wrong forum again


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23736743 - 10/14/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Interesting side note...Stamets claims something like 7 generations and you have a completely different "strain" due to recombination.




I would like to see the orginal quote as you seem to have lost some context in your paraphrase. In 7 generations (spores to fruit to spores) from a wild print you certainly would have a stabilized lineage or variety but it would make little difference with an already stabilized line as most of the hetrozygosity would be already lost. Though most people see the benchmark of 7 generations as being the point needed to ensure stability of a line whether from crossing or wild genetics.


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23736833 - 10/14/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Mycolorado said:
Interesting side note...Stamets claims something like 7 generations and you have a completely different "strain" due to recombination.




I would like to see the orginal quote as you seem to have lost some context in your paraphrase. In 7 generations (spores to fruit to spores) from a wild print you certainly would have a stabilized lineage or variety but it would make little difference with an already stabilized line as most of the hetrozygosity would be already lost. Though most people see the benchmark of 7 generations as being the point needed to ensure stability of a line whether from crossing or wild genetics.




I may have been paraphrasing a paraphrase.


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Re: any members with quality gt genetics? [Re: azur]
    #23736936 - 10/14/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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locallorax said:
I know I can source from a sponsor,but genetics aren't necessarily consistent. hoping another member would oblige me some super quality genetics. be happy to reciprocate with compensation



a/s/l




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